― Josh, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I do believe that Zac DelaRocha bought into all the stuff he was exhorting, though -- maybe that's why he finally opted out: he couldn't bear the hypocrisy of his actions.
Music-wise, I still think the first record holds up (even if it does sound bizarrely dated now). The 2nd and 3rd discs were basically just re- hashes of the first, anyway.
Apparently, Chris Cornell (ex of Soundgarden) who stepped in to fill Zac's shoes has ALREADY SPLIT. The album they recorded together is still slated for release, but there'll be no tour, as supposedly there is no band anymore.....begging the question: what's the point? Why even release it then?
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jordan, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Billy Dods, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nathalie, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos III, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chris sallis, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Dan Perry, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I used to like 'em when that first 'incediary' (what - not incendiary at all you mean) album came out but when the second one came out and it was a straight re-hash of the first but without the hooks, originality or tunes I 'woke up' sharp. Jesus, the record execs must have been rubbing their hands when Rage came along - it's all too perfect.
Like everyone here has already said, most of their fans wouldn't know their [namedrop your favourite political commentator stroke revolutionary here] from their [insert name which rhymes with aforementioned here so it seems like you know your shit] but more than that, Rage are offensive in that they proliferate ill-informed extremist politic. Dangerous stuff, especially when you're dealing with impressionable, spotty, 'misunderstood' teenies.
Dud - About as revolutionary as a branch of McDonalds opening down your High Street.
― Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
every after = Awwww...this is just boring.
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 26 March 2006 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 26 March 2006 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link
first album holds up the best.
― latebloomer: My name *COCKS SHOTGUN* is Horace! (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 March 2006 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― gorkom geddo (lovebug starski), Sunday, 26 March 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― nathan howell (sccrocker), Thursday, 4 January 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Thursday, 4 January 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 January 2007 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 4 January 2007 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link
So for me (and some of my friends), it was a very influencial record. To bad it really really sucks.
― jon person (jon person), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link
You talk like this at parties, don't you?
I thought RATM had some interesting grooves and riffs, but Zac always spoiled things for me. There seemed to be a conscious decision of "I can't sing OR rap, so I'll split the difference with this spoken-word thing, and make just enough oblique hip-hop references that people refer to me as a rapper".
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link
See, this is a judgment I'm all for.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fuck You I Won't Do My Homework Mom (noodle vague), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― nathan howell (sccrocker), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link
As far as the music, "Evil Empire" has always been my favourite. "The Battle of Los Angeles" has some enjoyable moments, but it sounds like a band that had pretty much run out of new ideas. The highly-regarded first album always sounded a bit awkward to me. The "hip hop" was grafted somewhat artificially on the "rock". You can listen to it and almost hear Tom and Zack fighting about what direction the song should take. On "Evil Empire" they found their sound. It's tighter, and sounds more like RATM than a collage of influences. It was one of my favourite albums of '96, and although I don't play it much anymore, when my iPod randomly plays one of the tracks off of it, I find that they still sound alright.
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 5 January 2007 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link
So they're doing the big European festivals next year then. Oh well.
" RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE TO HEADLINE Rock Am Ring AND Rock Im Park FESTIVALS
Rage Against The Machine are back and have confirmed their headline appearances.
After a longer absence the band will finally be back at Ring & Park, after delivering legendary gigs in 1994, 1996 and the year 2000. More Info coming soon!!
Play Dates: Rock Am Ring - June 6th Rock Im Park - June 7th "
― StanM, Thursday, 6 December 2007 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link
they had some wicked mosh pit riffs
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Several years on, I find myself enjoying "Killing (In The Name Of)" again.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
their s/t was one of the first cds i ever bought.
i actually still like them a fair amount, but i dont think any of their shit is as good as
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― max, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
never a dud single, albums all pretty solid - hard to think of another '90s superstar rock act that has held up as well
― milo z, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i got pepper sprayed at the DNC in 2000. so DUD
― carne asada, Thursday, 6 December 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
not spent much time with the album as a whole, but 'people of the sun' and 'Bulls On Parade' still sound phenomenal. love their first and third LPs too.
― stevie, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry, i meant i hadn't spent much time with 'evil empire', their second.
― stevie, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
evil empire is actually pretty good, it's their most tightly wound and pissed-off sounding album.
― latebloomer, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites. You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites. Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites. You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites. Come on!
Yeah! Come on!
FUCK YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME! FUCK YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!
― Wrinklepaws, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link
as incisive as it is catchy. you go girl!
― latebloomer, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I enjoy humiliating creepy CG Tom Morello in Guitar Hero.
― Lie Bot, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link
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― stephen, Thursday, 6 December 2007 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
dud. Morello's riffs were occasionally catchy but often were extremely boring and unimaginative, Zach's flow stunk, and his voice was annoying.
Content-wise it's nothing I couldn't have gotten from Noam Chomsky
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 7 December 2007 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Killing in the Name of and Bulls on Parade were kinda fun tho
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 7 December 2007 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link
haha you've got a bullet in your fucking head
― \∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh MAN does this group suck. They've ridden the SAME three songs and have made the same album out of them THREE times. And their rich, privileged white fans eat it up, yo. Spare me.
― ilxor, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link
would love to see this rhythm section put to good use
― otm morello (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link
what would that possibly be, though?
― meat of beef (Jordan), Thursday, 26 March 2009 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link
it was a very influencial record. To bad it really really sucks.
pls put this on the reissue sticker (whenever that happens)
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 May 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
someone puts on rage songs at the gym in the morning and like holy shit they were awesome weren't they.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
they have aged really well to my ears. i was not a fan at the time. that kind of thing was not my speed. but god they sound refreshing in a playlist of .. whatever new aggressive trash kids like in 2020.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
i was feeling very "rage against the machine" yesterday, haven't listened to em in years but maybe i should.
― brimstead, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
Renegades is (mostly) extremely fun imo. underrated!
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
Their cover of "Renegades of Funk" is pretty awesome.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link
Renegades of Funk is a great gym song.
I think Renegades contains the only songs I like playing by them. Their hip hop covers - Eric B. & Rakim's "Microphone Fiend", Volume 10's "Pistol Grip Pump", EPMD's "I'm Housin'", but specially Cypress Hill's "How I Could Just Kill a Man" and AB’s “Renegades of Funk - are all fun to listen to imho.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 November 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
^^^gets it
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 5 November 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
I definitely wished that Prophets of Rage had leaned into doing more Cypress and PE stuff in RATM style
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link
Renegades is such a great album
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
Battle of Los Angeles my other fave
Not exactly what we had in mind https://t.co/RydKGCk9RA— Tom Morello (@tmorello) November 7, 2020
― Tim Simms (morrisp), Saturday, 7 November 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
loool
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link