New Apple Lust Objects

"back to my mac" let's you remote access files from a local computer, unlike .mac storage which is a network storage thingy

still not enough to get me to renew my recently expired .mac

no chance. Plus you'd be leaving your mac on all the time, and my upload speed is bollocks.

supposedly there was some google/.mac hybrid to be announced, we shall see

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Any chance Leopard goes up for pre-orders today?

I wouldn't buy until 10.5.1 anyway

If Steve brought out a big pot of Kool Aid andd told everyone at WWDC to drink, would they?

Safari on Windows .. let's see!

Is Safari functionally superior to Firefox in any way?

I use Safari, but only because it's what I've used ever since I got a Mac.

It is on the Mac. Apple are claiming it's faster than FF, but there's no proper extensions for it either.

"One more thing..."

OMG SAFARI ON WINDOWS
^ zzzzzzzzzzz

In some respects, it's way worse -- like rich text controls. Google Talk doesn't work with it either.

bah, not if you know how to configure ff properly, or just dl FasterFox

It is on the Mac on newer hardware. For a lot of stuff, Firefox is faster on everything other than startup speed on older mac hardware.

xxpost

BTW, both the newer version of Firefox and the newer Safari have greatly improved text rendering and other assorted stuff.

They're gonna bundle it with iTunes I bet. that's bullshit.

yeah the google talk not working on safari thing is ridiculous

xpost

It already is, in effect, how do you think the iTunes store works on windows?

surely there's something more than the iPhone to talk about

They don't have to bundle, they just make it an option on that Apple Software Update they rolled out to everyone who installs iTunes or Quicktime now.

Yeh, but not as an end-user app. There was mumping about not being able to dl standalone Quicktime easily when they bundled it with iTunes, adding Safari would just have made it worse (if it was happening, which it looks like it isn't)
xpost

In some respects, it's way worse -- like rich text controls. Google Talk doesn't work with it either.

HAVE YOU TRIED WEBKIT?

Freestanding quicktime has always been there, just not very obviously.

I expected that on the iPhone front. Widgets, essentially.

Haha, I feel better about buying a new nokia last month... no actual developer API, just write web pages! Hopefully you can have multiple browser sessions open on the iPhone.

HAVE YOU TRIED WEBKIT?
Yes. and it crashed and didn't work with keychain. And I didn't care enough to wait for the next build.

xp they'll have them like dashboard widgets, with icons on the launcher etc.

Safari for Windows == anyone can test their web app for iPhone compatability regardless of PC platform.

TOMBOT:APPLE = ME:NOKIA

Safari for Windows is also a cheap swipe at MSIE's marketshare.

I thought you used to have a Nokia? I'm iffy on the memory and speed but I like the N73 so far.

"Head of Apple iPhone software had some trouble typing with the iPhone on-screen keyboard."

Yes, I am eagerly anticipating Americans' fat fingers on the iPhone screen.

BTW, are they seriously demoing an old-fashioned web app that's just calling a remote page that sends back results of an LDAP query? WTF.

firefox on windows is a buggy, memory-hogging mess, maybe safari will be better, I doubt it though

I tihnk the point is to show you being able to dial out from the app and get address with maps app etc xpost

If they have some API for letting webapps do stuff offline, I can get behind AJAXy iPhone.

ok that was a hefty yawn of a keynote. why even bother closign apple store?

haha, no shit, maybe it uses the yet unreleased GOOGLE GEARS FOR SAFARI, wait, that would assume they're as coordinated with Google as the conspiracy nuts think

I tihnk the point is to show you being able to dial out from the app and get address with maps app etc xpost

otm... I wonder if they have a special url spec for this?

Of course, now to pour over connect.apple.com when it reopens

I wonder if "looks just like built-in apps" means they won't mind if I jack all their webpage graphics, or if they're going to release them for free/restricted use

ooh safari betas for mac and pc are up

http://www.apple.com/safari/

just appeared

(er x-post obv)

safari beta link takes me to the downloader for Safari 1.2

ha ha, the sidebar on it isn't rendering properly (on my safari that is)

fixed now

How does that work then? The last keynote they were wanging on about how Live Find used Core Animation and depended on Leopard etc

http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ options:

Safari for Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
Safari+QuickTime for Windows XP or Vista
Safari for Windows XP or Vista

http://www.apple.com/safari/download/plugins.html

wait that's fucking it?

I don't get the Windows download option yet, either. I think Apple's server farm is halfway through the page rollout and is shitting a brick.