Propagandhi

No really!

It's a recommendation

Sadly, damned again by faint praise.

It's great isn't it Gorge?

They're touring right now AFAIK, my friend went to the Toronto show on Sunday.

Less Talk an all-time favorite

"okay, this song is called 'resisting tyrannical government'... and it's about killing elected officials as a viable option for social change-- well, it's also a critical analysis of it..."

Great band. Weakerthans also great.

Awesome band. I like the old stuff just fine but their last one, Potemkin City Limits, came outta nowhere for me. Really great record.

Thanks to Concrete Blonde and the Northern Pikes for not being punk bands so nobody will know where we stole our riffs from.

one time i was 1q2 i awalkted into the record shop discman aznd i was like proppa gan die i was embarreaseed when he told me it wasnt called like that

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Excellent.But you survived?

Any of you pleasant enough to help an old lady?
Recommendations similar to Propagandhi?

Promise I will reciprocate with recos beyond Crass

I was never an all-the-time Propagandhi fan or anything but what I always liked about them was the fact it was really hard to get a handle on them. They had (have?) this incredibly clean sound that makes everything sound like metal riffs, but no way would you ever mistake them for a metal band. And their lyrics are unbeatably sardonic and self-reflexive/self-qualifying but there is absolutely no question of them not being serious about the stuff they talk about. In both these respects they are a lot like Dead Kennedys, but they don't sound like the Dead Kennedys. The more I type the more I sound like a superfan! But I'm not. I just like some of their tunes and the way they roll generally

DKs -' Moon over marin' was an 'asswuppa'

soz - listening to Discharge. me head's gone

ska sucks.

Embarrassed myself earlier with my delayed Career Suicide thread.

Equally cringy about my Propagandhi thread esp. when some coont damned me with faint praise, faint praise.

I've improved my brain by delving back and buying 'Potemkin City Limits' which was released in 1963.
It's great.
More on the metal tip than 'Today's Empires.....' but still.Excellent.

Listen kids. I'm not a trendy kid anymore. And never was.

I'm hungry for this

fuck religion

band is just really great. every album enjoyable. I would rather be preached at than bored.

This is one band I've always wanted to check out but never have. I have no problem with preachy punk, I fucking love Crass & Conflict etc. I think the thing that put me off with these guys is the similarity with NOFX-ish 90s melodi-core but I know there's more to them than that.

Colonel. Start off with 'Today's Empires...'
It's melodic but not in that shitty way you reference.I'm talking seriously good melodies and playing.The lyrics aren't too bad but they're secondary to me.It's all about the music
To me there's not a duff track on the album. Those tracks that are weaker are elevated by at least one musical section in the song. There's some seriously good hardcore in the mix too

Their questionable name put me off- for years. Stupid me.

I bought 'Potemkin City Limits' second . At first it was too 'metal', but it's a real grower.

Any Propogandhi fans care to reco me some more?

Something is telling me it could be a bridge too far?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4PrnYAHUxQ

i used to love these dues in college and i love them again

best band ever in the history of ever

best band in the history of ever's new record is streaming on facebook (?) (!)

https://www.facebook.com/Propagandhi/app_178091127385

they're playing dc in a few weeks, i'm stoked

new record is very good but i find myself wanting for grounding melodic moments (see "potemkin city limits" and "human(e) meat" from the last record)

i'm listening to potemkin city limits now and its hitting me how much this is like a prog-punk precursor to some of fucked up's more recent stuff. is that a connection people a lot of other people have made?

I don't know Fucked Up but Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got

yeah i hadn't paid a ton of attention to it before, but i'm really digging it right now. the layers of melody and shit. great.

Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got

otm

Nothing Fucked Up's done can touch that record imo

Well I mentioned it cause listening last night I kept thinking of David Comes To Life, particularly all the really gorgeous layers done at such a high energy level.

i guess the reason i wouldn't necessarily make that connection is bc of how much later propagandhi is about straight up thrash metal, which there aren't many traces of in the proggy fucked up stuff (which is still very much about hardcore)

full confession i was p blazed and listening to 'a speculative fiction' when this comparison occurred to me, and i'd been shotgunning the early records for the last year or so til putting PCL on for the first time in years the other night, so i think the contrast was just in search of an anchor.

i think it's a neat connection to make tho! i just had never thought of that before

Starting to think Supporting Caste is every bit as good as Potemkin City Limits. So many amazing riffs and moments.

i like it sliiightly better. think it's their best record honestly even though you know less talk more rock 'til death

Nardwuar just played an 18 year old interview he did with them on his radio show. Should be up for podcast later.

Goddamn, this is some powerful stuff.

New record Victory Lap is out and sounding very promising (not to mention *very* different from Failed States).

"Single moms to the front, we came here to rock!"

Album of the Week and a nice writeup at Stereogum
https://www.stereogum.com/1963996/album-of-the-week-propagandhi-victory-lap/franchises/album-of-the-week/

new album is among their best. love that these guys are still pushing their sound forward e.g. “lower order”

yeah it would feel like a transitional album except that they're always in transition these days towards some never-complete ideal, which fits with the increasingly tortured, conflicted lyrical content

i don’t have a kid but the last song on this record makes me *weep*

it hasn't supplanted "Without Love" as most emotionally bruising Propagandhi song but it's mighty close

also "A Lower Order" is probably their best animal rights song

wild in a catalog that includes "purina hall of fame" and "nailing descartes to the wall" but i agree

After 15 years I saw them live for the first time. They were incredible and I'm gonna stop myself there. Setlist was very similar to this one:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/propagandhi/2017/london-music-hall-london-on-canada-2be3ec7e.html

except with the additions of "Adventures in Zoochosis"(!) and "The Banger's Embrace." I could have used a few more Potemkin/Caste tunes but beyond that it was a pretty inspired set.

man. that setlist is perfect

Jealous. No Chicago tour dates.

my shitty high school hardcore band covered "Fuck the Border" so that was particularly delightful, and of course "Back to the Motor League" is one of the greatest songs ever written and it was great to be reminded

aaand now I'm thinking that Victory Lap might be their best overall, pound for pound. I can't seem to tire of it.

yep

the "what one artist do you like the most that ilm doesn't seem to rate at all" thread made me look this thread up and now I'm excited to check out Victory Lap

potemkin city limits is my favorite

every Prop album is good but PCL really was a brilliant expansion /reinvention, even though I think Caste and Victory Lap best it

https://audioboom.com/posts/7805948-episode-313-todd-kowalski-propagandhi-i-spy

fun chat btwn Damian and Todd from propaganfhi/i-spy. only just started but already worth it for the fun trivia, such as his first punk show being gangrene/goo goo dolls in 1988