In Praise Of...Shriekback's "Oil and Gold"

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it has that horrible 80's gated-reverb drum sound in spades, but it's still a great great album. Totally essential to my mid-80's college listening. I really love the slow songs on it. Also the lyrics written phonetically. I have it on CD but have been craving the vinyl for a couple of years now. Still looking for that "Hand On My Heart" remix EP as well.

Probably the band's best album, all told.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

This is one of the greatest albums ever recorded.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Sleeve you live in Portland don't you? God bless you. I'm in Seattle.

I am not Ted Nugent (Bimble...), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you Dan Perry!

I am not Ted Nugent (Bimble...), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Eugene, actually. But I lived in Indiana when I fell in love with this album.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm now and always have been a big fan of Shriekback. Oil and Gold, as good as it is, comes in a distant second to Care though.

"This Big Hush" is definitely one of the best 3 or 4 songs they ever recorded however.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan OTMFM, "Nemesis" and "Malaria" were my faves but it's all gravy - "Care" is kinda monochromatic but Oil and Gold is one great tune after another

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

weird, i grew up in portland, and this was one of my middle school faves. still absolutely adore "coelecanth," i remember playing conch shell on one of my crappy high school four-tracked new wave compositions in the vain attempt to ape shriekback's effect...

i returned to it recently and was a bit nonplussed by some of the production and some of the boisterousness of the songwriting, but "this big hush" remains amazing.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

ah ha.

i knew Dan would beat me to this thread ..

classic album. simple. as.

did anyone get the latest album - some pretty decent stuff on it,

several tracks reminded me of the mad stuff on Oil and Gold.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I was big on these guys -- bought all their releases but only managed to see them once (and they were damn good) -- was in western canada at the time... I found Care Jam Science had more impact on me personally, but I suspect that more about the context of whatever else I was listening to as well... I think Jam Science was rife with Linn drum machine bits as well (either programmed or triggered) Either way, a bit dated in terms of production, but overall I think they stand the test of time fairly well. Maybe Care was a little more "monochromatic" as mr. sherburne above puts forward as i think Oil & Gold was more song oriented, whereas Care was more textural... I may be splitting hairs tho...

Bass-man (bassguy), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Donut B to thread dammit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i have semi-official live album up in the archive, part of which formed the b-sides to Nemesis i think.
this thread going to make me get all dirty tomorrow and dig it out.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the new one on my iPod right now! I think it has more in common with Big Night Music than Oil and Gold and suffers because it doesn't do those tricks as well but it's still miles better than Go Bang!.

"The Only Thing That Shines" was the only song I ever played in front of my parents that the expressly forbade me to ever play for them again.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link


on the whole, i agree

.. but there are some lyrics/chants/styles during (arse feck damn - have to check) load the boat, bonehead that are very nemesis like methinks ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm... I find them both more "Running On The Rocks"/"Sticky Jazz"-ish but I see where you're coming from.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

definitely Sticky Jazz is used again - one keyboard part is identical ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

C4rl M4rsh was one of my lecturers at Lew1sh4m C0ll3g3 when I did my Sound Engineering thing! What a nice chap - used to drop his kids off at school and then speed-walk to work.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Baseballs Of Death
Episode #082

Air Date: 19 Feb 1988 (NBC)
Director: Bill Duke (!!!)
Writer: Peter Lance

Episode Summary
Crockett & Tubbs suspect a Chilean police chief in a double murder

Guest Cast
Tony Plana
Oliver Platt
Michael DesBarres (!!!)
Mark Metcalf
Lisa Marie (!!!)

Additional Cast
Duane Huston, Jr.
Frank DeVito III
Katarina Etcheverry
Kevin Quigley
Kim St. Leon
Larry Litt
Lester Kerstetter
Rafael Lima
Steve Geng
Tracy Roberts

Featured Music
Gene Loves Jezebel, Twenty Killer Hurts
M/A/R/R/S, Pump Up The Volume
Shriekback, Running On The Rocks
Big Pig, I Can't Break Away

Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Baseballs Of Death

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Knock Knock...Who's There?
Episode #065

Air Date: 27 Mar 1987 (NBC)
Director: Tony Wharmby
Teleplay and Story: Michael Duggan & Dick Wolf

Episode Summary
Crockett & Tubbs investigate drug busts ruined by phony federal agents, who appear on scene and disappear with all the evidence

Guest Cast
Elizabeth Ashley
Jimmie Ray Weeks
Samm-Art Williams
Ian McShane
Martin Ferrero

Additional Cast
James Dybas
Robert Small
Stefen Laurantz
Tim Bice
Tony Vila, Jr.

Featured Music
Bryan Adams, Heat Of The Night
Dire Straits, Ride Across The River
Shriekback, Underwaterboys
Grace Jones, The Fashion Show
Belkis Concepcion y Sus Chicas, La Vecina

Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

A Michael Mann moment

Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Baseballs Of Death

Indeed

Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Nemisis (YouTube)

Great, great song from the peak moment of 12" remix rock. No one has mentioned "Hammerheads", which works nearly as well as goosestep pop. I saw them at a suburban Elks lodge in PA around 1986, so if Nemisis was a hit, it still wasn't exactly mainstream. They opened and closed the set with it, and were pretty charming throughout.

bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

The Miami Vice shit has got to stop, you guys are making me crack up.

I am not Ted Nugent (Bimble...), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

what's wrong with big 80s gated drums?

that video is eerily similar to nine inch nails' "closer".

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i too am roffling at baseballs of death.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

that video is eerily similar to nine inch nails' "closer".

Everything NIN did was not-so-eerily similar to industrial-tribal-dance stuff done five years before. I've never figured out what made his take on it so palatable to the shopping mall.

bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Christ I hate NIN.

I am not Ted Nugent (Bimble...), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm only now beginning to be able to listen to stuff I quite enjoyed '85-'90. NIN made it all seem so stupid. I can finally divorce "Head Like a Hole" and its bald reconfiguring of Holy Money-period Swans from the original. Which was very original.

bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

what's wrong with big 80s gated drums?

busted. what I should have said was "overused". "horrible" was overkill, based on stuff I really hate from that era that used the sound, not this excellent album. I do think the songs suffer a bit from the prevalence of said effect. also, as discussed in some other thread I can't recall now, it dates the album to a certain time period, which I have no problem with but does place it in a certain category of memory that makes it difficult for me to truly hear it anew on repeated listens. hope that makes sense.

I always really liked the 12" mix of "Fish Below The Ice" as well. came with that cool embossed cover.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

NIN, at the time, sounded sort of Jim Foetus-lite without the humour. My fave Shriekback was Care, followed by Tench. But Oil and Gold was a nice return to form.

rattusnorvegicus (ratty!!), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw them in concert in the eighties and enjoyed it a lot but I can't really listen to this music anymore. it's too long ago

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never heard this album. I think the only Shriekback I've heard (besides "My Spine is the Bassline" and "All Lined Up") is "here comes my hand:clap"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:08 (seventeen years ago) link

what i never understand is when album covers change for US/UK markets - best eample being Devo - Are We Not Men ..

how crap is the UK cover in comparison to the USA cover ?

back to shriekback - the image above is garish and rather unpleasant .. i much prefer the uk cover :

http://www.shriekback.com/do_oilandgold_files/oilandgold_euro.jpg

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link

TRACER GO BUY THIS ALBUM NOW IT IS AWESOME

(wow "Fish Below The Ice"!)

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

UK cover is crappy record label "let's get the band on the sleeve" garbage! US cover is platonic form of this excellent album! Big Night Music a huge disappointment in the wake of this mightiness ok!

"Faded Flowers" is just such a killer song, this album is unbelievable, we are all old

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s2727.jpg


tape version

A1 Nemesis
A2 Only Thing That Shines
A3 Health And Knowledge And Wealth And Power
A4 Hammerheads
A5 Coelocanth
B1 Malaria
B2 Everything That Rises Must Converge
B3 Fish Below The Ice
B4 This Big Hush
B5 Faded Flowers

It was a John Peel session in 1985 that introduced Shriekback to me as a 15 year old.

RTE 2 DJ Dave Fanning loved this album at the time

i knew in 1985 that this was a landmark album, it has a unique charm and character that still remains 21 years later

alexinnyc:

http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2006/01/please_stand_by.html
"Oil & Gold by Shriekback is an undervalued masterpiece that no music collection should be without."

many ilxor folks born in the early 1970s or late 60s love this album


Poetry in motion: Faded Flowers


This is the sound of poisons
the sickness no one knows
No one is crying for us this time
Our shapes are blurring under miracles of snow
Weave a circle round him three times
You have to plan your moves at these times
Our hearts are breaking
One more song to go

Chorus
These eyes are blind
This is a pure thing
These hands I kiss
Tragic as anything
These eyes are blind
This is a pure thing
All splash and hiss
Beyond my measuring

Only the anacrucis
the main event remains
Shameful and naked, out there in the
great cold outdoors
We have to learn these things again
Bathe in this incandescent glow
the leap to something I don't know
There is no doubt upon us when
the greasy men come back again

Chorus
These eyes are blind
This is a pure thing
These hands I kiss
Tragic as anything
These eyes are blind
This is a pure thing
All splash and hiss
Beyond my measuring
These faded flowers
Precious as memory
A veil of cloud
Correct as energy
We had some good machines
But they don't work no more
I loved you once
Don't love you anymore

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus Hans Zimmer on Fairlight

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

omg "Faded Flowers"!!!!!!!!!!!

In high school, my history class was looking for short instrumentals to use as credits music for a film project we were doing. I made my group use "Coelocanth".

(Martian, I know you're a human database but are you sure you don't have the A and B sides of that tape confused?)

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

sourced from Discogs

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link

CD and tape running order different

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my friends had the tape and I am about 99.99999% certain that discogs.com has the sides mixed up.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

it was a quick cut n paste job from discogs, anyway those are the tracks on the album

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i love it all. up to and including big night music. big night music was one of the first CDs i owned. i haven't heard it in years! and now i'm in the mood to hear pretty little things.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

We had some good machines
But they don't work no more
I loved you once
Don't love you anymore

this is one of my favorite lyrics of the whole damn decade

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, there are a couple of songs on Go Bang! that weren't completely embarrassing but I can't remember them right now because I only listened to the album 3 times before it was stolen from me and those three listens were enough to convince me that everything on the album sounded like "Shark Walk".

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

this is one of my favorite lyrics of the whole damn decade

agreed. a girlfriend of mine once made me a beautiful post-breakup card with those words on it.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

I'm using a friend's cassette-only car while house-sitting and found Oil & Gold for $1.99 at a record store. It sounds better than my 20+-year-old CD version. What a great fucking record. The background singing is strange, and I love all the anthropologist-gone-native lyrics (see also P. Gabriel's "The Rhythm of the Heat" and most of Remain in Light).

Anyway, this is fantastic. This is what other people must hear when they listen to Radiohead but that I never reached with them.

The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, wait, I guess this thread is more up to date.

The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

we had some good machines
but they don't work no more
I loved you once
don't love you any more

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

:)

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

You've heard the whole album, right? "Fish Below The Ice", "This Big Hush", "The Only Thing That Shines", "Faded Flowers", "Malaria" and "Everything That Rises Must Converge" are all as good as "Nemesis" (a few of them are BETTER :-0)

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

djp dropping the truth bomb.

mark e, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Dan I feel like we've had this conversation before and I listened to some but not all. I will change that and report back.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

well I just sent you all the tracks on the album via Spotify so

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://open.spotify.com/album/3iwEAHs9FeqHAivVxxfrf0 btw

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

YAY!!!!!

omg

I still have no idea how to use spotify properly. Not that I've really tried but . . . OK, brb.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

My first thought is that there may be a little too much slap bass for my liking in some of the other songs. I will push on.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

Or maybe that's not what it is but there's something. Hmmm.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

wait until you hit "This Big Hush"

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

These guys are allowed to use slap bass. There was a meeting about it.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

CONVERGE CONVERGE CONVERGE

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmmm.

The Only Thing That Shines is very nice.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

The Only Thing That Shines is PRIMO languishing in one's bed music.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

while killing yrself

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

x-post - lol totally

It's pretty good at my desk on a dreary post-vacation day music too tbh.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah it's been Shriekback weather in NYC.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to this last night, I noticed how that "call in the airstrike" line sticks out (in a neat way) because everything up to that point is primitive priests/cannibals/elixirs/etc., and then--airstrike!.

The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

I was deep into the "Swamp Thing" comic at the time "Oil & Gold" came out and "Nemesis" seemed to fit right into the priests/cannibals/Heaven/Hell vibe of the storyline.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Some of these were pretty good but I'm sticking to my guns and to "Nemesis" for that matter.

TY for sending those, Dan!

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

no one ever said to give up "Nemesis"! that would be crazy talk

DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

I just mean as my favorite. :)

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

I am totally team "This Big Hush"/"The Only Thing That Shines"

although at one point or another every song on here has been my favorite

DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

loved it then, love it now, but it was hard trying to explain to 30 y/o coworker that nemesis was/is "danceable." :(

if you hipster on your fixie tonight, dont forget, wear black. amen. (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

although at one point or another every song on here has been my favorite

Co-sign. One of those mixes of "Fish Below The Ice" rivals "Nemesis" for my favorite these days.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

was just gonna come back and give some love to Fish Below The Ice, that 12" is fantastic and the album version is pleasingly different.

sleeve, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

This is totally one of those albums that I'm going to re-buy because I am crazy for ever getting rid of it in the first place. And if they do a deluxe of Big Night Music, I'm a get that too!

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

One of my all-time favorite albums. Life without it is unthinkable.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

I LOVE YOU BEST BUT IT'S ALL A MESS

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link

lyrics sites are suggesting it's "when it's all a mess" but I had this album on tape and had to go w/what I heard

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link

gotta admit i slept on this @ the time of release but once again...ty ilm :)

chief content officer (m coleman), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Ok, so I just did some quick A/Bing of the new deluxe version of "Oil And Gold" with the original, as well as the bonus tracks. My conclusions:

- The new version of the album is a bit 'hotter', i.e. compressed and loud, but otherwise sounds good. Nothing revelatory, mind you.
- Of the bonus tracks, the only rare item is "Fish Below The Ice (Dance mix)" which has never been on CD before. The extended version of "Nemesis", the one with the "Apocalypse Now" sample, was on a Richard Blade compilation and the live tracks were on a fanclub CDR so they're nice to have here. All the other O&G-era tracks have been on Shriekback compilations.
- Why did they include "Lined Up" and "My Spine"? And "Lined Up" is CLEARLY from vinyl! Wtf?!

All in all, a nice expansion of the album, but nothing that should make you run out and upgrade your copy.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

any advise in sleevenotes re jam science reissue ?

cos that would be the one for me ..

mark e, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

Why did they include "Lined Up"

'Cos it rules so hard! Dave Allen absolutely on fire here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-R4XKuI7rA&feature=related

Vast Halo, Sunday, 11 September 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link

No argument there but it's not from the "Oil & Gold" period!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

guess its being included on this reissue as the track was dropped onto an extra 12" with the 12" of 'below the ice' (oh the days when labels gave away free 7"/12" singles - the double pack !) that came out during O&G campaign.
embossed cover as well - hold the cover at an angle, and you can see some secret fish

mark e, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/Shriekback-Fish-Below-The-Ice/release/535819

mark e, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

The backing vocals/shrieks on Nemesis are possessed. Redonk. Incredible song.

john. a resident of chicago., Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

I really liked Big Night Music too -- no big reissue of that yet eh?

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

BNM : a perfect album.
i love it.
very different to the earlier material, yet still, very much in line with the shriekback story.
would like to think if there is a reissue, then this could be a digitally sourced remaster/reissue.

mark e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

They never really put a foot wrong until go bang and even then they made up for it in short order with the v underrated Sacred City

There is nothing I love more than the shriek vibe

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

They never really put a foot wrong until go bang

this. otm.

mark e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

The extended version of "Nemesis", the one with the "Apocalypse Now" sample,

This makes so much sense that they would sample this, since Oil & Gold pretty much feels like sailing up the river to find Col. Kurtz.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Good essay on "Nemesis" here:

http://marchvladness.com/#/round2-siouxsievsshriekback/

... (Eazy), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

Huh, thanks for the link, that was an interesting read.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link

that was unexpectedly excellent! also i can confirm that in minnesota too, c.1985, i never heard the term 'goth' and 'batcaver' was the closest equivalent i heard at the time

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link

"Death rock" was what I heard in Massachusetts, but with "goth" spreading around 1986.

bendy, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 11:16 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

PRIESTS AND CANNIBALS
PREHISTORIC ANIMALS

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

EVERYBODY HAPPY AS THE DEAD COME HOME

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link


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