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tell me where it speaks about the music, let alone speaks about the music in a way that isn't hamfisted and plug-eared

'it's all just a big horrible mess of styles thrown together!!!1' = 'i did not listen to the album'

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, i read that review and thought "wow, lj must love this band"

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

actually I might have to check this band out off the strength of that review -- Dismemberment Plan got a crash course in Pro Tools and a record deal with Fueled By Ramen sounds kinda awesome (well-established meaninglessness of invoking 'ProTools' as an aesthetic aside)

the mid- '80s vein of hellmusic we love to hate (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

tell me where it speaks about the music, let alone speaks about the music in a way that isn't hamfisted and plug-eared

'it's all just a big horrible mess of styles thrown together!!!1' = 'i did not listen to the album'

― acoleuthic, Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i was about to post that he describes the music accurately

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

would describe it as 'strong like' rather than 'love' - they've got great songs but they're mired in tasteful indie sonics

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

The first 10 or so seconds of this record is pretty much the only span with any negative space-- and even that resembles the obelisk-staring intro of Coldplay's "Square One". From there on, Man Alive is jacked up with bizarre key changes, superfluous time-signature switches, electro noodling, and half-rap lyrics delivered in run-on melodies

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

^^this sounds like a good description of some music

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

From there on, Man Alive is jacked up with bizarre key changes, superfluous time-signature switches, electro noodling, and half-rap lyrics delivered in run-on melodies, and you ultimately think, "hey, what would happen if Dismemberment Plan got a crash course in Pro Tools and a record deal with Fueled By Ramen?" Everything Everything aren't afraid to answer those tough questions.

i have no idea what fueled by ramen is, but listening to these bros, they do just change tim-sig for no reason whatever

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

he doesn't mention that there are two very pretty ambient electro workouts, but then he wouldn't - he hasn't heard the album

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

fueled by ramen is a punk/emo label iirc

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

did he even go to the same gig as me?

xpost

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

bizarre key changes, superfluous time-signature switches, electro noodling, and half-rap lyrics delivered in run-on melodies

yes but you haven't said whether this works or not you clueless buffoon. you haven't said whether EE make it work for themselves with their songwriting. what you've done is wildly overplay some of the music's more outre tendencies, slap the poisonous signifiers 'bizarre' and 'superfluous' (maybe they're logical and necessary for what EE are trying to do!) on top and assume we'll agree because we KNOW what good music is because Pitchfork fucking told us what good music was

fuck you

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to song "Photoshop Handsome"; this isn't nearly as weird or annoying as the review makes it sound. guy's voice isn't that bad. I wish it rocked a lil more tho

the mid- '80s vein of hellmusic we love to hate (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

wrong thread

markers, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

there really aren't that many time-sig changes, and the melodies, IMO, are lovely

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

fueled by ramen = fallout boy, panic! at the disco, etc. I think I like those bands better than these dudes sadly

the mid- '80s vein of hellmusic we love to hate (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

'it's all just a big horrible mess of styles thrown together!!!1' = 'i did not listen to the album'

'i listened to the album and it's all just a big horrible mess of styles thrown together!!!1'

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

bizarre key changes, superfluous time-signature switches, electro noodling, and half-rap lyrics delivered in run-on melodies

yes but you haven't said whether this works or not you clueless buffoon.

just fyi "bizarre" "superfluous" "noodling" and "run-on" are pretty significant clues as to dude's attitude over whether it works or not

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

slap the poisonous signifiers 'bizarre' and 'superfluous' (maybe they're logical and necessary for what EE are trying to do!) on top and assume we'll agree because we KNOW what good music is because Pitchfork fucking told us what good music was

riiiiiiight. so if he's subbed 'logical' and 'necessary' for 'bizarre' and 'superfluous' that would be ok because... it's what EE is trying to do! it's sort of within the critic's remit to have an opinion.

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

ie it's pretty clear that he thinks the band does not make these ideas work for them

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

only 'superfluous' is outright negative, and he needs to give examples

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

also assuming that "you hate new British music" is aimed at the summary description on the front page: the band's Britishness isn't really addressed in the actual review at all, and I'm guessing an editor wrote the capsule review

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

alright fine i'm gonna listen to a song by these jokers

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

no I didn't see the capsule - I'm basing this on how Pitchfork have treated all but the most tasteful British indie from the year whatever

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

lj, i listened to track one, and it was kind of ok, and then woah, hey, here is a pointless change in direction -- and now another one

there is something british about it

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't even like this band THAT much! It's more a matter of principle than anything - they're getting dismissed out of hand because they have a bit of ambition, which sometimes works better than at others

tracks 4-10 are where it's at fyi

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the song 'final form' alone shd guarantee the album 6.5 at least

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

my kz, ur bf or whatever:

i hear some really bad transitions and some wtf synth sounds. the guy's voice is ok, the chorus is identifiable and decent. basically everything this song does was done better by wild beasts last year.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

they love uk electronic music (mount kimbie/actress/ramadanman/james blake/joker/everyone else)

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

great thread derail guys

markers, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

jeez don't listen to that one first. this album is badly-sequenced - that one should be buried somewhere in its midst

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

ok which one should i listen to and is it on youtube

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

great thread derail guys

― markers, Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:28 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark

hopefully pitchforkreviewsreviewsbro will weigh in, making it retrospectively relevant

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

at their best they're pretty much up there with Wild Beasts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vIoeaXOJFc

can only find a live version on Youtube

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

great thread derail guys

― markers, Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:28 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol because people are actually talking about music?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the thread for PRR dipshit

markers, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe we need a "Pitchfork Reviews Reviews Reviews" thread for reviews of Pitchfork Reviews Reviews.

Drastic times require what? Drastic measures! Who said that? T (President Keyes), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

smh

markers, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm this one kinda sounds like mid-period radiohead.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but does it remotely scan with that review

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought the review fair, and unlike most p4k reviews, an 'actually readable and intelligent piece of writing'

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

final gambits: photoshop handsome which is a rly pretty pop song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5h2LRvBQ5Q

and 'nasa is on your side' which is like a coldplay song gone right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d5PKHhRhkg

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i mean i don't want to say "pfork guy offtm" based on two songs (one being a live youtube) but they are less annoying than i imagined so

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

re: last two tracks, you'll notice they're both very catchy and contain no baffling time-sig changes, confusing melodies or electro wankery

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i.e. they're much more about songcraft than about all the extraneous shit that Mr Cohen seems to think EE are about

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

wish the guy's voice wasn't completely unlistenable

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

the first of those two isn't great--it's still choppy and i honestly don't understand why they're choosing some of those keyb sounds. the ballad is kinda pretty but his voice does suffer there.

i could give these guys a review in the high 5s.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

and w/that i will turn this thread back over to people who want to discuss an inane personal blog site.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

That guy is a terrible, terrible singer, about as bad as any I've heard.

mc banhammer (Pashmina), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i was gonna say that this wasn't apocalyptically bad or anything but the singing in the chorus is just absurd

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link


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