Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

Al Jolson, hip-hop scholar.

lol at

'tryin-a"

ha

OMFG listen to this shit LOOOOOOOOOOOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA13-Ykrob4

i love that hipsters laugh at Reh Dogg but find this transcendent, uplifting and emotionally stimulating

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kr9qzslFpS1qzu5n3o1_500.jpg

Worst song on record tbh
I can't believe I feel inclined to defend this band in the face of this thread

Like, so many great records out there have been made by talentless, insufferable dipshits who have bad press releases

it's almost as if you're asking for the fader fort video to be posted again

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:07 PM

http://i46.tinypic.com/14udeeh.jpg

i hate when you post that photo cuz it looks like an ostensibly normal performance

w/ the video you get the part where he's doing 'rapper from texas' blackface

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ZetW6bQ7Q

haha god that never gets old

adore the intentional half-cough/half-laugh at the end

y'all down with shit

i love that hipsters laugh at Reh Dogg but find this transcendent, uplifting and emotionally stimulating

Do you love it, really? You love it? Well, I'm certainly no hipster, nor do I find this 'transcendent, uplifting and / or emotionally stimulating.' Who said they did? I don't find The Knife to be any of those things, either, but this record pushes the same buttons Silent Shout or even Burzum does. Do you dislike Silent Shout, Whiney? How bout Burzum?

i can't tell if these guys are worse than telepathe -- they come close i think

I'm embracing the overt ridiculousness of this band, I guess.

i don't even like the knife but i think it's an insult to karen dreijer to compare her to some dude mumbling lazy raps & then screwing his voice

oh there's the al jolson

hadn't seen that vid

http://i53.tinypic.com/209507p.jpg

But as many have also said upthread, this band is doing something special. They may not be meaning to, but I don't care. I love that there are already scores of imitators, and there's even that Witch Haus blog, and all these compilations of bands trying to jump on the Now That's What I Call Witch House bandwagon, and, true to form, Salem are nowhere to be found on any of these dumb comps. Totally cool.

this doesn't even make an argument for why the music is good

yeah ok dude deliberately lowering his voice to sound "black" while mumbling lazy fake southern accent swag rap

.......more than suspect.

whiney wins.

khaaaaaaaaaaaah!

xpost to Jordan - It doesn't attempt to. I just think it's cool that they're avoiding such trappings.

i don't even like the knife but i think it's an insult to karen dreijer to compare her to some dude mumbling lazy raps & then screwing his voice

Why? Because she's detached and creepy on purpose and these dudes are detached and creepy because that's how they are IRL?

in a sonic sense i still dig it, but conceptually it's indefensible afaic

XP to WW: Hang on, I thought we were all hipsters now?

They look like horrible fucking scrotes to me Salem, but so were, y'know, Joy Division, PiL, The Fall etc. They look like horrible bratty hipsters messing about with stuff they didn't fully understand to me but so were, y'know, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Velvet Underground etc.

Anyway, so one of my writers got back from spending a few days with them outside of Chicago and said, no, actually, I was dead wrong, they're pretty decent people. Dude with long hair started crying during the interview about the Butt magazine interview, said he really regrets it but was quite 'ill' at the time. He said they seem like very sensitive, very insular people who've got a very fixed vision of what they want to sound like. (Which for me is the main point, given that they do have a pretty unique sound - apart from people like oOoOOO who have just ripped them off mercilessly.)

I mean obviously, when you met them Whiney, your experience was quite different. How were they? Maybe you caught them on a bad day. I don't really get the Al Jolson thing either... don't you think hip hop as a 30 year old monolithic institution can withstand some arty, drug addled, middle class white kids messing about with some of it's minor offshoots on the periphery?

(This is all by the by... they live in some white picket fence neighbourhood with stars and bars over every door... if they'd been camped out on the river Styx nailing babies to crosses or reading off a script written for them by some guy at American Apparel... I dunno, I'm never going to meet them... why does it matter?)

http://i56.tinypic.com/f36iox.jpg

uh i don't think it's about whether or not hip hop can 'withstand' salem, it's whether the music is reprehensible or not

Why? Because she's detached and creepy on purpose and these dudes are detached and creepy because that's how they are IRL?

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is about as reductive as you could possibly be an attempt to somehow level salem with the knife, congratulations

Define reprehensible in this context.

Dude with long hair started crying during the interview about the Butt magazine interview, said he really regrets it but was quite 'ill' at the time.

Good lord, everything IS emo.

All music is reprehensible to someone given that it means open to criticism.

everybody loves Tapes n Tapes

Define reprehensible in this context.

― Duran (Doran), Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

how about "an act that is clearly racially exploitative"

How is it clearly racially exploitative? I don't get what you're talking about.

well i think it's really boring music -- beats are aight but they're pretty dime a dozen, the raps are... i mean, i don't see what the salem dude brings with his screw rap that actual screwed music doesn't -- even w/o comparing salem to the shit that it's copping from, there's nothing really interesting aside from maybe 'mood' -- they lyrics aren't 'good' & neither are the hooks

reprehensible in the fact that the performance posted above makes it seem like they're pretty much doing blackface, altho it's not really all that offensive more just rolling my damn eyes

Markers: I'd say that Creedence are my exception to this rule.

lol

mood

ding ding

Jordan: Right, I get what you're saying and I appreciate it. I just don't get all this wailing and hysterical gnashing of the teeth that's going on elsewhere like we're dealing with Burzum fronting Skrewdriver.

How about a little perspective!?

like, i didn't realize dude was doing his own shitty rapping and had just assumed it was some hollertronix style theft which, while suspect in its own right, is nowhere near the level of dude appropriating southern rap slang and a fake accent and digitally creating ~A BLACK VOICE~ for his vague non-rapping

buncha xps

but like, if you dig the 'mood' of salem, actual screw music is soooo much more emotionally resonant & evocative of loneliness & sadness & all that then this stuf

big hoos big otm

actual screw music

artist name I could check out?

dude the difference is that sxsw and the fader and levi's and whoever are NOT PUSHING BURZUM FRONTING SKREWDRIVER

marketing opportunity

this is my fave screwed song ever, markers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvF8uqEum6s

i mean i'm sure they're nice guys & it seems like they have really good taste in music (side note: the BUTT interviewer doing an interview for a GAY MAGAZINE and then being all "WAIT YOU REALLY LIKE MARIAH CAREY????" was really retarded), but i don't think that their music is actually all that good

& it's NOT an authenticity thing -- their gucci mane remixes >>>>>>>> all original salem joints, becuase gucci mane >>>>>>> anyone in salem as an artist

ksh:

Which DJ Screw cd is worth buying?