Franz Ferdinand totally sucks...

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@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

shut up

the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

*handbags*

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

What do they look like?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

excellent, zithead.

LiquidTide (LiquidTide), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:26 (fifteen years ago) link

rock!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess i'm just not used to ILMers so openly deluding themselves.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:33 (fifteen years ago) link

lick our collective anal sphincter

the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a sad, sad day

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

do the Strokes ever do anything other than play eighth notes?

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

who cares?

aleksandr supertramp (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link

well, the thing is, a couple tracks sound ok, but christ I can't listen to a whole album of that 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 over and over again. I think the Ramones actually had a bit more variety. And a better singer.

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I've only heard "Darts of Pleasure", and yes...there is undeniably a Strokesesque feel to it, but they come across as a bit more ambitious and imaginative than Julian and his louche, hirsute pals (and the vocalist enunciates better). Nice chunky bass plonking on that track, as well. And the final bit in German (???) is a nice touch too.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 24 January 2004 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess i'm just not used to ILMers so openly deluding themselves.

Are you sure you've been hanging out here very much then, roger? (and i include myself in the set labelled "deluding themselves")

jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 24 January 2004 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

What an astute observation.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

What do they look like?

http://www.chachacha.co.uk/images/franzferdinand-paul.jpg

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

The Thrills, then.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

blah blah gratuitous Strokes-bashing blah blah roger adultery being a pedant blah blah nate further understands how jess turned out the way he did

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I will say one thing: if Franz Ferdinand getting to number threee isn't the most obvious buy-in in musical history, then I don't know what is.

And, no, The Music don't count.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought FF were pretty great on TotP last nite.

Like Alex in NYC, I think they are a lot more imaginative than most of The Next Strokes types, in fact, I suspect they are simply milking that particular fashion (the structure of the song seems quite explicit about this kind of opportunism). 'Darts of Pleasure' made me think they might simply be the next stage of nurock heritage strip mining - simply moving the MO on from CBGBs to Postcard and The Fall. But the new record, pretty uniquely in new British guitar pop, promises something witty and mischievous and even sexy.

Didn't Alex used to be in The Karelia? They weren't very good, but had almost Cowardian perversity about them, which hopefully will start to show up in FF even more.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

they're playing a secret gig at the chateau tonight.

and i think the members of FF in scatter have now left scatter. uncomfirmed.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I said it in another FF thread -- I saw them in Brooklyn the other night and they kicked ass. Their drummer was on fire. They beat the pants off the Rapture for post-punk dance-a-bility. And for the life of me, I heard nothing Strokes-esque about their music. They were goofy, too, which I loved.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 24 January 2004 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I Haven't Heard Them Yet.
But I Hear Nothing But Good Things.
And I Like The Strokes.
Don't Know Why So Many People Don't.
Wanna Go Have Some Sushi?
Come On.....No Really Come On.....
So You Don't Wanna Have Sushi With Me?.

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Saturday, 24 January 2004 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

As mentioned elsewhere, the lead guy is apparently a Sparks fanatic = I'm inclined to like these characters.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I like them, looking forward to hearing the album. Big Talking Heads influence, which can't be a bad thing.

Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

The club I was in last night played Take Me Out three times over the course of the evening. It's nice and that, but Christ.

Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

If anything, I'd say they owe more to Interpol than the Strokes. They certainly seem to have more to say and more imaginative ways to say it than the Strokes do. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the Strokes, but they don't seem to have much fun in the presentation of their art. By contrast, Franz Ferdinand certainly do.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Big Talking Heads influence, which can't be a bad thing.

Just about *every* band who ever admits to/talks about a Talking Heads influence is better than the Talking Heads themselves, I've found. So this is quite a recommendation!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

morgan geist rmx sounds a bit meh, disappointingly

prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 24 January 2004 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

BOO TO YOU NED. I just bought a used LP of Fear of Music (along with Miss E: So Addictive and a Carmen McRae album where she covers Alice Cooper's "Only Women Bleed") and I will play it loudly in amiable yet rebellious defiance of your haterism.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

(a McRae album, I should add, that the AMG Jazz Snob Mafia doesn't appear to like.)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

haha she covers eric carmen's "all by myself" too!

aleksandr supertramp (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who's noticed that the singer sounds exactly like David Gedge?

JoB (JoB), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

BOO TO YOU NED.

It's true! I only like a few singles by them -- mostly for nostalgia -- and I've never cared enough to listen any further. It's like they have all these reasonably good elements and put them together in a way that annoys.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

If you think they sound like The Strokes, then you need to get your shit together, sure maybe the first :30 of "Take Me Out" might sound a little bit, but The Strokes have never come up with anything half as tuneful as "Take Me Out." It's so much more a Josef K, Talking Heads, Blondie, Orange Juice, Fall thing.

fuck off,

Hector

Hector Savage, Sunday, 25 January 2004 05:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Hector OTM.

I can't believe it's taken this long on this thread for anyone to mention Josef K. They also remind me in many ways of The Yummy Fur (not the aussie one), which is perhaps not surprising considering the groups share two members.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Hector OTM except Franz Ferdinand are still not all that. I get the impression that what they're trying to do is very good but their execution of it sadly isn't.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I've only heard one song, but so far I like.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought they sounded like Josef K on the first EP. And a tiny bit like Momus on Van Tango. Not so much on the new one, it's too tight and in tune.

Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I will listen to the album later and provide an important and gripping insight into what I think it sounds a bit like in places.

Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

they used to be in the yummy fur ? but the yummy fur were quite good!

my friend's quote at w/e was "franz ferdinand ? more like les ferdinand".

not funny, but nor are they.

fletcher dexter, Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i hear they're supposed to be much better live than on record. so far i've got the Darts of Pleasure EP and like it a bit, so if the above is true, i'll be quite happy if i get to see them. and they'll be here in March. so. :)

janni (janni), Monday, 26 January 2004 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

From a semi-attentive first listen, the single is the the best thing on the album by quite some distance.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I randomly saw them at T in the Park last year on the wee bands stage and quite liked them in their angular pop music stompy disco german-ness. The ToTP performance was cool in its complete lack of polish; they did try to do moves together but didn't really pull it off. Best of all is their miniature gay Jim Carey/Kyle MacLachlan guitar player. Quite entertaining in a big headed sorta way.

Does anyone else find it really bizarre that they are in the top 5?

hmmmm, Monday, 26 January 2004 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Franz Ferdinand - if The Strokes could play their instruments a bit better.

Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

they would be a lot more boring

stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

So, if supposedly The Strokes sound JUST like VU/Television, and Franz Ferdinand sounds EXACTLY like The Strokes, why did we cut out the middle man and say Franz Ferdinand sounds like VU/Television?

Oh right, because they don't.

LiquidTide (LiquidTide), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't see the link between FF and the strokes, really (and I like both...maybe I AM the missing link then !?)
FF haven't released an album yet, have they ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

The Strokes would never sully themselves with anything as vulgar as a tempo change.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i can site indie bands and paste lyrics
i can hate on obvious targets
i have so much time on my hands because i don't have to work
i am full of disdain for whatever other people like because i need to feel superior

xpost
Kapranos=Greek
BUT THE LYRICS
"She's a brick house" etc.

sometimes i like to pretend i am insightful, Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

dude you're kind of obsessed with not liking this band aren't you?

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

he's not greek, I think.

isn't his name alex huntley and isn't he, like, 40?

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

someone has it out for me!

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Stonehenge, where the demons dwell
Where the banshees live and they do live well
Stonehenge
Where a man is a man and the children dance to
the pipes of pan
Stonehenge
Tis a magic place where the moon doth rise
With a dragon's face
Stonehenge
Where the virgins lie
And the prayer of devils fill the midnight sky
And you my love, won't you take my hand
We'll go back in time to that mystic land
Where the dew drops cry and the cats meow
I will take you there
I will show you how

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

don't you have homwork to do?

ilm, Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

no

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

more like homowork gahAH!!!@

\(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://files.loudmusic.dk/covers/daftpunkhomework.jpg

I like Homework better than Franz Ferdinadz

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

...

u gonna start collecting deep house comps now?

\(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000038TG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i like nelly

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Alex Kapranos says: ROCK ON or FUCK YOU!!!

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that a picture of Alex Kapranos railing against reality pop as he is often want to do?

Chairman ROFLMAO (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

By the way, I love FF. That photo was taken during their gig on the Sudoeste Festival here in Portugal, and they were just ass-shaking fantastic... Better than the Strokes, by far. One should listen to "...Matinée", "Jacqueline" and "Michael", at least.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"Better than the Strokes" is a pretty low level to aspire to.

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that picture of Luke Skywalker flipping off the Emperor?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"Better than the Strokes" is a pretty low level to aspire to.

Just reacting to the most repeated comparison made here. To me, they were one of the best new acts I've heard this year.


Ned: it's a \oo/, not a .|.
;-)

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

They are better than The Rapture, Les Savy Fav, The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and !!!.

kaiser wilhelm, Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Wrong!

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

They're not as good as MOP, Lemar, Chicago, or Edith Piaf.

Chairman ROFLMAO (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 24 October 2004 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

You're right. They are much better than The Rapture, Les Savy Fav, The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and !!!.

kaiser wilhelm, Sunday, 24 October 2004 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

why do they sound like a bunch of dumbshit high school indie fux?


DEAR DISCHORD RECORDS, DO NOT SEND ANY MORE RECORDS TO ENGLAND

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, they sound so much like Shudder to Think. I wonder if you've listened to the record. There isn't a bad song on it.

kaiser wilhelm, Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

jon, why do FF bother you so much? are they really that ubiquitous on college campuses these days?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

(also, they are good, but i don't expect that to convince you)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I have Deep House Party Volume 3!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I see 2 or 3 FF shirts at every dumb party.

Also, they are better than Nickelback.

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

is it good spencer!!!@

\(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the majority of the songs on their self-titled, but I can't agree that it's as consistant as either of the Strokes releases.

billstevejim, Monday, 25 October 2004 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So this week the overrated Franz Ferdinand are being advertised on TalkSport radio.

The Scottish person doing the narrative marketing speak sounds like Edwyn Collins.

Can anyone confirm that it is Edwyn Collins !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, Edwyn Collins did the voiceover for a BBC SCotland Franz docu that was on last week, so it might just be him.

stew, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
franz ferdinand are to funky for this site.

Well do ya do ya do ya wanna, wanna go... where i've never let you before?

jimmy jims, Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

No.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

they are letting out some of their yummy fur.

keyth (keyth), Saturday, 1 October 2005 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...
yes, they DO suck.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 5 December 2005 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Franz who ?

snowballing (snowballing), Monday, 5 December 2005 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

you know, the archduke.

mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 5 December 2005 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link

for a minute there, i thought that it was franz ferdinand fanon ...

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 5 December 2005 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

best bump in a while

blunt (blunt), Monday, 5 December 2005 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

What do they look like?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 5 December 2005 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

The second album really hasn't happened for them, has it?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 5 December 2005 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, in the way shit happens...

Hat (Hat), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link

4 nights at alexandra palace is a strange definition of career crisis

cw (cww), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

p.s. which one of them was in the yummy fur? they were loads of fun.

cw (cww), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Franz Ferdinand are great when they do indeed not sound like The Strokes, like on "Eleanor Put Your Boots On".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir Hongro relentlessly OTM on this thread.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

today i learned that ferdinand zvonimir maria balthus keith michael otto antal bahnam leonhard von habsburg-lothringen instagrammed his solo caravanning holiday in margate: https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17962143535263359/

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