goodfellas

yeah obviously I don't mean that the story should be told about their fat-old-rich period, but their rise to power. altho the Sopranos starts with Tony at the top, and that was pretty genius. but maybe it's just well-travelled territory, not worth bothering..

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seriously i may like her more in casino where she's shushing everyone all the time

the departed is about an actual #1 thug, but then the provincial character kinda detracts from it

different setting from the others altogether tho (Boston/Irish Mafia + mostly being about cops/informers)

considering how much narration is in Casino, Scorsese's mom didn't shush nearly enough

seriously i may like her more in casino where she's shushing everyone all the time

all the scenes in the grocery store are A+++

she's also about the only thing i like in casino other than the fatty ham of james woods' performance.

yeah this is neither here nor there but i dunno how anyone gets an hour into casino

yeah obviously I don't mean that the story should be told about their fat-old-rich period, but their rise to power. altho the Sopranos starts with Tony at the top, and that was pretty genius. but maybe it's just well-travelled territory, not worth bothering..

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― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:50 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

he's not really at the top - the whole first season is the struggle for bosshood, and he never really gets there

casino starts great but just goes completely to hell

casino has some really great scenes but doesn't hang together too well

it's like they fucked it all up in the end

I just can't fathom what accent Joe Pesci was using in Casino – he's like a hamster from Bed-Stuy.

haha pesci's narration voice in casino is one of the most unpleasant sounds in movies for me

i think those guys are just less interesting. they're just rich guys who let everyone else do the bad stuff for them.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:46 (3 minutes ago)

don't rly get this, ratzinger is no less interesting a study of corrupt piety because he's not actually in a parish and fucking the kids himself

rather the rarified brutality and simpering acolytes of the godfather archetype make for thrilling gesture politics, the slightest intimation of distaste that can have some cunt's throat slit at a moment's notice...

admitting my original disdain for Casino was based on a hour caught on USA, I tried to rewatch it but 45 minutes in it felt like we were still in the intro. I know I'm touchier than most about narration but honestly it felt like a radio play over a photo montage. If anything it was more enjoyable with basic cable putting it through the "Pallies" editing machine.

atzinger is no less interesting a study of corrupt piety because he's not actually in a parish and fucking the kids himself

why you giving him ideas

that sentence is disgusting xxp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-rGnI9XNo

Casino is bloated, but the good stuff in it (Woods, De Niro working in his office without any pants, the grocery store scenes, Don Rickles, etc) is great

it's supposed to be disgusting, i'm comparing the church to a criminal organiation wrt their institutionalized criminality and 'omerta'

has scorsese really done a movie that goes hardcore with the catholicism* since mean streets? i mean it underlines everything, but i don't remember it as a major onscreen force. maybe his next flick will give us leo d. as a conflicted priest and daniel day as mustachioed pedo deacon.

*no last temptation of christ jokes plz.

the scene where the gaming commish comes to plead forgiveness for his son is awesome

also where they catch the cheats

Last Temptation is such a weird movie

has scorsese really done a movie that goes hardcore with the catholicism* since mean streets?

I would argue that The Age of Innocence is heavy with Catholic guilt despite its characters being Episcopalian.

i said deacon when i meant cardinal. i'm gonna get my knuckles whacked.

you're gonna get your eye popped out of your head

maybe his next flick will give us leo d. as a conflicted priest and daniel day as mustachioed pedo deacon.

lol you know martin's planning a movie about jesuit priests in japan starring Danny D-L, right?

one eye's going one way, the other eye's going the other way

and the brain's sayin', "what do you want?"

lol you know martin's planning a movie about jesuit priests in japan starring Danny D-L, right?

O_o

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2009/02/screw-super-bowl-scorsese-day-lewis-and.html

it may never actually get made, scorsese's saying he's doing one or two more first

now saying, I mean

"going to be a grim slide, Catholic guilt suffer-fest in Jesuit robes."

now that's entertainment.

The Last Temptation Goes To Kundun!

he never goes all the way to the top.

ep one of boardwalk empire gives you a lil glimpse of the outfit

not enough imo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7906245/Goodfella-Henry-Hill-still-living-in-hiding-20-years-after-film-release.html

so weird how this article describes as still being in hiding when dude gets paid to like, make appearances at nightclubs

Isn't he also opening restaurants and calling into Howard Stern every five minutes?

yeah... he is such a fishy character

He was moved 10 times to areas including Nebraska and Kentucky, living under aliases such as Martin Lewis and Peter Haines.

Was Abbot Costello already taken?

Also http://issuu.com/iheartau/docs/au69 p. 38

Ha. There are two guys who own a bar downtown who are named Martin and Jerry, and I always think their bizarro counterparts should be called Dean and Lewis.

Luckily I was in a sandwich shop yesterday that had a copy of GQ from last fall with that oral history (linked above, but I missed this thread). Loved it.

"People like John Turturro would come by and put sunglasses on and try to be an extra."

Also: picturing the potential Tom Cruise as Henry Hill, Madonna as his wife, Malkovich in the DeNiro role.

lol john turturro is hero status imo

Kind of want to go watch both but I know there's no way I could sit that long in a theater.

http://feitheatres.com/somerville-theatre/double-feature-goodfellas-and-casino-feb-9-12/

Will most def watch gf though.

I saw Casino in the theater, but haven't ever seen Goodfellas except for on television. Kinda weird since it's my favorite movie. Let us know what you notice different.

I will. Yeah, I haven't either. I distinctly remember my parents going and leaving me with a babysitter then coming home and talking about how good but "brutal" it was.

I was watching Casino the other night on television, and stuff like the car explosion at the beginning, the white overhead lighting on the mob bosses and stuff like the casino activity behind DeNiro's desk is diminished.

The desert scenes were real cool, but on TV, it kinda comes across like a CSI episode.

I saw Casino and Heat around the same time at the sketchy Skyway Theater in downtown Minneapolis. The season of long movies.

Goodfellas is so focused on the idea of neighborhoods as central to identity, and Casino is an interesting progression from there to this patch of sand that is nobody's neighborhood. It's like Goodfellas is Europe and Casino is the new world.

Goodfellas is so focused on the idea of neighborhoods as central to identity

I'm so into this idea. Like, in general.