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theres some talk in the grime/dubstep thread i think

pretty good album, sounds like it should soundtrack Blade Runner or something

it has a similar vibe to classic Tricky albums too

splates (splates), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I looked at that thread but decided against posting there because of the same troll who ruined the Scott Walker/Drift thread.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I've said most of my thoughts already - I listened to tracks of it 45 times in the week it came out according to my last.fm page. The thing that gets me is that the guy doesn't use a sequencer. It's all made using Soundforge which is v. impressive and also maybe explains the really organic sound to it.

As I said before the only thing I don't like is the track with the rap on - the only thing I've really liked that Spaceape has done was the cover (of sorts) of Sign 'O' The Times he did on an earlier Hyperdub EP.

If I was running any kind of electronic label right now I would be commissioning remixes from this guy. In fact... why not Relevee (Burial Mix)? :)

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Agree that the voice on Spaceape deflates the overall tension somewhat. The strength of the album is its dark corners, its underheard or misheard whispers in the shadows of knives and prayer.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only listened to it twice in full, but I think the album as a whole doesn't quite live up to its best tracks - i wish the whole thing had abandoned virtual-reality-divas moaning in anguish all over it, but it's only a couple of times and very fleeting! I still like some of the instrumental tracks though, the overwraught atmospherics remind me heavily of the best, most gothic bits of DJ Shadow's The Private Press (regardless of how verboten such a comparison might be for 'ardkore continuists).

The production is awesome yeah. Although again there's a distinction b/w the tracks with great, fluid rhythms and those with more run-o'-the-millish dubstep and halfstep beats. And the Spaceape track is definitely the weakest.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The best time I find to listen to it is late at night, not entirely awake (Chris Morris' Blue Jam worked on the same principle), so the sounds drift into and disturb one's head.

Tried this Sunday night, awoke deeply disturbed, switched to the radio and it was "Gotta See Jane" by R Dean Taylor. "Windscreen wipers splishing, splashing..." It seemed strangely apt.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

is kode9 of hyperdub going to enter this album for the Mercury Music Prize?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man, i didn't realise The Fall's "Gotta See Jane" was a cover.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Marcello- total agreement on this one./ However I got a beating for this by Boy Child on the dubstep thread (that's floating about here) cos apparently it represents the worst aspects of hermeticism amongst a certain strain of dance music fan. Hmm.

ANYWAY: Have you heard the "Original Garage" mix of "U Hurt Me"? Its only on one mix (available here...http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_blackdownsoundboy_archive.html#114529091176863831) dunno if it'll be released later, but its basically a Balearic-pop version...

IMHO: Spaceape track works well (it IS distinct to the rest as it has a live vocalist rather than distressed samples)but it has a tightly wound minimalist funk in its slightly out-of-time beats (especially when the hi hats come in) which is really compelling...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I like "Southern Comfort" and "Broken Home" off the South London Boroughs EP. Are those on the album?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

another album where I was really excited up until the release day, and then, a shrug. I will have to check it out.

It was nice, and unexpected, to read your thoughts on The Kiki mix Marcello.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep, Southern Comfort and Broken Home are both on there.

Glad you liked the Boogybites piece...I also have things to say about the Luciano mix (Sci Fi Hi Fi Vol 2) when time allows.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

carlin does luciano? count me excited.

i needed to get one listen through my system to forget all the garbage written for it (hauntology = another excuse for nonsensical flowery prose). after that, this is brilliant. the space ape track is noticeably weaker than everything else he has released.

natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

this is really good!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

For the ignorant -- Burial is the album name or artist name or both or...?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=21299

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Sweet clarity. I like the cover.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

You can tell that Ned still doesn't read music blogs ;-)

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Burial info / links:
http://www.rawsugar.com/links/djmartian/burial
[via the superb RawSugar search interface]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually I think "hauntology" sorta fits, although I don't think the concept needed to exist in order for people to recognise that the samples are used in a deliberately ghostly manner.

It's the whole "elegy for Omni Trio" bizniz that I don't get - if anything this is (at its best) a cross b/w early dubstep and the more musical/emotional techstep a la the first Dom & Roland album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

pot, kettle

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

just funnin' y'all

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

can i just say the new SCUBA 12" is well nice

grapple (grapple), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

pot, kettle

Hooray! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Rhythm & Pole Macro Dub Ladyland of Hyper Modern Culture

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

lol

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

my hands lingered over both this and dubstep allstars 3 this weekend, but i chose superlongevity 4 instead. i kinda want to hear it if only to laugh at all the "OMNI TRIO OF DUBSTEP...TIP!!" nonsense that's floating around. then again vahid says it sounds like urban tribe, so maybe i'll end up loving it. also, i think i am predisposed to anything that gets the full on hyperbolic dissensian treatment these days.

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

more like deluzional, amirite?

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link

predisposed to pass it over?

I think Paul Autonomic's (great) mix might be all the Dubstep I really need this month to listen to at home. Also, I just don't think I'm in the mood for any more gloom & despair at this precise moment.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i was listening to this with headphones on the way to the store tonight...its perfect night-time music.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

I think this is the cruellest comment I've seen Ned make yet.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Did Boxcutter get a thread and is this at all comparable to his album?

hector (hector), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The Boxcutter album was streaming online for a while, it was more like technically well-done & clean, slightly orientalist (by way of Photek maybe) bassy IDM in the autechre-electro style.

It was ok, but not much melody or anything else gripping for me, I couldn't make it through the whole thing.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

a review from http://www.failme.net/

First thing that has to be stated is that this isn't a straight up dubstep album. It can't be, there's far too many clever rhythmic and

melodic twists and turns to keep it held down by something as trivial as genre or style. He takes dubstep's distinctive motif's (warping b-lines, downward drums, silent gaps) and furnishes incredibly layered pieces of futurist funk.

The eastern sunrise opener of 'Tauhid' might be weighted down with swathes of sub. But, like the rest of the album, there's a light footprint to it all. Even the murky, out-of-focus echo of 'Skuff'd' seems to have a spring in its step. Whilst bass-heads will find solace in darker moments like the magnificent 'Brood'. The rest of us will find this a seasonally apt piece of accomplished electronic music.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"First thing that has to be stated is that this isn't a straight up dubstep album. It can't be, there's far too many clever rhythmic and melodic twists and turns to keep it held down by something as trivial as genre or style."

I agree that the album ain't straight-up dubstep (although it basically is in parts - the weakest parts ha) but the second half of this statement is ridiculoid.

The beats at their best are better than most current dubstep but not all (and generally not as good as first-wave Horspower/El-B etc. for the sake of an easy comparison) - the focus here is really the texturological side of tings, the heaviness of the synths and samples which gives the music a physicality not in the sense of groove, but in the sense of it feeling physically tangible, like you're gonna get damp if you listen to the tracks with rain sounds.

Still think it's an amazing EP masquerading as a decent album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

At it's best it very handily inspires a lot of purple prose (see immediately above) which i think is reason alone to at least like it, and will probably propel it to quite a bit of crossover critical (if not commercial) success.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim F you know that review is for the Boxcutter album? I didn't make it clear sorry(!)... not sure if that's what you're referring to there, seems like it.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah that explains it. I was astonished that someone would say that about the Burial album. Still, I doubt the Boxcutter album transcends genre!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of hyperbolic, this is from the latest bleep newsletter: "Its everything that Goldie´s Timeless ought to have been." (quoting k-punk)

that comment pretty much makes me want to avoid this album even though i am intrigued. i am very resistant to this premature canonization stuff. was "timeless" critically reviled on it's release? i recall reading a few recent posts here that tear it apart pretty well, but "ought to have been"?

breakfast pants (disco stu), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

If I liked Witchman several eons ago, will I like this? Are there any points of comparison? I have never heard dubstep, as far as I know.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Possibly. The album it reminds me most of in vibe is a Guy Called Gerald's Black Secret Technology - in particular the lo-fi original version. Same vibe, different beats.

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Timeless had rave reviews at the time of release. It still sounds great.

Once Blogger is back up and running, I will deliver a more persuasive argument for you purchasing the Burial album.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't understand why he would even mention tricky. one is shiny & lazer sharp & the other is murky, decayed, *buried". it's like slagging off superpitcher record for not being a basic channel record i.e. they sound completely different.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

eek

i don't understand why he would even mention tricky.
i don't understand why he would even mention Goldie.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link


marcello - every time i look at CoM now it's formatted so the text runs way off the page. is that my fault (seetings?) or yours?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

seetings settings! jeez

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i tried to listen to the samples somewhere, but i imagine its not something that would lend itself to that. whats a good track to download?

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

try you hurt me or gutted

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

jed_ I get that too, I think it's the text in the Scott Walker review that breaks the page layout (I'm on 1024 x 786 on a smallish monitor, Firefox, XP, etc).

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Every time I listen to this guy I press play, promptly forget about it, and realize I’m still listening 15 minutes later

calstars, Saturday, 8 January 2022 00:56 (two years ago) link

Really enjoyed this new one. Ran it several times through. As calstars said - you try to listen actively and it takes you away so quickly.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Sunday, 9 January 2022 00:00 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

there's some really harsh, unpleasant frequencies on this, and it doesn't do enough otherwise

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 18:02 (two years ago) link

digital release of 2 Burial-Four Tet collaboration tracks (Nova from 2012, Moth from 2009 - originally vinyl only)

https://fourtet.bandcamp.com/album/nova-moth

StanM, Monday, 14 February 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link

okay, that's fun.

get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

(new to me)

get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

I've warmed up a bit to "Chemz" and "Dolphins," but I will go to my grave not understanding why Antidawn was not hailed as a major statement upon release. Even here, there didn't seem to be much enthusiasm for a record that is to me a really fascinating pivot from one of the most innovative artists of the past twenty years. Maybe everyone was secretly hoping for a return to form, ie just repeating Untrue but less good?

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

Antidawn is what my niece and nephew call my wife, but hey

Mark G, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

untrue isn't even his peak though, kindred through to rival dealer is much much better

i don't think antidawn was that much of a pivot though, he'd been putting out similar ambient stuff occasionally for a while, going back to "subtemple" and "young death"/"nightmarket"

ufo, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

That's true, but committing himself so completely to that vibe was rather unexpected, no? And I actually agree about Untrue, I just assume that's the consensus pick. The early singles will always be my favorite Burial shit, along with the self titled LP

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

from 2016 onwards his output has been kinda all over the place so going further with a style he'd already spent a while exploring wasn't really a big surprise, him putting out something album length was though

ufo, Friday, 12 August 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

Been hammering Rival Dealer recently - never not sent into a different world when the "saw myself crying" bit rolls in on "Come Down to Us"

bain4z, Friday, 12 August 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

i still think about dog latin's "foster care advert" remark and i lol. but i love that shit

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 12 August 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

The early singles will always be my favorite Burial shit, along with the self titled LP

I agree! I'm not sure why most people go for Untrue over the debut but there you go

paolo, Sunday, 14 August 2022 09:51 (one year ago) link

Antidawn was a bit of a let down for me I gotta say. Committing himself to that vibe over an album length release was a bit of a surprise but it's not like it came completely from nowhere, as has already been pointed out.

paolo, Sunday, 14 August 2022 09:53 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

New EP out of nowhere, more like his older work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPvtn81LHgg

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 October 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

as if today wasn't stacked enough lol

ufo, Thursday, 20 October 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

omg

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 20 October 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

The first track, “Hospital Chapel” (the title itself is almost too painfully evocative if you’ve ever lost a loved one in a hospital), is a slow ambient track that I can see people not connecting to - it takes a long time to get going - but it is great

Dan S, Friday, 21 October 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

i don't think this is "more like his older work", it's more ambient stuff

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

high-frequency chimes, ominous low-end synths and percussion, vinyl crackles, cuts and buzzes, beatific vocal samples, ghostly sound effects, and a mournful dream state

Dan S, Friday, 21 October 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

^^^

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 21 October 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

great ambient stuff.

StanM, Friday, 21 October 2022 05:17 (one year ago) link

yeah this is great, he's really perfected that form

corrs unplugged, Friday, 21 October 2022 06:25 (one year ago) link

I like this a lot more than Antidawn.

StanM, Friday, 21 October 2022 07:24 (one year ago) link

snap crackle pop

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 21 October 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link

Sucks that the vinyl isn't available till late January but I'm pre-ordering anyway

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 21 October 2022 12:32 (one year ago) link

Ambient medley Burial is nice and all but bring back beat-based Burial, let's be real.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 21 October 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

https://burial.bandcamp.com/track/unknown-summer

StanM, Friday, 21 July 2023 04:43 (eight months ago) link

Lovely as always. The Kode 9 song is a belter too.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:22 (eight months ago) link

five months pass...

pic.twitter.com/bA6LVFCRMd

— XL RECORDINGS (@XLRECORDINGS) January 1, 2024

ufo, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:23 (three months ago) link

https://questionmarqdj.bandcamp.com/track/distant-lights-quest-onmarq-bootleg-burial

I really enjoy quest​?​onmarq's bootleg remixes of the classic material, I just wish this was longer and faster to fit in with my current mix.

pattern loader, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 10:20 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

the last three minutes of "Boy Sent From Above"..... jfc

Murgatroid, Saturday, 20 January 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link

"boy sent from above" is the best thing he's done in a decade

ufo, Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:30 (two months ago) link

co-sign. very good.

(other side is not bad)

elsewhere: great way to tease new music in the streaming era. all those unauthorized fan uploads on youtube had to have been expected by xl; subvert everything.

she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Sunday, 21 January 2024 00:09 (two months ago) link

revisiting his past year or so of tunes because of this and i have to say how much i've come to like 'unknown summer.' it's such a subtle slow burning joy of a track+ufo i have to challenge your assertion that it doesn't at least compete with 'boy sent from above' in that category.

(let us also not forget the thom yorke collabs, but i digress; 'boy sent from above' a very significant tune)

further, the few stray non-hyperdub tracks from the past few years -'temple sleeper', 'pre dawn'+'indoors'- are all pretty neat in retrospect of this new material for xl.

hi. my name is austin+i ♡ burial.

she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Sunday, 21 January 2024 00:49 (two months ago) link

Definitely my favorite Burial in a while, and I say that as a staunch fan and apologist for ambient Burial and the very underrated Antidawn EP. I liked Chemz / Dolphinz and Streetlands, too, though not as much.

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 21 January 2024 01:35 (two months ago) link

what happened here? did he have a good day or something?

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:42 (two months ago) link

love it obvs. thanks B for the new display name

default damager (lukas), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:43 (two months ago) link

I mean he has the perfect career, doesn't have to tour or do interviews, still makes a lot of money from records (and syncs), everyone respects him, I sure hope he's happy now.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:46 (two months ago) link

relistening to the new tunes again and guys this question comes from a place of pure respect-

anyway, does burial make musical fan fiction?

she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 01:57 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

you guys like the other side but i really dig this dreamfear!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wooh1L8c-Q

scott seward, Saturday, 10 February 2024 18:31 (two months ago) link

so cool.

scott seward, Saturday, 10 February 2024 18:31 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

South London Burroughs getting another reissue, at last. The fact that it's a "20th anniversary" release makes me feel ancient.

https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/south-london-boroughs

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 12:32 (two weeks ago) link

err, "Boroughs"

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 12:33 (two weeks ago) link

Is he doing a performance in London, did I read that?

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:37 (two weeks ago) link

Spotify told me that was the case but think it's the metal band with the same name

nxd, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:56 (two weeks ago) link

Could be some good crossover fans though

Reminds me of the time my mate accidentally saw the play Titus Andronicus

nxd, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:57 (two weeks ago) link

actual lol at your friend, thank you for that

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:09 (two weeks ago) link


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