Come Anticipate "Brokeback Mountain" With Me

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i'm pretty excited to see some male-on-male action without the shame of ducking into a pr0n theatre.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm already in line.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Hearing Ledger's 'accent' in the trailer, I have a difficult time buying him as the best performance.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm very much looking forward to this. The trailer looks a little ridiculous, but I am so there.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

IF you think his accent is bad in the trailer, you should rewatch Monster's Ball, wherein he was most unconvincing as Billy Bob's boy. His Oscar-begging line (it sounds something like this):

"DO YEW HAYTE MEE?"

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I love hearing bad accents in the movies. It's fun to figure out exactly what they're doing wrong. That aside, there are lots of good-looking people in this movie. Even the ladies!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Jen Lindley finally overtakes Joey Potter's career. Take that, Ms. Cruise.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I've always liked Michelle Williams but haven't seen any of her post-Dawson's Creek work. Wasn't she a lesbian in If These Walls Could Talk?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, with Chloe Sevigny. She was also in a low-budget chick flick (Me Without You) with some hated British actress and had a smallish part in The Station Agent. Both are pretty decent, but I don't remember seeing her in anything else.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think I'd want to see a Jake Gylennhall/Heath Ledger cowboy movie with or without graphic gay sex in it.

'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Also one about people who get recreational lobotomies. She's really nice too - I used to see her at shows in Wilmington.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Michelle Williams was pretty decent in Dick

'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I forgot about Dick. I've always gotten Me Without You confused with the pointless My Life Without Me.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"You don't go there to FISH!"

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"I can't quit you!"

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Edit: "I don't know how to quit you!"

Or something like that.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Hilarity.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"If we're going to be working together, I reckon it's time we started fucking..."

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"want to toss some hay?"

gear (gear), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't get over how clean and shiny-haired Anne Hathaway looked compared with Michelle's poor Appalachian waif.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I snickered uncomfortably at the trailer. Some of it looked like Tom of Finland put to film.

andy --, Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll be intrigued to see if the JG character's fate is as ambiguous (or not) as it was in the Proulx story.

Apparently Michelle Williams may be 'acting' off the set much like Katie Holmes, IF you know what I mean...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

You guys realize if there's any pudding in this film, it'll be the strawman indie film as outlined by Cartman in South Park?

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's Michelle's poor Wyoming Rockies waif.

Movies like this always make me want to move to one of those shithole militia states - they're all so pretty and clean.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

This movie has to be so much better than very good before I'll be glad it was ever made. It has to be, as Michael Hitchcock said in Guffman, magic.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

But that's how I feel about most movies!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

You didn't say that about Asian Knights II: The Revenge

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Movies like this always make me want to move to one of those shithole militia states - they're all so pretty and clean.


They're the best.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

You didn't say that about Asian Knights II: The Revenge

Revenge is sweet, but it's not magic.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i was really hoping this would be super campy overwrought and terrible.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

That's still a real possibility.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course, I'm hoping that it's super campy overwrought and wonderful.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

every love scene scored to "Glory of Love" by Peter Cetera, in its entirety.

gear (gear), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link

and the Stones' "Monkey Man" over the end credits.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

This would have been even wilder if they had used the cast of Young Guns and cast Charlie Sheen & Emilio Estevez in the roles. Wrong you right out the theatre, it would.

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 11 November 2005 06:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder how many people in the audience would even know they were watching staged incest.

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 11 November 2005 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i wouldn't dwell on that.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 November 2005 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link

well it can't be THAT graphic 'cause i thought obviously shown penises get an X rating.

sonore (sonore), Friday, 11 November 2005 06:44 (eighteen years ago) link

it depends on the state of the penis

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah if it's dead you can get an "R".

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Or if it's floppy and only onscreen for a second. See: The Piano.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

But it has to be *floppy*. A cold, shrivelled penis also gets you an X.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Trainspotting had penis.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I was going to mention the collected films of Ewan McGregor, but there you go.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Ewan has a magnificent member, IIRC.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Bad Lieutenant.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Was definitely NC-17.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

And most of Ewan's films have also been NC-17. Trainspotting shows his johnson in silhouette which is probably another way of getting an 'R'.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Ewan's macgregor even appeared to be at half-mast while he was doing "TV Eye."

I thought Heath Ledger gave the best performance in "Monsters Ball" --I don't care much about accent authenticity, and if only Halle Berry's character had blown her brains out before she did all that caterwauling.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The thought of Ewan at half mast makes me temporarily gay.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

he's not

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link

discus

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link

then i apologize.

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link

actually i shouldnt be on this thread, i think emotionally im too close.

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I am Australian so I'm probably allowed even less of an opinion (at least the English ruled America for a while), if such things matter at all.

I'm not dissing Brokeback Mountain, it's still my second favourite film of, oh, the last twelve months or so. When did Hotel Rwanda come out? (Don Cheadle was better in that than Crash).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link

anthony i really liked your post abt brokeback and i agree with you.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 12 March 2006 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link

thank you, wow!

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 March 2006 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I would not be surprised if "Hotel Rwanda" was better than every movie mentioned on this thread.

Dan (Easily My Favorite Movie Of The 2000s) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know if it's my favourite film of the 2000s (haven't really thought about that) but I loved it deeply. I found Crash very powerful in a few specific moments, but Hotel Rwanda was like a sustained two hour punch to the gut.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 13 March 2006 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Hotel Rwanda is great, yes.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 13 March 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Seems like Randy Quaid's actin' like mean ol' Joe Aguirre:

Randy Quaid Sues Over 'Brokeback'
Actor claims producers defrauded him

TMZ obtained a copy of the lawsuit, filed Thursday in Los Angeles Superior Court, claiming producers falsely represented the movie to him as "a low-budget, art house film, with no prospect of making any money." Quaid claims the representations were a ruse from the beginning. 'Brokeback' has grossed around $160 million.

Quaid's suit claims that in 2004, he met with director Ang Lee, who offered him the role of Joe Aguirre. The suit alleges that Lee told Quaid: "We can't pay anything, we have very little money, everyone is making a sacrifice to make this film."

The suit does not specifically state how much Quaid made, but it does claim that the defendants "were engaged in a 'movie laundering' scheme designed to obtain the services of talent such as Randy Quaid on economically unfavorable art film terms..."

The suit asks for $10 million in damages as well as punitive damages. It also seeks "restitution for all ill-gotten gains."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds like balls defined. "talent such as Randy Quaid..." Like other mid-80s SNL cast members?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

A testy exchange in the letters page between producer James Schamus and Daniel Mendelsohn in the last New York Review of Books. Mendelsohn had attacked BBM's promoters for obscuring its queerdom. Schamus coyly denies it:

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Andrew Holleran on Brokeback:

http://glreview.com/13.2-holleran.php

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

what that quaid article doesnt mention is that this trick already worked on him once with national lampoon's vegas vacation

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two years pass...

Brokeback The Opera.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

we await the "Jack Nasty" aria.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

I don't get this movie. The desire between the two beefy lunks at the centre seemed totally phoney. Unbelievable. Non-existent. It just wasn't there.

And jeezus, the whole thing is about 2.5 hrs long, to tell a non-story.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 March 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Egad, this thread. I'm spouting nonsense all over it.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 March 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

this was on TV last night and I finally sat through it and it was garbage. I hate you Ang Lee. The end.

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

we don't see enough of Gylly's arse.

also Rosenbaum OTM way upthread

xp

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

my wife cried at the end though (she professed to being bored with the rest of the film)

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, you have to see this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3fiHumNOm0

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

It is a little slow, but its beautifully shot. Can't agree that it would be complete garbage.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I recently watched this movie again and it's totally awesome and classic all around.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

It is a little slow, but its beautifully shot

Beautiful widescreen nature shots are always beautiful.

filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

It's all downhill after the first tent fuck.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

ain't that always the way...

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I love widescreen outdoor nature shots too but there was nothing particularly interesting about these, sorry.

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

It's not just those though. I really like the way a majority of the scenes are framed. I haven't watched it in a long time so I'm having trouble bringing up specific examples, but I just really loved the way the whole film looked.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 04:01 (fourteen years ago) link

my reaction was the opposite, really.

Gyllenhaal was pretty good tho. shouty monologue at the end was a bit much. but he aged the character in a believable way (stunt mustache!)

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i dunno if anyone has mentioned this but the thing that pissed me off abt this movie was that first sex scene. I mean, we're supposed to believe that these guys start barebackin it with a little spit for lube and that he gets it in that easy and that gyllenhaal is bottoming for the first time and that he actually enjoys it. at least enough to do it again. That shit would be fn sore, even a little "whoa man, take it easy" and i might buy it.

plax (ico), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

are we so sure that it's gyllenhall's first time?

and maybe it hurts but he doesn't want it to stop so he shuts up about it

(the spit detail is hot imo- i'll take it over realism)

twice boiled cabbage is death, Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I got the impression that this wasn't jack twist's first rodeo, so to speak.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 19 June 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, where wd u get that idea, esp as he goes cruisin in Mexico when Ennis is unavailable.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 June 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link

The story makes it clear that Jack's been twistin' before Ennis.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 June 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

this movie

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

Seems like Randy Quaid's actin' like mean ol' Joe Aguirre:
Randy Quaid Sues Over 'Brokeback'
Actor claims producers defrauded him

TMZ obtained a copy of the lawsuit, filed Thursday in Los Angeles Superior Court, claiming producers falsely represented the movie to him as "a low-budget, art house film, with no prospect of making any money." Quaid claims the representations were a ruse from the beginning. 'Brokeback' has grossed around $160 million.

Quaid's suit claims that in 2004, he met with director Ang Lee, who offered him the role of Joe Aguirre. The suit alleges that Lee told Quaid: "We can't pay anything, we have very little money, everyone is making a sacrifice to make this film."

The suit does not specifically state how much Quaid made, but it does claim that the defendants "were engaged in a 'movie laundering' scheme designed to obtain the services of talent such as Randy Quaid on economically unfavorable art film terms..."

The suit asks for $10 million in damages as well as punitive damages. It also seeks "restitution for all ill-gotten gains."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto)

foreshadowing of crazy?

omar little, Saturday, 25 February 2012 04:05 (twelve years ago) link

Guessing Randy would love to work under economically unfavorable art film terms now

da croupier, Saturday, 25 February 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link

lol that randy quaid screenshot

it took me a while to see this, but i thought it was a pip

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 26 February 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

i guess the ending was a little 'tragic homo' but i thought it was great anyway

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 26 February 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Was just wondering what happened to Lucas Hedges ...

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 20 March 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link

He had himself fitted for Heath Ledger's jacket.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 March 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link

"A play with music" but definitely NOT a gay-ass musical, heavens no!

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 20 March 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link

I can imagine Faist as Jack Twist more easily than Hedges as Ennis del Mar.

jaymc, Monday, 20 March 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

I can definitely imagine them in those roles better than the inverse.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 20 March 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link


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