Right you are about Jean Hagen, though I think you'll forgive my confusion:
'If the subject of movie dubbing is confusing to some trying to connect who is who, then what about the strange set-up connected with the classic MGM musical Singin’ in the Rain (1952)? This merry mix-up of real life dubbing was addressed in Ray Hagen’s article on Jean Hagen in Film Fan Monthly (December 1968): "In the film, Debbie Reynolds has been hired to re-dub Hagen’s dialogue and songs in the latter’s first talking picture. We see the process being done in a shot of Reynolds ... matching her dialogue to Hagen’s and synchronizing it while watching a scene from the film. But the voice that is used to replace Hagen’s shrill, piercing one is not Reynolds’ but Hagen’s own quite lovely natural voice—meaning that Jean Hagen dubs Debbie Reynolds’ dubbing Jean Hagen! To further confuse matters, the voice we hear as Hagen mimes "Would You?", supposedly supplied by Reynolds, is that of yet a third girl ... [Betty Royce]". Confusing? Well, there’s more. Although Debbie sang in the movie, notably the title tune (dubbing Hagen!), Debbie herself is dubbed again by Betty Royce in her duet with Gene Kelly "You Are My Lucky Star."
'Like Debbie Reynolds, other actresses or singers who were quite able to sing their own songs were still dubbed. One reason was money; if a studio had a music track but the vocalist who recorded it was unable to film, they just got someone else to lip sync the song on the screen.'
http://www.classicimages.com/past_issues/view/?x=/1998/november98/idibthee.html
So that is Reynolds singing "Singin' in the Rain"...
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 06:32 (fifteen years ago) link
.. or Gene!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, that's Reynolds on the title tune. And I've heard both Betty Noyes and Betty Royce but I believe the former is the correct name.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 09:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, Betty Noyes!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0637529/
I'm sorry to perpetrate two errors in one thread!
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean perpetuate. I'll go soak my head.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, I'm an auteurist too and all, but even I recognize Carrie and Dressed to Kill as among De Palma's best films.
I don't think I'm an auteurist, and Femme Fatale is head and shoulders above those two. (The second half of DtK is kind of appalling.)
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm an incorrigible auteurist and I think Femme Fatale is his best film.
xpost Oh pshaw, Pete. And again, I really loved your blurbs.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
You'd really have to be an auteurist to like Femme Fatale. No two ways about that in my opinion.
― Eric H., Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
or a Rebecca Romijn-Stamos fan.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually I have no clue what the argument is about. Just filling in the blanks.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Watched Vertigo for the first time last night, thanks to this poll. And I loved it, well done ILX.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 20 November 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Mission Accomplished
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 21 November 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
The latest Cahiers all-time list puts our #2 ahead of our #1. (also, no Brit films in their top 100)
http://www.cahiersducinema.com/article1337.html
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
This was maybe the best reveal thread. Or just the gayest.
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
Everyone's in character and it just works.
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Monday, 5 September 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
Really enjoyed reading this thread...
― *tera, Monday, 5 September 2011 05:48 (twelve years ago) link
Still love that Morbs, one of ILX's two foremost anti-gay marriage advocates, is so in love with Father of the Bride.
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Monday, 5 September 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link
nothing disconnective there -- I love Paris Is Burning and am still pretty dragphobic.
(also, FoB is pretty ambivalent at best about marriage)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
(ie, Vincente Minnelli would've only favored gay marriage to Judy Garland)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
Yep, '50s still a dark period in American history.
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
We were all in tip-top form here.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
Tracy has a nightmare in FoB! you should watch it. xp
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
Kevin thread's late-innings MVP
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Kevin was hilarious.
I look for any opportunity to revive my Wilder beef with Morbs.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
Oh look, even he likes that movie that got turned into a Steve Martin Short movie.
33. Father of The Bride – Along with Minnelli’s even more frightening The Long, Long Trailer (which I forgot to nominate), this film is the reason why we cannot determine genre by audience reaction alone.
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
I still can't sit through Shane, On the Beach, Rebel Without a Cause.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
Peck is a case study for the effects of exposure to nuclear radiation.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:49 PM
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
3 Kurosawas in the top 20 seems to me the poll's biggest overreaction. On the whole, these film poll results were ILX's best.
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
I still can't sit through Rebel Without a Cause.
^not gay
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
Well, no, I commit homosexual acts.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
Wish I'd been posting regularly then. My top 5 would be Sweet Smell of Success, On the Waterfront, The 400 Blows, The Apu Trilogy, and Paths of Glory; after that, Rear Window, Night of the Hunter, The Killing, maybe The Ten Commandments (absurd, I know), and something else--A Face in the Crowd and The Harder They Fall come to mind. Mostly predictable stuff.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I missed the first 20 minutes or so, but watched most of The Browning Version (Asquith, 1951) last night...surprisingly intense! Redgrave was great, and I really wanted to push Crocker-Harris' wife into traffic. Sort of an English Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 14 May 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
Wish I'd been posting regularly then. My top 5 would be Sweet Smell of Success, On the Waterfront, The 400 Blows, The Apu Trilogy, and Paths of Glory; after that, Rear Window, Night of the Hunter, The Killing, maybe The Ten Commandments (absurd, I know), and something else--A Face in the Crowd and The Harder They Fall come to mind. Mostly predictable stuff.― clemenza, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:48 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post
― clemenza, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:48 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post
You didn't vote? I thought you had, but the email records are long gone so I have no proof. I do know you came out for the 60s one (and IIRC posted on the thread too).
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't start posting regularly till April 2009, so I missed this by a few months. Depending upon how it was scored, I might have moved Night of the Hunter into first.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
A call to re-evaluate Stanley Kramer and On the Beach
http://filmint.nu/?p=5264
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
(i've never seen more than a few minutes of it btw)
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
anyone ever seen this novelization?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet#Novelization
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link