THE REAL SCARFACE ALBUMS POLL, VOTE IN THIS IF YOU ARE NOT A POSEUR

the diary but the fix is close imo

i'm only gonna listen to scarface today :D

so why you trying to kick some dust up
america's always been known blaming us niggas for they fuck ups
and we were always considered evil
now they trying to bust our only code of communicating with our people

my homies is also classic just because it has 'fuck faces' on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUhu5BUOKg

yeah this is basically top 5 all time for me

these are all good and i think i said this on another thread but the fix gets the edge for the 'sellout' beat, that thing is massive and one of my fav beats ever

i've only heard three or four of these and now think i need to change that. the fix

man, each of these tracks stand with the best of each respective collaborator's discogs, imo:

"smile" ft. 2-pac
"house of the dead body" ft. ice cube
"guess who's back" ft. jay-z

"house of the dead body" ft. ice cube (doug lazy remix)

listening to the untouchable right now and this album is really underrated. love the production. so smooth.

lol @ writing "house" of the dead body btw. once a videogame nerd, always a videogame nerd.

dude its basically an album thats stupid logic

--you cant see me markers (deej)

Yaaaaaaaawn

ey Statler and Waldorf, not in my thread ya don't!

The Diary

if Dopeman Music was packaged and promoted the same way as Made and Emeritus nobody would go "hey this sounds more like a mixtape than an album!"

I haven't heard dopeman music yet. any good?

it's pretty good, not especially great but worth hearing

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

38 participants is better but honestly 'Face makes such outstanding music I'm still disappointed. still...at least he's two voters stronger than the Siouxsie & the Banshees album poll now, so we're making progress

still corny that the def jam partly kanye-produced record won but what r u gonna do

at least its a good record (still. if you voted that & havent heard his first two....)

Yaaaaaaaawn

― t(o_o)t it and b(o_o)t it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, September 17, 2010 1:01 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Rooooong

i never saw this? weird

has anyone heard Dopeman Music yet besides shiplo? think it's been sitting on my harddrive unzipped since release but i must not wanna hear it for some reason

― zvookster, Sunday, September 5, 2010 4:03 PM (1 week ago)

yeah this was quality, def one of the best mixtapes of the year (it's pretty much an album tho)

my fave long song to w33d that isn't "sweet leaf":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz42nWqBKwQ

Cool, deej, I'll junp on board your "mixtapes ARE albums" bandwagon once we start letting them have a critical shelf life of longer than nine months unless it's lil wayne.

wow youre an idiot

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/djmixtapez/pub/9002/2pac---Rap-Phenomenon-2.jpg

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/djmixtapez/pub/9002/Trap-or-Die.jpg

http://www.regaltenant.net/product_images/c/935/2pac_rapphenom__94422_zoom.jpg

fucking tradebit.com

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000JYWF3C.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

i know you only listen to rap when its ego trip approved whiney but there are tons of classic mixtapes -- what a load of crap

http://mixunit.com/ProductImages/cdalbums/CDAL2036.jpg

http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/b0002vk5gg01_ss500_sclzzzzzzz_v1125403160_.jpg

whiney what kind of retarded ass statement is that

still corny that the def jam partly kanye-produced record won but what r u gonna do

dude this btw is why you will always be indie rock deej to me whether you listen to indie rock or not. you may not dig the jams but the ideology is u to a T my friend and game recognize game ok. because going out of one's way to try and position one's taste somehow above the fix just because it's kanye-produced is indie-ism at its most pernicious. you know why people voted the fix? because it's a fucking awesome, solid album with great lyrics & performances & rad grooves, and fretting about about whether kanye produced it makes you mr.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jWkmcNTRKFc/Swk62VUScoI/AAAAAAAAB84/ujpIFSQdQoE/s1600/nothing.gif

"dude this btw is why you will always be indie rock deej to me whether you listen to indie rock or not. you may not dig the jams but the ideology is u to a T my friend and game recognize game ok."

thats bullshit dude this attitude is as old as time and permeates all genres

"oh yes, I don't really go in for Reasonable Doubt...more of a 'Hawaiian Sophie' man myself"

deej you know that "indie rock deej" is hilarious enough to merit you changing your screenname to it for at least three posts

do the right thing man

except that 'liking the better stuff' is sorta the attitude of 'discerning person' not 'indie rock guys'

:p

which is harder: picking your favorite scarface album, or deciding whether deej or whiney has been the worst in this thread?

you down with I.R.D.? yeah, you know me

i never said anything like 'only lil wayne mixtapes are classic' or w/e

yeah that is true

id'ing oneself as "discerning" for having an opinion that differs with the popular opinion...jeez, what kinda music to cats who cop this attitude often enjoy...answers on a postcard to indie rock j0hn

xp fair enuf on the wayne tapes remark but you really do have a lot of the indieism about you man, take it from me, I run that block

only whiney would sit around all day complaining about rock critics and then say something like "mixtapes aren't albums because critics don't remember them after 9 months"

"id'ing oneself as "discerning" for having an opinion that differs with the popular opinion...jeez, what kinda music to cats who cop this attitude often enjoy...answers on a postcard to indie rock j0hn"

the popular opinion ... on ilx, not neccessarily among scarface fans specifically or rap fans in gen?

i mean w/e call me 'indie' if u want. imo its kinda treating non-indie ppl as aliens who dont have normal human opinions & anyone whose impulses u recognize from indie becomes indie but w/e

sigh

I never said there weren't classic mixtapes, its just that the inner rockist in me is consistently frustrated at how ephemeral they are.

arguing about which of nas' albums post-illmatic is the least shit is a rap nerd argument that's gonna be going on when all of us are dead, isn't it?

this thread is bonkers.

agree w/100%:
I think Scarface's voice is at its most powerful on Diary

basically listened to the untouchable all weekend. the subtle production on it really reminds me of the angle chronic 2001 works. it's so smooth and laid back that it's easy to gloss over the details at first. but there's a lot of depth there and I feel like I hear new things each time I spin it. and it just sounds fucking classy as hell.

90s: One dope album, three unlistenable shit albums
00s: Five pretty solid albums in a row

― the perry bubble fell-off-ship (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 20, 2010 11:25 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is challop b.s.

it was written & i am >>>> anything in the 00s

I love it was written

alright it's hard to even call out deej when I think jordan is implying that nas hasn't had a good album since illmatic

one hot album every ten year average iirc

I've got this killer up inside of me
I can't talk to my mother, so I talk to my diary

face is so goth

i love it

alright it's hard to even call out deej when I think jordan is implying that nas hasn't had a good album since illmatic

― kellspolaris (k3vin k.), Monday, September 20, 2010 4:55 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

um no i'm just tired of reading arguments about which nas albums are actually the bad ones

Last of a Dying Breed is sooooooooooo slept on.

yeah totally. obviously there's a high baseline of quality for pretty much all of his albums, but i think conventional wisdom about their relative quality could really stand to be reevaluated. The World Is Yours and The Untouchable are probably my favorites, Last of a Dying Breed totally doesn't deserve to be forgotten like it has, and The Diary kinda leaves me cold.

man Bun B guest in his prime.....miss that Bun

diary picks up something it needed in the s+c version, the regular one always seems a little too bright-sounding

poll results OTM

http://www.harpercollins.com/9780062302632/diary-of-a-madman

About the Book

From Geto Boys legend and renowned storyteller Scarface, comes a passionate memoir about how hip-hop changed the life of a kid from the south side of Houston, and how he rose to the top-and ushered in a new generation of rap dominance. 
Scarface is the celebrated rapper whose hits include "On My Block," "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" and "Damn It Feels Good to be a Gangsta" (made famous in the cult film Office Space). The former president of Def Jam South, he's collaborated with everyone from Kanye West, Ice Cube and Nas, and had many solo hits such as "Guess Who's Back" feat. Jay-Z and "Smile" feat. Tupac. But before that, he was a kid from Houston in love with rock-and-roll, listening to AC/DC and KISS.


In Diary of a Madman, Scarface shares how his world changed when he heard Run DMC for the first time; how he dropped out of school in the ninth grade and started selling crack; and how he began rapping as the new form of music made its way out of New York and across the country. It is the account of his rise to the heights of the rap world, as well as his battles with his own demons and depression. Passionately exploring and explaining the roots and influences of rap culture, Diary of a Madman is the story of hip-hop-the music, the business, the streets, and life on the south side Houston, Texas.



Cool, deej, I'll junp on board your "mixtapes ARE albums" bandwagon once we start letting them have a critical shelf life of longer than nine months unless it's lil wayne.

― kenanpolaris (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Lol

man the hissy fit in the middle of this thread is lol

scarface was on the nightly show the other night and he was ... odd. made a left-field analogy comparing the Baltimore water company and residents who can't pay their bills to hawks/squirrels, then refused to answer the "keep it 100" question. also wore a backpack the entire time.

<3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Czdg8e8UX4

jumping between reading "Diary of a Madman" and Dylan "Chronicles"

interesting that Face also considers the Fix his best album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8WQvmEjjN0

such a thrill in this day and age to suddenly stumble on an unexpected scarface guest verse

Scarface recently came very close to winning a Houston City Council seat, sadly losing in the runoff election.

face/run/off