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I have been wishing for a Chris Marker set myself (i've seen very little of his stuff)

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum/

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

its reached easier at http://www.criterionforum.org fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from
www.pimpadelicwonderland.com

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Slacker!

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Didn't I see Casque d'Or on the Criterion rack the other day>

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the Bergman set is worth every penny. happy y'all could get it for relatively cheap (I think I pre-ordered it for ~$190 on Amazon). it's an amazing art object on its own, and while I don't think it's the last gasp of physical media, it would be a fitting and worthy end if that bleak future comes to pass.

I got the Dietrich & von Sternberg set and Berlin Alexanderplatz on BR.

along with others... several others... slightly embarrassed how intoxicated these flash sales make me...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:29 (three months ago) Permalink

oh yeah and the Wenders trilogy & Varda box are great. I thought Wrong Move was stunning, and sits high above the other two imo. Kind of a weird match, it's very different in many respects. reminded me a lot of Antonioni.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:31 (three months ago) Permalink

slightly embarrassed how intoxicated these flash sales make me

I literally whipped up a giant martini last night immediately after ordering the Bergman set, I felt so giddy.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:40 (three months ago) Permalink

I've never seen Wrong Move, and have seen Alice only once, but Kings is a favorite.

Also, this is my first time buying in one of their sales.

nickn, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:41 (three months ago) Permalink

My bandwidth is ~80 Mbps, and still no streaming is as good as a Blu. When I upgraded to a 1080p projector on a 110" screen I really started to notice resolution. I know that streaming will become competitive soon, but we're living in a short window where we can have the best, at a lower cost (if happy to buy used discs); and still scratch the itch to become curators.

Maybe future generations (in loin cloths?) will discover my collection, maybe yours, maybe they'll patch fragmentary damaged physical media from multiple sources, to discover what late-industrial humanity valued.

Also, there's no high-bandwidth streaming in rural areas, where I expect to spend my final decades.

contains pieces the size of a child's esophagus (Sanpaku), Thursday, 7 March 2019 01:21 (three months ago) Permalink

Everyone assumes the blu-ray format is doomed but these boutique labels keep popping up and not going bankrupt tbh.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:25 (three months ago) Permalink

A few minutes into Smiles of a Summer Night and I knew I'd made a good purchase, this is solid gold! Wasn't expecting the set to be so physically enormous.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:22 (three months ago) Permalink

JUNE: War and Peace; Hedwig & The Angry Inch; La vie de Jesus; L'humanite; Swing Time; and an upgrade of A Film Trilogy By Ingmar Bergman.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 March 2019 20:27 (three months ago) Permalink

How often do the Barnes and Noble's sales happen? Their shipping is a little less extortive in Canada compared to the official store.

Simon H., Friday, 15 March 2019 20:39 (three months ago) Permalink

November, usually the whole month; and I think July, but I can't remember if that one is shorter.

Top Gut Doctor: I Beg ILXors To FP This Vegetable (WmC), Friday, 15 March 2019 20:42 (three months ago) Permalink

July one is shorter.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 March 2019 21:26 (three months ago) Permalink

Getting tired of waiting for the Written on the Wind and Taste of Cherry upgrades tbh.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 15 March 2019 21:52 (three months ago) Permalink

maybe all the Kiarostami stuff is coming out in August or later to coincide with touring retros

flappy bird, Friday, 15 March 2019 22:07 (three months ago) Permalink

Cohen puts out Wind Will Carry Us, and if its like the other Cohen Media Group/Film Collection releases, its a bit better on transfer and a bit worse on extras than Criterion. If I had a choice whether I'd prefer Cohen or Criterion to put out the balance of, say, Claire Denis's backcatalogue on Blu-ray, I'd lean Cohen.

Dunning-Kruger Overdrive (Sanpaku), Friday, 15 March 2019 23:59 (three months ago) Permalink

have you seen the Cohen edition of Intolerance? I've had that sitting around for a couple years now, 'never enough time' etc. but I've been thinking about it lately

flappy bird, Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:37 (three months ago) Permalink

Not sure which thread to put this on but just noticed the reveal of the photo of Maurice Chevalier when the old guy picks up the guitar at the beginning of Quai des Orfèvres.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 March 2019 18:25 (three months ago) Permalink

Cluny Brown confirmed in latest newsletter.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:55 (three months ago) Permalink

AT LAST

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:56 (three months ago) Permalink

always read additions as addictions

i finally ebayed the oop third man blu, lol

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:06 (three months ago) Permalink

cluny brown an all-timer for sure; jennifer jones meowing on a couch is as sexy as sexy gets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1VtzDqP7-4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:19 (three months ago) Permalink

Charles Boyer and Peter Lawford's exchanges = A+

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:40 (three months ago) Permalink

it's nice, but second-tier Lubitsch

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah that’s what I’ve always thought

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:33 (two months ago) Permalink

curious about the next Eclipse set

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:41 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

JULY: 1984 (Radford); The Baker's Wife; Klute; Europa Europa, an upgrade of Do The Right Thing; and a reissue of The BRD Trilogy.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 April 2019 22:07 (two months ago) Permalink

So does this stuff all go straight to streaming or...?

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 April 2019 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Not automatically. Some will, some won't. For some they'll get a short-term streaming deal but not a permanent addition to the streaming collection (cf In a Lonely Place, The In-Laws, and numerous others).

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Monday, 15 April 2019 23:17 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

AUGUST: The Koker Trilogy; The Flavor of Green Tea Over Rice; The Inland Sea; and upgrades of Magnificent Obsession and An Angel At My Table.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 21:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Also: The Ozu features a bonus film, What Did The Lady Forget?, that he made in the 30s.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 21:55 (one month ago) Permalink

The Flavor of Green Tea Over Rice is playing here in a couple weeks, I thought this part of the description was hilarious: "This is considered one of Ozu's more active films - for example, there are car rides."

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 23:31 (one month ago) Permalink

not mad at a Magnificent Obsession upgrade, but I'm really loosing my patience waiting on a Written on the Wind blu ray.

methanietanner, Thursday, 16 May 2019 00:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Same. But glad to know that eventually all three of them will be getting an upgrade now.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 01:14 (one month ago) Permalink

has anyone seen The Inland Sea?

flappy bird, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Seen by literally eleven Letterboxd users: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-inland-sea/

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:31 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Check out the latest wacky drawing from @Criterion’s email newsletter. Prince of Tides? pic.twitter.com/YrbZay64j9

— CriterionCast (@CriterionCast) May 30, 2019

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:47 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe it's [Prince] Sign of the Tides?

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

god I hope so

flappy bird, Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Signs are pointing to Babs, sadly.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 May 2019 21:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

SEPTEMBER: Local Hero; Circus; Polyester; Cluny Brown; The Cloud-Capped Star; and a Blu upgrade of Fists In The Pocket.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Polyester comes w/a Odorama© card, BTW.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:53 (one week ago) Permalink

This Criterion cover for POLYESTER is just awesome pic.twitter.com/V0d0AFeVmh

— 🎞️ Grindhouse Database (@GCDB) June 17, 2019

na (NA), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Wow

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Looks like i'm getting a new copy of Polyester then

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:29 (one week ago) Permalink

that's the best

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:40 (one week ago) Permalink

I have a Polyester/Desperate Living set that's gone missing. If I can't find it soon, I may have to get this too.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Killer cover

flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 00:57 (one week ago) Permalink

I hear Local Hero comes with oil stock

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 01:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Polyester is in the running for my favorite CC cover of all time.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:09 (one week ago) Permalink

it's great

other faves: house, repulsion, complete tati. worst: badlands, naked.

adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 09:23 (one week ago) Permalink


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