THE REAL SCARFACE ALBUMS POLL, VOTE IN THIS IF YOU ARE NOT A POSEUR

if Dopeman Music was packaged and promoted the same way as Made and Emeritus nobody would go "hey this sounds more like a mixtape than an album!"

I haven't heard dopeman music yet. any good?

it's pretty good, not especially great but worth hearing

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

38 participants is better but honestly 'Face makes such outstanding music I'm still disappointed. still...at least he's two voters stronger than the Siouxsie & the Banshees album poll now, so we're making progress

still corny that the def jam partly kanye-produced record won but what r u gonna do

at least its a good record (still. if you voted that & havent heard his first two....)

Yaaaaaaaawn

― t(o_o)t it and b(o_o)t it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, September 17, 2010 1:01 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Rooooong

i never saw this? weird

has anyone heard Dopeman Music yet besides shiplo? think it's been sitting on my harddrive unzipped since release but i must not wanna hear it for some reason

― zvookster, Sunday, September 5, 2010 4:03 PM (1 week ago)

yeah this was quality, def one of the best mixtapes of the year (it's pretty much an album tho)

my fave long song to w33d that isn't "sweet leaf":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz42nWqBKwQ

Cool, deej, I'll junp on board your "mixtapes ARE albums" bandwagon once we start letting them have a critical shelf life of longer than nine months unless it's lil wayne.

wow youre an idiot

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/djmixtapez/pub/9002/2pac---Rap-Phenomenon-2.jpg

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/djmixtapez/pub/9002/Trap-or-Die.jpg

http://www.regaltenant.net/product_images/c/935/2pac_rapphenom__94422_zoom.jpg

fucking tradebit.com

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000JYWF3C.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

i know you only listen to rap when its ego trip approved whiney but there are tons of classic mixtapes -- what a load of crap

http://mixunit.com/ProductImages/cdalbums/CDAL2036.jpg

http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/b0002vk5gg01_ss500_sclzzzzzzz_v1125403160_.jpg

whiney what kind of retarded ass statement is that

still corny that the def jam partly kanye-produced record won but what r u gonna do

dude this btw is why you will always be indie rock deej to me whether you listen to indie rock or not. you may not dig the jams but the ideology is u to a T my friend and game recognize game ok. because going out of one's way to try and position one's taste somehow above the fix just because it's kanye-produced is indie-ism at its most pernicious. you know why people voted the fix? because it's a fucking awesome, solid album with great lyrics & performances & rad grooves, and fretting about about whether kanye produced it makes you mr.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jWkmcNTRKFc/Swk62VUScoI/AAAAAAAAB84/ujpIFSQdQoE/s1600/nothing.gif

"dude this btw is why you will always be indie rock deej to me whether you listen to indie rock or not. you may not dig the jams but the ideology is u to a T my friend and game recognize game ok."

thats bullshit dude this attitude is as old as time and permeates all genres

"oh yes, I don't really go in for Reasonable Doubt...more of a 'Hawaiian Sophie' man myself"

deej you know that "indie rock deej" is hilarious enough to merit you changing your screenname to it for at least three posts

do the right thing man

except that 'liking the better stuff' is sorta the attitude of 'discerning person' not 'indie rock guys'

:p

which is harder: picking your favorite scarface album, or deciding whether deej or whiney has been the worst in this thread?

you down with I.R.D.? yeah, you know me

i never said anything like 'only lil wayne mixtapes are classic' or w/e

yeah that is true

id'ing oneself as "discerning" for having an opinion that differs with the popular opinion...jeez, what kinda music to cats who cop this attitude often enjoy...answers on a postcard to indie rock j0hn

xp fair enuf on the wayne tapes remark but you really do have a lot of the indieism about you man, take it from me, I run that block

only whiney would sit around all day complaining about rock critics and then say something like "mixtapes aren't albums because critics don't remember them after 9 months"

"id'ing oneself as "discerning" for having an opinion that differs with the popular opinion...jeez, what kinda music to cats who cop this attitude often enjoy...answers on a postcard to indie rock j0hn"

the popular opinion ... on ilx, not neccessarily among scarface fans specifically or rap fans in gen?

i mean w/e call me 'indie' if u want. imo its kinda treating non-indie ppl as aliens who dont have normal human opinions & anyone whose impulses u recognize from indie becomes indie but w/e

sigh

I never said there weren't classic mixtapes, its just that the inner rockist in me is consistently frustrated at how ephemeral they are.

the popular opinion ... on ilx, not neccessarily among scarface fans specifically or rap fans in gen?

lol you have to be kidding. name me one rap head besides yourself whose first reaction on hearing the fix mentioned is anything other than "classic album, no questions" instead of something about how it's corny for people to dig it. everybody who's ever loved rap knows this album is all time. only dudes with Heart of Malkmus are gonna get all "sniff sniff, oh no, kanye west, can't have that" about the fix winning a scarface poll. how many mics did it get deej? any critics of note you can name who think it's anything less than classic?

its a totally diff argument, and I shouldnt have taken it out on mixtapes ion general

whiney mixtapes called they are v. pissed @ you...squash that beef before it gets out of hand

whiney and deej could find an excuse to fight in a thread called "ITT WE TELL EVERYONE HOW MUCH WE LUV DEM"

if it makes you feel better I just bought a couple more scarface tracks b/c of thread

ol you have to be kidding. name me one rap head besides yourself whose first reaction on hearing the fix mentioned is anything other than "classic album, no questions" instead of something about how it's corny for people to dig it. everybody who's ever loved rap knows this album is all time. only dudes with Heart of Malkmus are gonna get all "sniff sniff, oh no, kanye west, can't have that" about the fix winning a scarface poll. how many mics did it get deej? any critics of note you can name who think it's anything less than classic?

― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:03 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

...but i dont think its less than classic either? & yes i absolutely know rap heads who will be like "but its really kinda overrated compared to diary or his first record" -- thats not exactly totally out there dude.

i mean u want actual names of ppl?

no no dudes derailing yet another thread where whiney & j0hn get a boner for 'proving' that im SECRETLY INDIE is way more fun than talking about scarface

I want names, addresses, and SSNs of all people whose opinions you cite

and preferred email address

classic thread

no no dudes derailing yet another thread where whiney & j0hn get a boner for 'proving' that im SECRETLY INDIE is way more fun than talking about scarface

the secret's out!

has it been established that aerosmith indeed had a boner

poll results OTM

http://www.harpercollins.com/9780062302632/diary-of-a-madman

About the Book

From Geto Boys legend and renowned storyteller Scarface, comes a passionate memoir about how hip-hop changed the life of a kid from the south side of Houston, and how he rose to the top-and ushered in a new generation of rap dominance. 
Scarface is the celebrated rapper whose hits include "On My Block," "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" and "Damn It Feels Good to be a Gangsta" (made famous in the cult film Office Space). The former president of Def Jam South, he's collaborated with everyone from Kanye West, Ice Cube and Nas, and had many solo hits such as "Guess Who's Back" feat. Jay-Z and "Smile" feat. Tupac. But before that, he was a kid from Houston in love with rock-and-roll, listening to AC/DC and KISS.


In Diary of a Madman, Scarface shares how his world changed when he heard Run DMC for the first time; how he dropped out of school in the ninth grade and started selling crack; and how he began rapping as the new form of music made its way out of New York and across the country. It is the account of his rise to the heights of the rap world, as well as his battles with his own demons and depression. Passionately exploring and explaining the roots and influences of rap culture, Diary of a Madman is the story of hip-hop-the music, the business, the streets, and life on the south side Houston, Texas.



Cool, deej, I'll junp on board your "mixtapes ARE albums" bandwagon once we start letting them have a critical shelf life of longer than nine months unless it's lil wayne.

― kenanpolaris (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Lol

man the hissy fit in the middle of this thread is lol

scarface was on the nightly show the other night and he was ... odd. made a left-field analogy comparing the Baltimore water company and residents who can't pay their bills to hawks/squirrels, then refused to answer the "keep it 100" question. also wore a backpack the entire time.

<3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Czdg8e8UX4

jumping between reading "Diary of a Madman" and Dylan "Chronicles"

interesting that Face also considers the Fix his best album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8WQvmEjjN0

such a thrill in this day and age to suddenly stumble on an unexpected scarface guest verse

Scarface recently came very close to winning a Houston City Council seat, sadly losing in the runoff election.

face/run/off