Elia Kazan - Search and Destroy

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Not a bad way to spend an hour, but don't go out of your way. A lot of Scorsese talking about how important East of Eden was to him.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I missed the first 15 minutes or so, and watched/listened to most of the rest. I was surprised by how comparatively little there was on A Face in the Crowd. The remembrances after Scorsese's thing were pretty good, but does Alec Baldwin have any first-hand connection to Kazan? Everyone else did--he doesn't seem old enough.

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I assumed the bulk of it only really covered what was really personal to Scorsese, and Kent Jones made him throw something about A Face in the Crowd in there.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

It definitely would have fit Scorsese's thesis that HUAC transformed Kazan from a "director to a filmmaker"--A Face in the Crowd was as intricately connected to McCarthy as anything Kazan did. (I read up a bit on Baldwin; he played Stanley Kowalski on Broadway, so he gets to ruminate on Kazan.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Cannot lie. I'm a sucker for this sort of thing.

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Gukbe, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

a tree grows in brooklyn was surprisingly moving and grim, loved joan blondell and all the acting really

buzza, Saturday, 9 February 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

the v underrated Wild River on BluRay

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/wild-river/2542

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 February 2013 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

a face in the crowd: terrific first third, willing to jump out of scenes excitingly early and get abstractly hellish in places (montage of VITAJEX commercials was a high point), gets clunkier and duller as it goes until rallying for its opera-nightmare final moments. matthau as the voice of flowery authorial righteousness gets tighter and less embarrassing lines than william holden in network but gives a much blander performance. but i thought griffith was just great, all through. some of his quickchanges from belly laughs to reptilian contempt reminded me of patrick bateman picking up his dry cleaning: an easy trick to overdo but he didn't. (his first couple seconds onscreen, in the jail, when he's nakedly enraged at being bothered but then lights up with charm the instant he sees the pretty girl and the microphone, were really efficient tone-setting.) i liked the switchboard girls handling all the outraged sponsorship-cancellation calls near the end ("what did he say?") but who doesn't like switchboard girls. i also laughed every time we saw the economy-size bottle of vitajex.

was the theme tune "you gotta move"? it kept sounding like it.

six months pass...

"meaty" volume of Kazan's letters

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/books/review/the-selected-letters-of-elia-kazan.html

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 July 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Criterion Blu of Waterfront looks great, and the 20-min interview of Scorsese by Kent Jones is excellent. "It's more than a movie to me now... It's a phenomenon."

Also there's a half-hour primer on the Jersey docks from the fin de siecle thru the '50s... After the film's release, the longshoremen voted THREE TIMES to recertify "Johnny Friendly's" mob union. So the happy ending is, indeed, an utter fantasy. But who cares.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 04:44 (eight years ago) link

btw in her CC interview Ms Saint says (and she should know) that the park scene was not improv'd -- she dropped the glove in rehearsal, and Kazan decided that and Brando putting it on was the engine of the scene.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

america america is incredible. so many scenes that feel so true. just a staggering film about the migrant experience. one of the greatest films ive seen the last few years actually. sometimes a little awkwardly placed between old and new hollywood styles/methods but the performances and scenarios have a docu-like truth to them. ive not seen all his films but it has to be right up there.

StillAdvance, Monday, 20 February 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I saw America, America for the first time yesterday in a 35mm print of the Scorsese/Film Foundation restoration. It's hardly perfect -- the Greek neophyte who plays the lead has limited range, for sure -- but it's visually hypnotic however much 'anonymized peasant' dialogue it has. (And that's not all there is, as when the kid's uncle in Constantinople, learning he's lost the family's bankroll, says, "Here, Ruination, sweep.") Also, the fiancee's rug seller father is maybe the most fully etched spokesman for Old World values in popular cinema.

It's interesting that it was made the same year as Visconti's Leopard, cuz the two of them together seem like the largest 'arty' influences on Godfather I-II. Early on Stavros sees a hand-kiss supplication to power through a semi-ajar door; I wonder if Coppola intended a blatant hommage. And AA even has John Marley.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 April 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link

I thought I read a Coppola interview from the '90s acknowledging its influence.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 April 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

Kazan started scripting his own movies at this point too. Anyone read his novels?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 April 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link

Not I. He only did 3 features after this, and The Arrangement (based on his novel), which was supposed to star Brando, but ended up a dud w/ Kirk Douglas, Dunaway and D Kerr, is the only one where he's the credited writer.

His son wrote The Visirors, and Pinter adapted Last Tycoon.

AA was a Kazan novel as well.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 April 2017 15:39 (seven years ago) link

what films have sequences shot on location at Ellis Island besides AA and The Immigrant (James Gray)? Apparently the scene in Godfather II was a set in an Italian fish market.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 April 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link

I read his autobiography a couple of decades back and thought it pretty good.

Stevolende, Monday, 3 April 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

just saw streetcar for the first time (play or film)

it is pitiless in every direction

mark s, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link

The ending of the film was originally softened (there are two different cuts I believe, one that differs from the play's by suggesting Stella has qualms about returning to Stanley)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link

in this one she just ran upstairs w/the baby

mark s, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

saying she wd not go back (tho in the story so far she always has: i guess the implication is either way, so the play is bleaker)

mark s, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

found this film devastating as a teen, i'd never seen anything like it before

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 22 January 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

still turning this film over in my head (unilke THIE BIG EASY lol)*

the play was written 70 years ago last year: i went to bed thinking "is it mostly a story of THEN or is it also a story of NOW?"

some elements are probably more timelocked than others: "faded southern belle, once propertied but no longer", would i think inflect very differently now -- and the potential ways out for her would seem different, but i couldn't help thinking the play's ruthless argument (NO WAY OUT) might be the same

(i would not have thought this 20 years ago: i worry now that i do)

*while recuperating from flu i am embarked on a big watch of new-orleans based moves (i didn't perhaps actually learn very much abt new orleans from this one but that doesn't matter)

mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link

pls tell me hard target is on that list

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

it is :)

so is hatchet

mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link

in 2018 a gay man would get cast as Blanche

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link

u gotta add king creole! (it is the best elvis movie, great photography, originally envisioned for james dean but then, well, events)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

i can see that obviously, but there's also a resurgent hard-fought politics round the respectability (and otherwise) of sex work, which seems germane

not to mention everything swirling round kowalski: on the one hand, toxic masculinity to the max obv, on the other, his manifestation as (A) a counter to B's deliberate self-delusion re the possibility of the existence via pure torpid* continuity of a world of delicacy, grace and courteous kindness, and (B) an avatar of a kind of wounded pride that he is not of her corrupted demimonde

*if we want this world to exist (via continuity or ab novo) we're going to have to fight for it: tho perhaps that does come back to alfred's gay man

mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

xp to alfred, DONE to tracer

mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

mark pls to start a new orleans movie thraed

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

am planning to BG

mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

yaaaas

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I missed the first 15 minutes or so, and watched/listened to most of the rest. I was surprised by how comparatively little there was on A Face in the Crowd. The remembrances after Scorsese's thing were pretty good, but does Alec Baldwin have any first-hand connection to Kazan? Everyone else did--he doesn't seem old enough.
― clemenza, Monday, October 4, 2010 10:49 PM

I saw A Letter to Elia tonight and there was no Alec Baldwin. So this was a director's cut?

Anyway it's great, esp if you were one of the troglodytes who kept Kazan out of ILX's Top 50 Film Directors.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 December 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

Blacklisted was he?

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 December 2019 05:42 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

Watch till the end.

Orson always getting haughty about Elia Kazan is one of my favorite things in the world. pic.twitter.com/yKf2tnJpVY

— John Frankensteiner (@JFrankensteiner) October 11, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 October 2020 08:21 (three years ago) link

He really was the fucking best.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 12 October 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

his autobiography was pretty good, has been a while since i read it though.

Stevolende, Monday, 12 October 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Wild River's an odd one: an uneasy mix of the epic and the personal. Monty Clift's an agent in the newly formed Tennessee Valley Authority ordered to clear Jo Van Fleet and her family off an island before the water submerges it. The racial politics -- Van Fleet's rather kind to her Black sharecroppers -- are fascinating in this post-Montgomery pre-1963 film. Clift delivers one of his more credible post-accident cryogenic performances.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 November 2021 11:55 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

Panic in the Streets is hella tense and effective. He knew how to use a camera this early in his career.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 October 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

I've started watching his films again, have seen A Streetcar Named Desire and On the Waterfront. I've noticed that Panic in the Streets is on the Criterion Channel. Also want to watch Gentleman's Agreement.

A Tree Grows In Brooklyn, his earliest film, doesn't seem to be available

Dan S, Monday, 3 October 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link


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