To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?

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J0rdan S., Monday, 4 October 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

this is ludicrous. one might just as well say that "rock today is what rock was in 1955-57."

No. Because there was no rock in 1955-57. Just rock'n'roll. Which is another genre.

Rock is by its very definition what The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix and Cream were doing around 1967-68. That was rock then, and that is the definition of rock today. So I guess the likes of Paul Weller and Lenny Kravitz probably come closer to true rock than anyone else.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Just the same way pop by its very definition was whatever The Beatles, The Beach Boys and The Byrds were doing around the same time.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir is funk rock (funkadelic etc) and metal not rock?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

you're manipulating the terms to suit your own idea of what these genres should be, and drawing arbitrary distinctions between things that exist on a continuum. the word "rock" has existed for almost as long as "rock and roll", and originally described exactly the same thing. we can treat early "rock and roll" as the progenitor subgenre of rock (the umbrella genre), leading into things like baroque pop, acid rock, prog, folk rock, etc. - but they're all still just types of rock music, points on the curve. same goes for later permutations like heavy metal, punk, indie rock, noise rock, hardcore, etc.

likewise, the term "pop" predates the 67-68 era by at least a decade, if not more.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir is funk rock (funkadelic etc) and metal not rock?

Funk rock is a subgenre of funk, metal is a subgenre of rock, but not really rock.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

"Pop" dates back to the 20s.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 4 October 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

you're manipulating the terms to suit your own idea of what these genres should be, and drawing arbitrary distinctions between things that exist on a continuum. the word "rock" has existed for almost as long as "rock and roll", and originally described exactly the same thing. we can treat early "rock and roll" as the progenitor subgenre of rock (the umbrella genre), leading into things like baroque pop, acid rock, prog, folk rock, etc. - but they're all still just types of rock music, points on the curve. same goes for later permutations like heavy metal, punk, indie rock, noise rock, hardcore, etc.

likewise, the term "pop" predates the 67-68 era by at least a decade, if not more.

But nobody cared about rock history before the baby boomers. The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all. They know this, they have the key to this. We should all respect the authority of the baby boomers.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Rock history didn't exist before the baby boomers

I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

There was no rock in pre-WWII america or anywhere else.

I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Please make We should all respect the authority of the baby boomers. the new board description.

And geir, of course Metal is Rock.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

We should all respect the authority of the baby boomers.

even if you're not trolling, you're trolling

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

if I respected the musical opinions of most baby boomers I know then all rock music would sound like Loverboy

horton whores a HOOS (crüt), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

because I would be making all rock music

horton whores a HOOS (crüt), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

if I respected the musical opinions of most baby boomers I know then all rock music would sound like Loverboy

The typical AOR fan is born in the 50s or 60s, not in the late 40s.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I believe the "baby boomer" phase was up to the late fifties.

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

..and here to illustrate this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S.BirthRate.1909.2003.png

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Ach, romo.

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having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

this is ludicrous. one might just as well say that "rock today is what rock was in 1955-57." excluding all baroque pop a la the beatles & zombies, excluding all prog and acid rock, excluding everything that does n't sound of a part with chuck berry, bill haley, jerry lee lewis, little richard, elvis, buddy holly, etc. and that's just ridiculous.

I've actually read a few critics that have tried to say something similar; it was a kind of a fashionable angle to approach things for a minute...

butthurt surfers (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir raising his game. Hats off.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link


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