Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

"i'm a loser so why don't you kill me?" - OK THEN, happily!

I don't think ILM hates pitchfork.

It doesn't. One or two very vocal posters do and everyone piling in for 300 posts when they say so kind of skews every discussion to look like it's somehow more hated than it actually is.

Wu beating Biggie is p otm. Juicy is a terrible pick imo. Also didn't Spottie win the Aquemini poll? Would have gone for only 3 'Kast tracks over it (Players Ball, Elevators, Return of the G).

Wu beating Biggie is p otm. Juicy is a terrible pick imo.

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its still a dece song but won't make my top 20 biggie tracks.

that's fucking insane

i mean, i generally prefer wu to biggie but still think that "juicy" is better than any wu-tang song or maybe all but a small handful of rap songs ever

yeah u r crazy dude

i mean

birthdays were the worst days/ now we sip champagne when we thirst-ay

but then again you hate bone thugs n harmony so i take your opinions on rap music anyway

with a grain of salt anyway

spottieottie is amazing classic untouchable & way better than like choosing 'rosa parks'

ILX's coolness toward "Rosa Parks" is so disappointing.

i mean, i generally prefer wu to biggie but still think that "juicy" is better than any wu-tang song or maybe all but a small handful of rap songs ever

fixed

"rosa parks" is great but a way more boring (and somewhat inferior) choice

Inferior as a choice maybe, not inferior as a song imo.

party & bullshit
gimme the loot
things done changed
warning
the what
unbelievable
big poppa
who shot ya
somebodys gotta die
hypnotize
kick in the door
ten crack commandments
whats beef
notorious thugs
dead wrong
hope u n sleep
dangerous mcs

how many is that? all would pick them all over juicy

17...

the way i voted into this was imagining that i only got to hear one of these songs ever again. and it would not be cool to never hear the spottieotte horns again.

that track has always kicked my ass

isn't it a sample/interpolation from some funk song? you could always listen to that instead

the way i voted into this was imagining that i only got to hear one of these songs ever again.

Precisely the reason "Enjoy the Silence" is the right answer here.

isn't it a sample/interpolation from some funk song? you could always listen to that instead

― the mid- '80s vein of hellmusic we love to hate (bernard snowy), Friday, September 10, 2010 Suggest Ban Permalink
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pretty sure it is not

i mean, i personally like "warning" and "hypnotize" and "dead wrong" more than "juicy" but you'd have to be pretty daft to think any of those are actually "better songs"

in terms of "entire house parties will stop whatever theyre doing and start rapping along" power there are very few songs that can beat juicy--big poppa and california love maybe

"Gimme the loot" is the best biggie & "shame on a nuh" is the best wu

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But I would've took a few 2pac songs over all of these.

"Gimme the loot" is the best biggie & "shame on a nuh" "4th Chamber" from Liquid Swords is the best wu

yeah wtf sam

i think the only genuine contenders on this list for "artist's best song" are the pavement, bjork and dj shadow tracks. but i don't really care much about dj shadow and couldn't really be bothered championing pavement at the moment, so on that logic might have voted bjork.

"shame on a nun"

SHAME ON A NUN WHO TRY TO RUN GAME ON A NUN

i think the only genuine contenders on this list for "artist's best song" are the pavement, bjork and dj shadow tracks

Agree with Bjork and Shadow, disagree with Pavement.

I'd also submit for consideration of "best song" status: Wu-Tang, MBV, Aaliyah (this just won the Aaliyah singles poll on ILM ffs!) and Aphex Twin -- tough to say what's "best" for any of these guys, but their tunes in this poll are waaaayy up there.

i understand being a bit tired of "juicy" but saying that it's not even in the top 20 biggie tracks is........................

i'll say this: sam would've been walking to brooklyn to get diddy a piece of cheesecake

to me "Juicy" is by far the best Biggie pop jam and I applaud any list that has it and not "Hypnotize"

i'll say this: sam would've been walking to brooklyn to get diddy a piece of cheesecake

― J0rdan S., Friday, September 10, 2010 4:00 PM (3 minutes ago)

haaaa

best biggie pop jam = "one more chance"
best biggie non-pop jam = "you're nobody (til somebody kills you)"

nahhhh "juicy" is so much better than "one more chance"

yeah man juicy now juicy forever

"juicy" is 100% biggie's biggest pop jam. it's a standard of popular culture.

re: björk, i don't see how anyone can rep for "hyperballad" as the standout from her discography...

björk songs from the '90s that are way way way better than "hyperballad": human behaviour, come to me, aeroplane, play dead, big time sensuality, one day, enjoy, isobel, the modern things, bachelorette, jóga, pluto, hunter, unravel, all is full of love, my snare, sod off

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, September 3, 2010 7:51 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

and the brodsky quartet version of "hyperballad" >>>>>> the original, which due to its sequencing on post mostly strikes me as a warm-up for the superior "the modern things"

"juicy" is 100% biggie's biggest pop jam. it's a standard of popular culture.

OK, at the risk of exposing myself as hopelessly out of touch, the first time I'd ever heard "Juicy" was on that Girl Talk track. Whereas I'd heard "Hypnotize" and "Mo' Money Mo' Problems" numerous times before that, and I even have a memory of kids in high school quoting "Big Poppa."

Wondered if this was a US/UK thing, but "Juicy" peaked at #72 on the UK chart and #27 in the U.S.

the first time I'd ever heard "Juicy" was on that Girl Talk track.

like, this sounds actually impossible to me

yeah oh my god - i mean put that shit on at a party and EVERYONE KNOWS ALL THE WORDS

and the brodsky quartet version of "hyperballad" >>>>>> the original, which due to its sequencing on post mostly strikes me as a warm-up for the superior "the modern things"

SO RONG

it's kind of amazing how foolproof that is actually, doesn't matter what kind of people are there

xp

the LIfe After Death hits and "Big Poppa" definitely were bigger crossover hits than "Juicy," I don't think it's his biggest hit just his best

not sure about "at the time," but juicy is one of literally two pre-2010 songs the local hip-hop station plays constantly. so some revisionism possibly at work.

I can barely stand "Hypnotize" now. "Juicy" never gets old, even when I've embarrassed myself doing it at karaoke.