bleakest album:
Peter Sotos "Buyer's Market"
it's a collage/cut-up of personal, first hand testimony sourced from mainstream TV, radio and documentaries in which victims of abuse talk about being sexually molested, raped, exploited; prostitutes describe violent and awful experiences; crying children narrate their own sexual abuse; and family members sob about the torture and murder of their loved ones.
what makes it especially disturbing is the way that the collation/editing/presentation of it seems to conjure up the question of whether or not it is used by Peter Sotos to get off on these descriptions of violence and cruelty, and in order to work that out, your own imagination gets fired up with "would this thing turn me on if I was some kind of pedophile creep?", and *that very structure of vicarious participation* is, I think, what the record is supposed to be about- the "Buyer's Market" is the mainstream media feeding frenzy for authenticity/realness, hypocritically tsk-tsk-ing about the very atrocities it serves up
and yet (and here's the second twist) the claim that this record is about media seems like a convenient pseudo-intellectual / falsely "critical" fig-leaf to cover up a pretty basic and super fucked up enjoyment in other people describing pretty unimaginably horrific experiences.
So, i would say, hands down, this is the darkest/hardest-to-listen-to record I own.
You feel disgusted with yourself after you listen to it, like you need a shower or something.
― the tune is space, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
rammstein
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, just noticed that thread title is "music you like", not "record you own"
diff question.
I'd say the darkest *music* would be:
Brainbombs "Urge to Kill" Sutcliffe Jugend "When Pornography Is No Longer Enough"
which take the Sotos-style scenarios of rape, murder, molestation, kidnapping and abuse and set them to heavy post-Stooges psych rock (Brianbombs) and Whitehouse-style power electronics (Sutcliffe Juged) respectively. They are both *great* as completely demanding, powerful, un-ignorable musical experiences. and yet also beg a lot of the same questions of intent / moral complicity / false-critique that the Sotos does, while actually being, you know, "music".
― the tune is space, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I would like to say something obscure and hip but realistically it's just Slayer.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahaha thank god you've allowed me to retract that rather stupid joke - would listen to those records! my favourite foetus song is narrated from a paedophile's POV - sometimes this stuff is highly compelling psychological engagement rather than exploitative trash
xp
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
my actual answer to this question? tough - would probably say something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0qaIzaYDc
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkh2W0Le4Mo
^^^^^^^so, so, so, so, so, so good
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
ARGH here's a version that DOESN'T chop off the last 30 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBHnJNEbNZw
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Xasthur can play too but I'm not linking any of his stuff tonight.
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Carcass, Esoteric, Harvey Milk, dälek, Nattens madrigal
― Brad C., Monday, 20 September 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
ok I really like three of those and would probably dig the other two so yeah that post can be added to my own tentative list
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
dälek is probably my favourite discovery of 2010 and their stuff kills like little else...esoteric's last album was a terrifying, overwhelming blinder, nattens madrigal is fury on tape
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Harvey Milk are probably mine too.
― Neil S, Monday, 20 September 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link