and it has since been added to my archive of "hip-hop songs known by heart (and regularly rapped acapella in my car since the radio broke in order to keep myself entertained)"
― the mid- '80s vein of hellmusic we love to hate (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link
you've failed me again ilxor.... protect ya neck has cool lyrics and swagger sure, but it doesn't hold shit for peas compared to gold soundz/only shallow/windowlicker. god u guyz suck.
― lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i was born in 86 and never heard it when it came out but i've still known it since at least the late 90s. and even if you aren't a hiphop dude like i was, it gets played all the time at parties and bars. no excuse.
― markers garvey (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I was gonna omg at all the nvr heard juicy ppl but I've nvr heard a pulp song
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
oh never mind, you have heard it haha. misdirected ire.
― markers garvey (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link
think 'mo money mo problems' was my first biggie song but 'juicy' was also pretty inescapable where I grew up
― subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw Juicy on Yo MTV Raps when it still existed fwiw
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf pulp sucks were they like a comedy option
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
juicy vs. juicy juicy juice
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, September 13, 2010 9:11 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i didnt have cable. we watched it on the box. that was his biggest track while he was alive iirc.
― *sets trend* (deej), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i remember the box
― one hood ass geometry teacher (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't even really remember big being alive and i still feel like i was born w/ "juicy" in my head -- i really have no idea how you could have not heard that track
for real
― banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
but yeah the idea of not having heard "juicy" before is kind of crazy to me, seeing as I grew up on BIG/am from Brooklyn/etc.
i remember getting in trouble for rapping along to "one more chance" lol
― one hood ass geometry teacher (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
god the box was so fucking dope
i remember being so sad when mtv2 bought it out
i got in trouble when i was 9 for yellin BEEEYOTCH not realizing it was 'bitch' & just assuming it was thing rappers said
― *sets trend* (deej), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link
when you were 13 and kids started saying "bitch" were you all "Y'ALL SHOULD'VE LISTENED TO ME WHEN I WAS 9. YOU WERE SLEEPING!!!!!!"
― banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
ehhh yr reaching. this was an anecdote about 'beeeyotch'
― *sets trend* (deej), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
heehee
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link
― *sets trend* (deej), Monday, September 13, 2010 10:46 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinklol i remember the box
― one hood ass geometry teacher (The Brainwasher), Monday, September 13, 2010 10:47 PM (35 minutes ago)
at the risk of turning this into another oh mannnn the fuckin box ruled back in the day derail...the fuckin box ruled so hard man
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 September 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i think this goes right into the THREAD DERAILS ABOUT 'THE BOX' canon myself
― banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
:)
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 September 2010 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link
did not have the box :(
― markers garvey (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't have the Box either. I would only see it when we stayed in hotels iirc
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I always thought his biggest song pre-1997 was "Big Poppa."
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't specifically remember "juicy" from the time, but in about 2000/01 i definitely remember realising OHHHH it's the "it was all a dream" one
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link
rare that the opening line of a song feels iconic in itself
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 08:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Speaking of The Box, it turned out to be 21/24 Whingey. Which is perfect for a classy guy like me.http://blogs.abcnews.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/28/nc_21_club_081027_mn.jpg
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link
ok I've been wanting to start a thread about The Box for a minute, gotta do it now
― some dude, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link
and even if you aren't a hiphop dude like i was, it gets played all the time at parties and bars. no excuse.
Not at parties and bars I go to, sorry.
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what kind of parties guys like deej and Lex mean when they refer to a song's popularity at "parties." Frat parties? '80s teen-comedy parties? The parties I went to in college involved Moby and Weezer; the parties I go to now mostly just involve someone putting their iPod on shuffle. In most cases people just stand around drinking beer and talking. For a few years I helped organize a New Years Eve party held at a bar in which we picked a bunch of classic songs guaranteed to make people dance, but "Juicy" was not among them.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I think I might've been familiar with "Juicy" if I were a couple years younger. I paid a lot of attention to commercial hip-hop and R&B in 1992-93 but then started listening to alt-rock radio. So I missed Ready to Die. And I didn't go back to pop radio for another ten years, so I missed Biggie's post-death canonization, too. (Though, like I said, "Mo' Money Mo' Problems" and "Hypnotize" were still big enough for me to have heard them once or twice.) I mean, I probably didn't hear "Are You That Somebody" until maybe 2004.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link
hipster parties/frat parties/all parties basically played juicy when i was in college?
― you cant see me markers (deej), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Were there actual DJs at these parties, or just people putting on CDs? I'm struggling to think of anyone I was friends with in college who would've had a Notorious B.I.G. album.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link
but aren't you several years younger than me and jaymc? I don't really know for sure but I think maybe it took a few years for "juicy" to become like the default/best-known b.i.g. song. I'm 31 and I heard "hypnotize" and "big poppa" way before I heard "juicy," but I think maybe for the dudes on here in their 20s, "juicy" had become one of the canonical b.i.g. songs by the time they were seriously into music and/or going to parties like this. just a theory.xpost
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually, yeah, by the time you were in college, people probably used iTunes at parties anyway.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
not saying "juicy" wasn't a hit to start with because it obviously was but I think maybe there was just a lag before it became like "the" notorious big song. I don't remember hearing it at college frat parties either.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I always thought his biggest song pre-1997 was "Big Poppa."― billstevejim, Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:39 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― billstevejim, Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:39 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
As it occurred, yes. But in retrospect, "Juicy" definitely got more of a legacy. Lots o ppl who weren't payin attention in 1994 posting in this thread imo
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm 31 and I heard "hypnotize" and "big poppa" way before I heard "juicy,"
A couple of years older over here, but I had the same experience. I didn't really become a Biggie fan until a buddy made a C-90 of stuff from RTD and LAD, along with selections from Wu solo albums (great tape too).
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
"Unavoidable super-hit" "Juicy" peaked at #72; "Big Poppa" hit #6. It def became a classic in retrospect.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc and it turns our i do rc
Also, no frats at my school. Most of the big parties I went to in college were hosted by art/theatre kids.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
In most cases people just stand around drinking beer and talking
you make parties sound so much fun!
as deej says, it's...all parties, really. house parties, friends' club nights, all of them. i've probably heard "juicy" at the majority of parties i've ever been to.
I'm struggling to think of anyone I was friends with in college who would've had a Notorious B.I.G. album
or maybe this just wasn't true of us. it's not exactly weird to know or have known people who own biggie albums, surely?
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
lex how old are you?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I also wasn't familiar with Juicy until very recently. Hypnotize was everywhere on the radio in LA when it was released and at college parties in the early-mid '00s. Maybe among a certain set of people it's legendary but definitely not the most recognizable or famous BIG song...in my experience at least.
― skip, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
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― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, i'd say "mo money mo problems" and "hypnotize" are as iconic as "juicy" too
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
why is whiney using the UK chart positions?!
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
oh wait it was "mo money" that hit no 6 here, "big poppa" got to no 63
weird that "juicy" had a no 72 peak in both UK and US
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
"Juicy" isn't iconic or his biggest hit, it's just his signature song, the lead single from his classic first, the one that sums him up better than any other song. it'd be a good example of songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller but it's #2 on iTunes behind "Hypnotize" (#3 and #4 are "Mo Money" and "Big Poppa")
― some dude, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
his classic first album, i meant to say
― some dude, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
some dude otm
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link