Let's find an act that everyone on ILM hates.

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don't know. I suppose "s*rewdriver" would be too obvious?

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

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Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess you wouldn't find anyone who likes them (or Preussion Blue for that matter), but mainly that's for non-musical reasons.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:15 (sixteen years ago) link

This is why i only listen to bobby fischer interviews

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, after the documentary from last year, I doubt many people who saw it hate Prussian Blue, as in the two little girls; I know my distaste for them was transposed fully onto their disgusting mother.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Geir, you said "hate", and hate is a big word. Can anyone here actually hate anyone for the music they produce? It surely must be for non-musical reasons: Voting Tory, being a git, producing OK music but being a total arsehole. I'm sure DAve Matthews is a nice bloke, and so on...

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Il Divo.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link

good point.

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Andre Rieu

mentalist, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

We already did this, and the opposite. It didn't work then and it won't now.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Did we do this? I know the opposite doesn't work, but I believe this has a better chance to work. It must be some adult contemporary act though, as they are the ones that "popists" and "rockists" unite on hating.
"Popists" always part with the kids, and have never had much interest in defending mainstream MOR acts with appeal mainly to housewives in their 50s.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 10:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought the opposite did work, and he was James Brown? Cant find the thread to link to though

Thomas, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I HATE James Brown!

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link

In fact he is probably the one act I hate most of all, because of how he influenced hip-hop and a lot of other non-melodic styles.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:04 (sixteen years ago) link

People like Josh Groban and Il Divo just inspire indifference in me rather than active hate.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Who is Josh Groban?

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Hence the indifference.

Has anyone on ILM ever mounted a cogent defence of Westlife?

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

All I could find on ILM Search was one Michael Wells speaking up for "World Of Our Own" and one Lucy Lurex trying to defend them but I was convinced by neither.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't really hate Westlife not like I hate, say, Kate Nash

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link

God knows where the old thread is, and I think it was "an act which no-one likes" rather than "an act which everyone hates", but I do remember a consensus forming around Westlife and Creed.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Even my mum - who loves Westlife - cannot abide Kate Nash; she told her to calm down when she was hammering away on Jools Antichrist's Pre-Recorded New Year Farthornby Bonanza.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link

There are worse boybands out there than Westlife. That's as good a defence as I can muster. Better than 911. Go Westlife. I wouldn't go as far as to say I liked them, but there's not much there to dislike.

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I seem to remember their version of 'Mandy' did very well on an FT Focus Group.

aldo, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:29 (sixteen years ago) link

FT Focus Group 1963: "Ugh! Horrid Stones! Ugly guitars it is HORRID! More POP like Susan Maughan! Her heartbreak is as valid as Robert Frost's!"

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Westlife are like Boyzone without the harmonies and the slight sense of musicianship. Like a Boyzone who could never have written anything as good as "A Different Drum".

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Eh? You mean the Mike Nesmith song?

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, for a long time Westlife for me was = crummy boyband.

Then I saw a feature where Peter Cushing said their most recent CD (at the time) he liked a lot, and then it hit me. It's music for the old folks. (trying not to sound patro)

I mean, what else is there for them? So basically, any kind of music which isn't meant for me, how can I hate it?

It sort of goes along with upthread where someone said they hate KNash more than WLife. It's because KNash is sort of 'aimed' at you. And because she is there, someone who is better is not getting through, right? Whereas who needs a better westlife (aound here)?

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:35 (sixteen years ago) link

No, she just makes me puke

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost Geir sort of loses me, unless he's saying Boyzone are like the monkees to the westlife's ... what?

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Kate Nash reminds me of Josie Lawrence. Any road...

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link

If Westlife actually talk-sang in their own accents they might be worse than Knash.

blueski, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Geir Hongro: your heart is small and weak. i don't hoot at fake pretentious uptight ya might know the circle of fifths but can't hear a damn idea if its a constant cycle outlining a symbolic numerology untied to your useless fiend for aesthetic jackery if it knocks sub hits to the ribs. your blood runs cold and while i sympathize, you must be some damn failure of an overman. you should hang out my girl would poison you

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link

As it is they are much more boring than Knash so arguably worse on that basis.

blueski, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link

hang on geir, westlife do harmonies as well. also westlife's singer dude not as nasally horrible as ronan keating, which should maybe count for something.

(boyzone song is "a different beat", btw, and it has HORRIBLE lyrics)

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:39 (sixteen years ago) link

If Knash talk-sang in her own accent she would be worse than Knash.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link

If Westlife actually talk-sang in their own accents they might be worse than Knash

Soooooooooooo not true

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link

All boyband songs have horrible lyrics by default, but musically, "A Different Beat" isn't too bad. Plus respect to them for writing about something else than boy-meets-girl for once.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Gately's influence.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never heard of Josh Groban, so I can't claim to hate him.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link

What about Manu Chao?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Then I saw a feature where Peter Cushing said their most recent CD (at the time) he liked a lot, and then it hit me. It's music for the old folks. (trying not to sound patro)

I mean, what else is there for them? So basically, any kind of music which isn't meant for me, how can I hate it?

what else is there for them? only about a million things, past and present, equally bad or slightly better (in the latter category would come 'british light music' such as brian kay plays). hate the sin not the sinner, and unbelievably bad music (which westlife do produce) which is inexplicably successful is pretty hateful. it is very patronising tbh.

Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean asking 'what else is there for them?' is just factually wrong as well as unremittingly bleak.

Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Gately's influence.

"A Different Beat" isn't exactly boy-meets-boy either, but.. :)

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:53 (sixteen years ago) link

not if it isn't a rhetorical question.

Yes, there is lots. But, in the 'current' scheme of things, a lot of stuff is regarded as 'the oldies' i.e. hits of the sixties, or it's niche marketing.

At least WLife are recording 'right now' and so on.

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

What about Manu Chao?

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/GeirH/my_top_50_albums_of_1998

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost
westlife are fantastic judged on their own terms; trying to compare them to ---insert critical/ilx fave here--- is like criticising a banana for not being orangey enough.

Thomas, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't stand Manu Chao's stupid cap, but that's not quite the same thing. His music's OK or at least the first album was until he made the same album over and over.

Westlife were deliberately engineered by Cowell and Louisa Walsh as successors to Boyzone, to the extent that Keating even managed them in the early days. Nice polite boys who won't answer back, and the subsequent bunco booth trick of trying to convince us that they're as important as the Beatles whereas it was marketing and the cheapening of the charts which allowed them to have 97,422 number one hits.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

westlife are fantastic judged on their own terms

w.t.f.

Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link

No, they're shit on their own terms

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link

there's no way you could find an indie band that everyone hates, or a metal band

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Not even Metallica?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Nickelback get a free pass forever for "Rockstar". James Blunt did that one single I quite liked too.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Portishead <<<< Rednex

xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^ Dude's still got "it".

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Not even Metallica?

I trust you're being facetious.

chap, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Mighty Mighty Bosstones?

Eppy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Or we could do eras, like late-period Elton John.

Eppy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

(Will anyone stick up for "Candle in the Wind" or the Lion King soundtrack?)

Eppy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Lion King soundtrack's great!

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Will anyone stick up for st anger?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Hongro.

jim, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

You're thinking of Stavanger.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Coal Chamber?

Gavin in Leeds, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Why is it not okay to hate an artist for making shitty music?

Super Subway Comedian, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Why is it not okay to hate an artist assclown for making shitty music posts?

-- Super Subway Comedian, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:53 (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

^^^ Agree

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

The Frank Lampard Band

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Is that the highest insult around here? Having your post edited so that it sort of kind of sounds like a burn?

Super Subway Comedian, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, the highest insult is probly when somebody says you're worse than Wangmann or something.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Eiffel 65 probably. I hope.

our work is never over, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Rong.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

What, you like them?

our work is never over, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

"Blue"? Hell yeah.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I could be the only one.
But I hate that song.
No.. I am sure someone must agree with me.

our work is never over, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

how about (Chris) Daughtry?

- dude got *zero* votes in the Idolator poll, so i'd say he has a good chance here.

stephen, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

rebecca st. james?

murderdogger, Monday, 4 February 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

CHRIS DAUGHTRY, COME ON PEOPLE

does anyone here like the guy?

stephen, Monday, 4 February 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

No, you finally got me on that one.

moley, Monday, 4 February 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Who is Chris Daughtry?

contenderizer, Monday, 4 February 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

If only Dane Cook would form a band.

Gukbe, Monday, 4 February 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Who is Chris Daughtry?

-- contenderizer, Monday, February 4, 2008 2:28 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q36/jfischer1978/daughtry.jpg

stephen, Monday, 4 February 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Coco Rosie

caek, Monday, 4 February 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I dug Coco Rosie's first record. Never heard the second.

steampig67, Monday, 4 February 2008 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I still love La Maison de Mon Reve, though I'm at least half bummed by everything since. Easy to hate, easy to like.

contenderizer, Monday, 4 February 2008 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

i have never heard of this band btw. imagine if their name was pronounced unexpectedly like "Imajinay Draygoans"

― a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:44 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thots and players (rip van wanko), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

Lukas Graham or Andy Grammer may qualify

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link

I caught the last two minutes of Eemayjeen Draygoons' set at a festival last year and me and my daughter were surprised how good they sounded

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

gtfo Judas, maybe they sounded good because they can afford to

thots and players (rip van wanko), Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

I thought I'd found our unicorn and could finally take some happy respite, but I guess not, the wearisome hunt continues

thots and players (rip van wanko), Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

I don't hate them either.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link

found him

https://s-i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/272604/slide_272604_1939619_free.jpg

frogbs, Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link

hate him but just barely

thots and players (rip van wanko), Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

more apathetic than hateful

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

I've never knowingly heard anything by him. I'm tempted to try for the sake of this thread.

pomenitul, Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

surely nobody on here likes Macklemore?

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link

Just listened to 'Shape of You'. I like it better than some of the songs that made it to ILM's top 10 last year.

pomenitul, Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

Macklemore is jarringly mediocre.

pomenitul, Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

Quite a few metal people seem to really hate Five Finger Death Punch.

The answer for me would always and forever be Bon Jovi.

earlnash, Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

I've only heard Sheeran's guest bits on Taylor Swift albums, but I like those!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 12 April 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link


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