Countdown 100: Bands that got megahyped that failed spectacularly...

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"Candybar Express" not a hit?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

(see what I mean about Candy/Honey/Sugar?)

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.btinternet.com/~birdpoo/images/pupplp01.jpg

Stevie T, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I've got that album somewhere!

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

from Love and Money's wikipedia page - "hits" in this case meaning between #50 and #75

In their nine years together they recorded four moderately successful albums, three of which were released in the United States, and had six chart hits in the United Kingdom.[2]

Singles

"Candybar Express" (1986) UK #56
"Dear John" (1986)
"River of People" (1987)
*Love & Money" (1987) UK #68
"Halleluiah Man" (1988) UK #63
"Strange Kind of Love" (1989) UK #45
"Jocelyn Square" (1989) UK #51
"Up Escalator (1989)"
"Winter" (1991) UK #52
"My Love Lives in a Dead House" (1991)
"Wishing Waters EP" (1991)
"Last Ship on the River" (1994)

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"Strange kind of love" the only one I could hum you.

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

So, what positions did those moderately successful albums get to?

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Not exactly setting the heather on fire there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking at the wikipedia page, it looks like the record company tried everything they could launch them, but not one top 40 hit. Support slots for U2, Simply Red & Tina Turner, appearances on the Wogan TV show etc...

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

iirc 'Candybar Express' mentions both sugar and candy in the chorus.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

James Grant couldn't sing and wasn't very good looking - no competition for Sharleen Spiteri basically

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

So, what positions did those moderately successful albums get to?

Their first album didn't chart. I'd be surprised if any of the others reached higher than the arse end of the top 40. 'Dogs in the Traffic' was 30th in the Scotsman's top 100 Scottish albums thing that I think we discussed on ILM at one point.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Did Jonathan Fire*Eater srsly have seven figures chucked at them?? That seems like next level madness if that's true. In the UK they were exactly as big as you'd expect ie a cult band who had a good rep among indie kids and got played on the Evening Session (think Lamacq released their records in fact?)

Heurelho Gomes & The Scene (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Did Jonathan Fire*Eater srsly have seven figures chucked at them??

That was the story:

In early 1997, Jonathan Fire*Eater signed with David Geffens nascent Dreamworks music label. It was a million dollar contract with unusual clauses including full creative control for the band and a generous dental plan for their nearly toothless manager Walter Durkacz.

The front man had a big drug habit and the band collapsed, but (most of) the rest of the band put the money into their own studio (and re-formed as The Walkmen).

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/101581.jpg

^ remember seeing these cocknozzles all over Smash Hits when I was a kid. Never heard a note though.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Whozat?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

The mighty Drum Theatre

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link

It was a good era for preening buffoons in post-'Wild Boys' pyjamas

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Detective

henry s, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

were Das Psych-Oh Rangers hyped?

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

2x Hayzee Fantayzee + self-promotional linkidge

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 24 September 2010 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Managed a couple of hits though, and Jeremy Healy has been pretty successful since.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, two big hits in the UK, which is twice as many as Toto Coelo ever had.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The Gufs

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Tin Machine?

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Oy Vey, Baby still boggles the mind.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 24 September 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Radish! Another group what got tons of money thrown at them by Mercury. Think Ben Kweller saved a little bit of it, maybe and has ended up making a few records that for some reason sound nothing like Radish.

ellaguru, Friday, 24 September 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, ellaguru! I've been trying to think of them ever since I remembered Symposium being on the NME 'bratbus' tour (lol). I bought the Radish album...I...I dunno...

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, did anyone mention Vanessa Hudgens?

bang (HI DERE), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess Disney is guilty of spending money on people whose talents they later shifted - Lohan? Panetierre, Duff etc.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

hey onimo you remember Slide and The River Detectives?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

shitloads of these shitbands got hyped by billy sloan/daily record/sunday mail. Each one shitter than the last.
Love & Money were by far the worst.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The mighty Drum Theatre

Was about to mention them. "Eldorado" was actually a great pop song. But surely no hit. Not that one either.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw Slide a couple of times supporting people at the Barrowlands, can't remember what they sounded like.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hey onimo you remember Slide and The River Detectives?

shit yes :(

I think I saw the Silencers once, supporting The Alarm maybe.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

billy sloan really had a malign influence on scottish music

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

lots of youtubing from this thread the last couple days and it's apparent why the vast majority of these bands failed spectacularly...

skip, Friday, 24 September 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Nancy Boy.

paulhw, Friday, 24 September 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Dan Reed Network

nope (Zachary Taylor), Friday, 24 September 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

In terms of post-Nirvana major label cash hemmorhaging, Jonathan Fire*Eater probably had the most high-profile trajectory of "a MILLION dollar contract --> total flop album --> drugs --> cautionary tale --> obscure footnote." It's a really great album, though.

You forgot the absolute nadir of the trajectory:

Million dollar contract --> total flop album --> drugs --> cautionary tale --> obscure footnote --> The Walkmen.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

that Bingo by Catch is incredible, it's like the Motherbanger of Britpop

Underground - Parking (2010) (sic), Saturday, 25 September 2010 06:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh ILY ilxor. Madly.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, there was this band called Zeno who apparently had a "million pound deal" (whatever that actually means) with EMI around 1986. They made it to the front cover of Kerrang, the album flopped and everyone had forgotten about them 2 weeks later. The main guy was Uli Jon Roth's brother btw, didn't help much though. Here's what they sounded like :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrB_kuXuiPU

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Would Pink Lady qualify for this thread?

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

was that Jonathan Fire Eater album ever any good?

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought so. Better than the Walkmen, which might be damning them with faint praise.

Neil S, Saturday, 25 September 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

In fairness, though, 99% of bands are better than the Walkmen...

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

O-Town

corey, Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Atanas

(this will make sense only to the Detroiters out there)

henry s, Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link


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