THE REAL SCARFACE ALBUMS POLL, VOTE IN THIS IF YOU ARE NOT A POSEUR

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yeah i voted for that...kinda like an extension of grip it! on that other level

board of the living based heads (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 September 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it really fleshes out the Scarface persona (paranoid, suicidal, profane and religious/almost apologetic for this lifestyle) in a way that grip it! and we can't be stopped only did incompletely.

Polish Lightning (Eisbaer), Friday, 17 September 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

90s scarface is generally better than 00's scarface, but i think fix is the most consistent album. GOAT in any case.

Picture me ¯\(°_°)/¯ ing (symsymsym), Friday, 17 September 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I WOULD
NEVER VIOLATE THE CODES OF THE STREETS
AND I WOULD NEVER MAKE A PROMISE THAT I KNOW I COULDN'T KEEP
AND I WOULD
NEVER TESTIFY OR COP OUT FOR A PLEA
OR SURRENDER INFORMATION ON MY BOYS TO THE POLICE
AND YOU COULD
NEVER CATCH ME ON THE BLOCK WITHOUT A STRAP, AND I WOULD
NEVER PULL IT OUT UNLESS I'M BOUTS TO BLACK
AND I COULD NEVER FORGET MY HOMIES DYING FOR THEY SCRATCH
FOREVER POURING OUT LIQUOR FOR THEM, GOD SEND THEM BACK AND I
NEVER SHED TEARS, MY HEART IS LIKE A STONE NOW
NEVER THOUGHT I'D LIVE TO SEE 21, LOOK, I'M GROWN NOW
NEVER SAY "NEVER," THEY TELL ME ALL THE TIME
'CAUSE NEVER MEANS IT'S FOREVER, BUT IT'S NEVER CROSSED MY MIND, AND I'LL
NEVER GO BROKE, I PROMISE I'MA SHINE
NEVER COME SHORT ON MY ISSUE, I'M ON IT EVERY TIME
AND I'LL NEVER BE PASSIVE, YOU BETTER GIVE ME MINE
IT'S MY MONEY, AND I WANT IT, EVERY MOTHERFUCKIN DIME
NEVER FORGOT ALL MY STRUGGLES IN THE PAST AND I COULD
NEVER FORGOT HOW TO HUSTLE FOR MY CASH
AND I WOULD NEVER FORGET HOW I FELT WHEN I SAW BRAD TAKE THAT FIRST BREATH
AND FROM THEN
I KNEW I HAD TO MASH
AND IT COULD
NEVER BE SAID I WENT OUT LIKE A HO
NEVER BEEN PUNKED, I'LL NEVER LET IT SLIDE, NEVER LET IT GO
NEVER EVER, NEVER EVER EVER, NO
GET ON MY LEVEL HO
OR GO GET A SHOVEL, HO

aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Mr. Scarface Is Back, no question for me

let's have a toast for the cumlords (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

but dude's is hands down one of the most consistent runs of music in the history of hip-hop. Almost all classics.

let's have a toast for the cumlords (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I finally got Made and even that one's pretty awesome. and yea, Mr. Scarface is back is very different in tone from his later work, which is kind of cool.

Diary still wins for me, though The Fix is really good too.

turn in yer badge (San Te), Friday, 17 September 2010 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i am a poseur. i've heard two of these. :-(

The Reverend, Friday, 17 September 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i've only heard 4 of em

turn in yer badge (San Te), Friday, 17 September 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link

heard 8 out of 12 of these

t(o_o)t it and b(o_o)t it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 September 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

but fuck a mixtape being on this list anyways

t(o_o)t it and b(o_o)t it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 September 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

dude its basically an album thats stupid logic

that said, not a v good one

you cant see me markers (deej), Friday, 17 September 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

the diary but the fix is close imo

i'm only gonna listen to scarface today :D

i feed these skreets (tpp), Friday, 17 September 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

so why you trying to kick some dust up
america's always been known blaming us niggas for they fuck ups
and we were always considered evil
now they trying to bust our only code of communicating with our people

i feed these skreets (tpp), Friday, 17 September 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

my homies is also classic just because it has 'fuck faces' on it

i feed these skreets (tpp), Friday, 17 September 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUhu5BUOKg

yeah this is basically top 5 all time for me

you cant see me markers (deej), Friday, 17 September 2010 12:27 (thirteen years ago) link

these are all good and i think i said this on another thread but the fix gets the edge for the 'sellout' beat, that thing is massive and one of my fav beats ever

ciderpress, Friday, 17 September 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i've only heard three or four of these and now think i need to change that. the fix

a hoy hoy, Friday, 17 September 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

man, each of these tracks stand with the best of each respective collaborator's discogs, imo:

"smile" ft. 2-pac
"house of the dead body" ft. ice cube
"guess who's back" ft. jay-z

original bgm, Friday, 17 September 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"house of the dead body" ft. ice cube (doug lazy remix)

rawkan the chief (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 September 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to the untouchable right now and this album is really underrated. love the production. so smooth.

original bgm, Friday, 17 September 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ writing "house" of the dead body btw. once a videogame nerd, always a videogame nerd.

original bgm, Friday, 17 September 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

dude its basically an album thats stupid logic

--you cant see me markers (deej)

Yaaaaaaaawn

t(o_o)t it and b(o_o)t it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 September 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

ey Statler and Waldorf, not in my thread ya don't!

turn in yer badge (San Te), Friday, 17 September 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The Diary

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 September 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

if Dopeman Music was packaged and promoted the same way as Made and Emeritus nobody would go "hey this sounds more like a mixtape than an album!"

some dude, Friday, 17 September 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't heard dopeman music yet. any good?

i feed these skreets (tpp), Friday, 17 September 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

it's pretty good, not especially great but worth hearing

some dude, Friday, 17 September 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 17 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

38 participants is better but honestly 'Face makes such outstanding music I'm still disappointed. still...at least he's two voters stronger than the Siouxsie & the Banshees album poll now, so we're making progress

aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 17 September 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

still corny that the def jam partly kanye-produced record won but what r u gonna do

you cant see me markers (deej), Friday, 17 September 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

at least its a good record (still. if you voted that & havent heard his first two....)

you cant see me markers (deej), Friday, 17 September 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Yaaaaaaaawn

― t(o_o)t it and b(o_o)t it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, September 17, 2010 1:01 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Rooooong

you cant see me markers (deej), Friday, 17 September 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i never saw this? weird

has anyone heard Dopeman Music yet besides shiplo? think it's been sitting on my harddrive unzipped since release but i must not wanna hear it for some reason

― zvookster, Sunday, September 5, 2010 4:03 PM (1 week ago)

yeah this was quality, def one of the best mixtapes of the year (it's pretty much an album tho)

k3vin k., Friday, 17 September 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

my fave long song to w33d that isn't "sweet leaf":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz42nWqBKwQ

original bgm, Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool, deej, I'll junp on board your "mixtapes ARE albums" bandwagon once we start letting them have a critical shelf life of longer than nine months unless it's lil wayne.

kenanpolaris (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

wow youre an idiot

you cant see me markers (deej), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

fucking tradebit.com

you cant see me markers (deej), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i know you only listen to rap when its ego trip approved whiney but there are tons of classic mixtapes -- what a load of crap

you cant see me markers (deej), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

http://mixunit.com/ProductImages/cdalbums/CDAL2036.jpg

you cant see me markers (deej), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

whiney what kind of retarded ass statement is that

J0rdan S., Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

still corny that the def jam partly kanye-produced record won but what r u gonna do

dude this btw is why you will always be indie rock deej to me whether you listen to indie rock or not. you may not dig the jams but the ideology is u to a T my friend and game recognize game ok. because going out of one's way to try and position one's taste somehow above the fix just because it's kanye-produced is indie-ism at its most pernicious. you know why people voted the fix? because it's a fucking awesome, solid album with great lyrics & performances & rad grooves, and fretting about about whether kanye produced it makes you mr.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jWkmcNTRKFc/Swk62VUScoI/AAAAAAAAB84/ujpIFSQdQoE/s1600/nothing.gif

aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

"dude this btw is why you will always be indie rock deej to me whether you listen to indie rock or not. you may not dig the jams but the ideology is u to a T my friend and game recognize game ok."

thats bullshit dude this attitude is as old as time and permeates all genres

you cant see me markers (deej), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

"oh yes, I don't really go in for Reasonable Doubt...more of a 'Hawaiian Sophie' man myself"

aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

deej you know that "indie rock deej" is hilarious enough to merit you changing your screenname to it for at least three posts

do the right thing man

aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 18 September 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i kinda always love nas being nas, like manny being manny

rawkan the chief (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

00s Nas > 90s Nas by a longshot

the perry bubble fell-off-ship (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

last real challopser alive, that's official^

rawkan the chief (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

haha if you take out illmatic it's close but yeah dude's been pretty consistent

kellspolaris (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

90s: One dope album, three unlistenable shit albums
00s: Five pretty solid albums in a row

the perry bubble fell-off-ship (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

see i love it was written a TON (my challops is i like it almost as much as illmatic)

rawkan the chief (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i personally can't stand a lot of nas' 00's output in particular that pseudo-historical/intellectual bullshit thing he does

i feed these skreets (tpp), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

yea but he mostly does that on his s/t and Stillmatic, and even then on the latter it doesn't comprise the entire album. Besides, even if he's misguided on many things, I admire him for at least reaching beyond the standard base rap topics.

(I still LOL at him for thinking William Cooper was some kind of martyr and not just a complete lunatic).

turn in yer badge (San Te), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't heard Nastradamus or I am, but I like It was Written a lot. Still, though, God's Son and Stillmatic are top notch for me, and I really like all of his 00's output, to varying degrees.

so I'd say it was a valid point.

turn in yer badge (San Te), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

his verse on 'in between us' is totally classic actually

i feed these skreets (tpp), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

iww is better than any album he's released since

flaccid house (The Reverend), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

It is underrated, that's for sure. I mean it did get critical recognition but gets hated on in way too many circles.

turn in yer badge (San Te), Monday, 20 September 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

arguing about which of nas' albums post-illmatic is the least shit is a rap nerd argument that's gonna be going on when all of us are dead, isn't it?

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread is bonkers.

agree w/100%:
I think Scarface's voice is at its most powerful on Diary

basically listened to the untouchable all weekend. the subtle production on it really reminds me of the angle chronic 2001 works. it's so smooth and laid back that it's easy to gloss over the details at first. but there's a lot of depth there and I feel like I hear new things each time I spin it. and it just sounds fucking classy as hell.

original bgm, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

90s: One dope album, three unlistenable shit albums
00s: Five pretty solid albums in a row

― the perry bubble fell-off-ship (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 20, 2010 11:25 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is challop b.s.

if you can put a ceiling fan in your van (deej), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

it was written & i am >>>> anything in the 00s

if you can put a ceiling fan in your van (deej), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I love it was written

original bgm, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

alright it's hard to even call out deej when I think jordan is implying that nas hasn't had a good album since illmatic

kellspolaris (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

one hot album every ten year average iirc

samosa gibreel, Monday, 20 September 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I've got this killer up inside of me
I can't talk to my mother, so I talk to my diary

face is so goth

i love it

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

alright it's hard to even call out deej when I think jordan is implying that nas hasn't had a good album since illmatic

― kellspolaris (k3vin k.), Monday, September 20, 2010 4:55 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

um no i'm just tired of reading arguments about which nas albums are actually the bad ones

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Last of a Dying Breed is sooooooooooo slept on.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 August 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

yeah totally. obviously there's a high baseline of quality for pretty much all of his albums, but i think conventional wisdom about their relative quality could really stand to be reevaluated. The World Is Yours and The Untouchable are probably my favorites, Last of a Dying Breed totally doesn't deserve to be forgotten like it has, and The Diary kinda leaves me cold.

some dude, Saturday, 10 August 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link

man Bun B guest in his prime.....miss that Bun

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 August 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

diary picks up something it needed in the s+c version, the regular one always seems a little too bright-sounding

j., Saturday, 10 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

poll results OTM

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://www.harpercollins.com/9780062302632/diary-of-a-madman

About the Book

From Geto Boys legend and renowned storyteller Scarface, comes a passionate memoir about how hip-hop changed the life of a kid from the south side of Houston, and how he rose to the top-and ushered in a new generation of rap dominance. 
Scarface is the celebrated rapper whose hits include "On My Block," "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" and "Damn It Feels Good to be a Gangsta" (made famous in the cult film Office Space). The former president of Def Jam South, he's collaborated with everyone from Kanye West, Ice Cube and Nas, and had many solo hits such as "Guess Who's Back" feat. Jay-Z and "Smile" feat. Tupac. But before that, he was a kid from Houston in love with rock-and-roll, listening to AC/DC and KISS.


In Diary of a Madman, Scarface shares how his world changed when he heard Run DMC for the first time; how he dropped out of school in the ninth grade and started selling crack; and how he began rapping as the new form of music made its way out of New York and across the country. It is the account of his rise to the heights of the rap world, as well as his battles with his own demons and depression. Passionately exploring and explaining the roots and influences of rap culture, Diary of a Madman is the story of hip-hop-the music, the business, the streets, and life on the south side Houston, Texas.



j., Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link

Cool, deej, I'll junp on board your "mixtapes ARE albums" bandwagon once we start letting them have a critical shelf life of longer than nine months unless it's lil wayne.

― kenanpolaris (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Lol

deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link

man the hissy fit in the middle of this thread is lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

scarface was on the nightly show the other night and he was ... odd. made a left-field analogy comparing the Baltimore water company and residents who can't pay their bills to hawks/squirrels, then refused to answer the "keep it 100" question. also wore a backpack the entire time.

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 April 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

<3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Czdg8e8UX4

Spottie, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

jumping between reading "Diary of a Madman" and Dylan "Chronicles"

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 October 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

interesting that Face also considers the Fix his best album

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8WQvmEjjN0

such a thrill in this day and age to suddenly stumble on an unexpected scarface guest verse

j., Friday, 27 December 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link

Scarface recently came very close to winning a Houston City Council seat, sadly losing in the runoff election.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 December 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

face/run/off

brought a kiss to the knife fight (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 December 2019 07:55 (four years ago) link


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