anticipate TRUE GRIT by the Coen brothers

thats how much i like it

im anticipating it

truly

grittily

Truly, grittily, deeply

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810153253/video/22265614

yeahhhhhhhh

I think my problem with westerns is that too many of them fall into the middle ground between adherence to the classic western and a radical break from it

Well what really inspired the revisionism was Vietnam + Peckinpah. And since we have since regressed to the most reactionary pop culture since the pre-rock '50s, obv there are gonna be a lot of faux-reviz westerns.

God, everything about now sucks ... so ... bad!

this weekend i picked up a vintage paperback of the book ("soon to be major motion picture starring john wayne") which i plan to read before seeing this

book is out of print in the uk ;_;

I would hope that matt damon braining dudes with the butt end of his gun is a john wayne tribute.

also BEAR FACE

Yeah, I was gonna say.

also BEAR FACE

book is out of print in the uk ;_;

This is in Ireland granted but i've seen plenty of copies of the 2005 reissues of Portis's novels in second-hand bookshops.

God, everything about now sucks ... so ... bad!

ok, 1975-91 was pretty bad too, especially the pop music

That's our Morbs!

Hmm, and yet the western was mostly nascent during that time period. If only directors could've found a way to work in some crack and AIDS metaphors into Monument Valley horse operas.

what about the Reagan White House?

Some great Cliffnotes on Fort Smith, the Indian Territory and facts the Coen Bros are using to shape their film.

wow, thats a great read! thanks! holky ufuk im excited for this!!!!!! rrraAGHGUHHGHHGHGH *tears shirt off and screams*

Early buzz is extremely positive http://thefilmstage.com/2010/11/30/early-buzz-for-true-grit-a-new-coen-bros-classic/

Is anyone really anticipating? The trailer was more Bridges in grumpy mode.

are you kidding im anticipating the balls outta this

couldnt u say the original was john wayne in grumpy mode??? it still owned!

also i get the feeling that the girl playing mattie ross could end up stealing this, she looks great in the trailers

Never seen the original -- it looks, well, like the movie for which John Wayne won his Oscar.

the original's awesome! the source material's really underrated, lots of cool moments and cracking dialogue...

I'll see it, because I see most Coen films--well above half, anyway. But the idea that the guys who made Miller's Crossing, Fargo, and No Country for Old Men felt it necessary to revisit a popular, not-seriously-regarded John Wayne film (which, in fairness, I've never seen) is not all that encouraging to me. If nothing else, I'm sure it'll be better than Scorsese's Cape Fear remake.

It's on my Netflix queue.

i'd probably recommend the book first... the movie's pretty watered down though still beloved for the elements it does retain... since Cape Fear was brought up, that material is a lot less strong and it's the kind of thing that succeeds because of Mitchum and some moody photography, but there are a lot of actors who could knock Rooster Cogburn out of the park because it's such a great part and its such an awesome story... imo...

well, mattie ross is really The Great Part but w/e

anyone not anticipating this is nutso

John Wayne pretty much gives a comedy performance in the first film. (I know you ppl who will never see it will say that's probably unintentional cuz u know he was a Republican moron and not one of the great American stars blah blah.)

anyway, had no time to read the book, seeing this Tuesday.

Wayne, at his best (The Searchers, Red River), was as good as almost anybody; my own post above wasn't intended to imply otherwise. I just always assumed, perhaps unfairly, that Red River: True Grit = Godfather II: Scent of a Woman (which I also haven't seen...I make a lot of assumptions).

But the idea that the guys who made Miller's Crossing, Fargo, and No Country for Old Men felt it necessary to revisit a popular, not-seriously-regarded John Wayne film (which, in fairness, I've never seen

Don't understand why people can't get their heads round the fact that this is simply another adaptation of the book, not a remake of the John Wayne movie

cuz if they're too lazy to watch a john wayne movie they're sure as fuck not about to read some book

maybe they just heard abt it and thought that sounds good is all

this is simply another adaptation of the book, not a remake of the John Wayne movie

That's a good point. Again, I don't know either book or film, but: if they're putting the Wayne film aside and going back to the book, and if the book has lots of elements that the Wayne film missed, then remaking it would seem justified. There's some precedent I'm trying to remember, where somebody got it right the second time, but I can't come up with the title. (There are probably a number of precedents.)

Wayne, at his best (The Searchers, Red River), was as good as almost anybody; my own post above wasn't intended to imply otherwise. I just always assumed, perhaps unfairly, that Red River: True Grit = Godfather II: Scent of a Woman (which I also haven't seen...I make a lot of assumptions).

― clemenza, Saturday, December 4, 2010 11:19 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

it aint red river, but yeah that's pretty unfair. im amazed how many people havent seen it, did you guys not have TBS when you were kids? i think its more like... carlito's way, idk.

their justification for making it was prob they liked the work and thought they could make a good movie out of it im guessing

everything i've heard from folks who have seen it is that it owns

I think there's been a number of times where something was adapted once, then adapted again with the aim of being more true to the material

yaaaaa

It is weird that I've never seen True Grit. Possibly I saw it at a drive-in as a kid, but if so, I don't remember. I guess I've always stayed away because 1) Wayne's best-actor award is usually singled out as Exhibit #1 in the career-achievement category of undeserved Academy Awards (I'm a huge Midnight Cowboy fan...), and 2) it makes me think of the word "rollicking," and that's not my favorite kind of film.

I think there's been a number of times where something was adapted once, then adapted again with the aim of being more true to the material

BATMAN BEGINS
THE INCREDIBLE HULK
SPIDERMANS
STAR TREK

clemenza, you may be over thinking this

Wow, that's what someone said to me on the Woody Allen thread the other day...for someone who doesn't do a great deal of serious thinking, you folks sure do think I do a lot of thinking!

quantity/quality

let go

Now, don't get me mad--I'm pretty good at nasty if the right button's pushed.