Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

i think the only genuine contenders on this list for "artist's best song" are the pavement, bjork and dj shadow tracks

Agree with Bjork and Shadow, disagree with Pavement.

I'd also submit for consideration of "best song" status: Wu-Tang, MBV, Aaliyah (this just won the Aaliyah singles poll on ILM ffs!) and Aphex Twin -- tough to say what's "best" for any of these guys, but their tunes in this poll are waaaayy up there.

i understand being a bit tired of "juicy" but saying that it's not even in the top 20 biggie tracks is........................

i'll say this: sam would've been walking to brooklyn to get diddy a piece of cheesecake

to me "Juicy" is by far the best Biggie pop jam and I applaud any list that has it and not "Hypnotize"

i'll say this: sam would've been walking to brooklyn to get diddy a piece of cheesecake

― J0rdan S., Friday, September 10, 2010 4:00 PM (3 minutes ago)

haaaa

best biggie pop jam = "one more chance"
best biggie non-pop jam = "you're nobody (til somebody kills you)"

nahhhh "juicy" is so much better than "one more chance"

yeah man juicy now juicy forever

"juicy" is 100% biggie's biggest pop jam. it's a standard of popular culture.

re: björk, i don't see how anyone can rep for "hyperballad" as the standout from her discography...

björk songs from the '90s that are way way way better than "hyperballad": human behaviour, come to me, aeroplane, play dead, big time sensuality, one day, enjoy, isobel, the modern things, bachelorette, jóga, pluto, hunter, unravel, all is full of love, my snare, sod off

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, September 3, 2010 7:51 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

and the brodsky quartet version of "hyperballad" >>>>>> the original, which due to its sequencing on post mostly strikes me as a warm-up for the superior "the modern things"

"juicy" is 100% biggie's biggest pop jam. it's a standard of popular culture.

OK, at the risk of exposing myself as hopelessly out of touch, the first time I'd ever heard "Juicy" was on that Girl Talk track. Whereas I'd heard "Hypnotize" and "Mo' Money Mo' Problems" numerous times before that, and I even have a memory of kids in high school quoting "Big Poppa."

Wondered if this was a US/UK thing, but "Juicy" peaked at #72 on the UK chart and #27 in the U.S.

the first time I'd ever heard "Juicy" was on that Girl Talk track.

like, this sounds actually impossible to me

yeah oh my god - i mean put that shit on at a party and EVERYONE KNOWS ALL THE WORDS

and the brodsky quartet version of "hyperballad" >>>>>> the original, which due to its sequencing on post mostly strikes me as a warm-up for the superior "the modern things"

SO RONG

it's kind of amazing how foolproof that is actually, doesn't matter what kind of people are there

xp

the LIfe After Death hits and "Big Poppa" definitely were bigger crossover hits than "Juicy," I don't think it's his biggest hit just his best

not sure about "at the time," but juicy is one of literally two pre-2010 songs the local hip-hop station plays constantly. so some revisionism possibly at work.

I can barely stand "Hypnotize" now. "Juicy" never gets old, even when I've embarrassed myself doing it at karaoke.

i don't like hypnotize that much tbh. JUICY 4EVA

"hypnotize" beat is the best

Weezer - "Say It Ain't So" 4

lol. also if the criteria was "everyone knows all the words to the track & will belt them out on cue" thennnnnn

If that's the case, I'm glad only four people will be belting.

Love 'em both (Juicy and Hypnotize). I'd like to pitch "#!*@ You Tonight" or "Playa Hata" as Biggie's best non-pop jams.

if you can't f/w biggie spitting raw shit over a "rise" loop, i can't f/w you

omg

one more chance remix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juicy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything 2pac ever made that isn't i get around

hypnotize kills yall are crazy

omg

one more chance remix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> juicy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything 2pac ever made that isn't i get around

― a hoy hoy, Friday, September 10, 2010 6:48 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^^bulllllshit

and i like juicy! y'all acting like i think it is awful.

sam...

stop digging

Hypnotize is an astounding song. I've been to functions* where everyone has known all the words to Nearer My God To Thee, and has sung along... it doesn't make it a hip hop standard.

(*Admittedly these have been the funerals of old people in Lancashire, not parties in California.)

yeah oh my god - i mean put that shit on at a party and EVERYONE KNOWS ALL THE WORDS
― max skim (k3vin k.), Friday, 10 September 2010 20:42 (Yesterday)

This has happened to me with "Gimme The Loot" ... Girl Talk chose "Juicy" for a reason.

OK, at the risk of exposing myself as hopelessly out of touch, the first time I'd ever heard "Juicy" was on that Girl Talk track.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wut

"out of touch" is not the pejorative i would choose there

i don't know, if i could be aware of that song as a 12-year-old in public school in somerset who barely knew that hip-hop existed, i don't really feel there's any excuse for anyone of appropriate age to have first heard it through FUCKING GIRL TALK. i'm proud that i didn't know til today that that cunt despoiled biggie by using his song, i hope lil kim cuts his face up in revenge.

and the brodsky quartet version of "hyperballad" >>>>>> the original, which due to its sequencing on post mostly strikes me as a warm-up for the superior "the modern things"

SO RONG

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, September 10, 2010 8:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

justify? seriously i would like to try to understand how/why "hyperballad" has its rep - it's not particularly successful or well-known, no more so than any other given björk single, and as a huge björk fan since forever it just seems like a literally random choice from her discography. you may as well pick, idk, "cover me".

it's my favorite bjork song

i hope that girl talk doesnt get cut in the face!

didn't want my mind blown at 9 in the morning but reading a hoy hoy's posts

man

I gotta sit down

*siiiiiiiiiigh*

well "hyperballad", along with "play dead" and "bachelorette", is pretty much the best thing i've heard from bjork to date. it really is a beautiful song with an interesting magic-realism element to the lyrics. i also get more of an emotional sense from it than anything else she's released - it has a certain candour to it and perhaps a looseness to the vocal delivery that you don't hear so much in her later stuff, which seems more calculated and arms-length.

oh and yeah, "juicy" is the best thing i've heard from B.I.G, though i've never listened to him much.

"windowlicker" - yeah, best single maybe. but not the best representation of his talents, i'd say.

I rep for Hyperballad as the best bjork song from the 90s followed very closely by Unravel and Joga.
Best bjork song from the 00s is Cocoon no contest.

'Hyperballad' is my favourite Bjork song too, though there are plenty that run it close - for me it's not so much about emotional sense or even that it stands out as something different from the rest of her catalogue, it's mainly a matter of execution. I've always loved Bjork's way with phrasing and 'Hyperballad' has so many great moments on that front, "I throoOOOOOooow little things oo-ooff" especially. I also really really love the fluttering snares in the intro. I guess its appearance here is kind of surprising purely because I genuinely have no idea what a consensus Bjork track might be these days.

'Juicy' seems vaguely familiar but if yr not american and weren't around during his lifetime/canonization phase that's probably a pretty common reaction. The track is fine but in terms of lol pimp bildungsroman I'd rather the cold, dead eyed materialism of 86 Schooly D or Clipse.

Clearly 'Gold Soundz' isn't important, but this whole exercise gives lies to the notion of universally ~important~ music, which isn't to decry the utility of canons but I don't think it matters at all that anyone is unfamiliar or unmoved by any of this stuff at 10-20 yrs remove. Loveless is great but it's reasonable to think it's shit too. If someone, somewhere, somehow has never heard SLTS, w/e.

yup. 'juicy' wasn't this major thing in the uk in the 1990s, and it isn't a standard of popular culture now. prefer it to clipse (and pavement), but ppl are way overdoing it.

The Tristan prelude is probably 'important' in that decades of formal developments in various schools can reasonably be traced back to it. You could argue something similar with 'Sister Ray' or 'Planet Rock' but I'm not sure it works with anything in the timeframe of this poll. Try in another 10 yrs maybe.

Lex dissing "Loser" itt = God's work.

I have never heard "Juicy." Not that that disqualifies it from being a standard of popular culture or anything.

you should its p good