cross-dressing and how to do it

*reads first post and immediately starts believing in God again*

I asked God already, and his advice was not only unhelpful and totally off-topic, but a little angry and threatening.

"Thou shalt not mix plaids with stripes!"

Actually, that SHOULD be in the Old Testament. An oversight, imo.

I was trying to think of the makeup that's used to cover up scars and such, and a quick google reveals that it is commonly used by transvestites: Kenan, the Rose beige seems like it would be most suitable for your skin tone. You can get smaller sizes muuuch cheaper on eBay. here's a color chart:

http://www.dermablend.com/foundations/foundations-severe-flaws/new-cover-creme.htm

I have false eyelashes and eyelash glue. You already have enviable eyelashes, but false ones would be even more fabulous. I've got the rest of the eye makeup covered, of course. There are tons of makeup tutorials on YouTube, and I'm sure there are some on transvestite makeup too–you will probably need one for dermablend, since that stuff seems like spackle.

aw I hope you two continue your discussion on ILX

I had ludicrously long eyelashes for a man. I think just some mascara would be enough. I mean, right? My eyelashes brush against my glasses when I blink as it is.

i HAVE, I mean. I didn't lose them in an accident or anything.

RIP kenan's beautiful eyelashes

I am guessing they got etaen by geese accident

They are totally still there. Well, mostly.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/eyelashes.jpg

kenan's death mask!

Oh I hope I get a little older before it comes to that.

you need to consider shoes! shoes are important. your choices will depend on how large your feet are, how manly your feet look, and how comfortable you are with the idea of walking in heels.

It's a lot easier to find large-size and wide woman's shoes than it used to be, because people's feet have gotten larger. (Garbo was notorious in her lifetime for having big feet. She wore a size 8.) Kenan, what were you planning to wear? Long dress, short dress, pantsuit?

fwiw i have a size 10.5 foot but iirc women's sizes are (men's size + 3) so when i did this i had to look for a size 13.5 and there's not a whole lot of sexy footwear in that size range unless you want to spend $$$. i had to settle for squeezing into a size 11 women's open-back shoe which was kinda painful / hilarious / grotesque

but yknow i was dressed in outrageous grandma drag so my goal wasn't "sexy" really -- the overall look was described by some as "like Tyler Perry as Medea, but white"

I think women's sizes are actually men's +2. But the only thing I tend to see made in 11+ that's $50 or less are straight up stripper heels. (example)

omg can we have a sub-discussion on stripper shoes, because they are hilarious

drag is a thing that makes me wish i was a tinier person.

kenan you should get these:

http://www.fantasiawear.com/ImagesShoe/ps8230.jpg

along with a bunch of audio cassettes to crush

It's still heels for long skirts and flats (or low heels) for short, right?

Elmo if you're ever in need of sexy lady shoes to feel man sized feet I'd head to Dorothy's on Mass Ave near Berkley: http://www.dorothysboutique.biz/

i wore a short dress with heels the other night and felt pretty fancy

is there a rule about that kind of thing?

haha, thx E! (tho i'm not sure i'm gonna do drag this year again -- i may just re-use my dionysos costume from this summer)

is there a rule about that kind of thing?

Don't tell me, this is yet another of the rules that I was raised on that everyone else stopped going by years before I was born.

fwiw Abbott is correct re: sizing difference

Off-topic, sorry, re flats v heels etc: There's no rule anymore really, it's harder than that, cos it's about proportion and your body and overall image, ie with something tight and oh say '50s sex-kitten-ish, some pointy little heels (maybe even dainty?) will probably go better than flats. Yr skin-tight American Apparel hipster leggings probably look kinda slutty with heels, better w flats.

Otoh it's true that no one get-up needs all the va-va-voom while other outfits get none, so sort of...pick one or maybe two "hot" item(s) per outfit and adjust everything else to accentuate/contrast.

OTM

I had a friend who went to SF in high school with the goal of getting some stripper heels to fit his size 11 feet. He did not know the +2 size difference and bought some size 11W when he should have bought some size 13W. They looked like these:

http://www.fantasiawear.com/ImagesShoe/pssky309z-black-shoe.jpg

I had the first Elric novel, he wanted & he convinced me to trade the shoes for them. I went over to his house & we were going to play video games together but he said I had to wear the shoes while I did. This was a highly socially awkward night.

Now my sister wears the shoes when she vacuums her apartment...she is 5'11" top begin with so this is some serious Amazon vacuuming.

I should say, he was going to SF for some school thing, and his secondary goal was to attain stripper heels.

Vacuuming in heels is some serious amazon behavior at any height. Hubba hubba!

Where to go in Chicago

xp - what? how is that amazonian? i can see if you had to lift the vacuum over your head or something - or if you were converting the vacuum into a rocket - but just pushing the thing around the rooms of your standard tract home - does not require much effort at all.

No it's just that in the heels she'd like 6'6". I am sorry I did not mean she was literally doing vicious one-breasted warrioress activities.

Damn.

she had a mastectomy too?

No, I did not mean that. Once again, apologies.

i was just making a joke

I just caught myself thinking "Does Wonder Woman every do the vacuuming?"

s/every/ever

does she have an invisible vacuum cleaner for her invisible jet?

does she have invisible buttsex on her invisible jet? (this is ILTMI)

The gape would not be invisible, it's not as discrete as you'd think.

the jet in the Lynda Carter tv series confused me as a kid because you could still see her -

What really confused me was how this character that could bend metal bars and lift trucks somehow managed to get tied up every episode.

true confession: that tv show had a major influence on my sex life

I think I'm looking at an intersection of Kate Bush, Lynda Carter, Erin Gray, and Miss Piggy...

― snoball, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 13:19 (2 years ago)

(from a thread about first celeb crushes)

i really doubt kenan would care that we're derailing his thread

That's such a great picture. Such pretty animals, all of us.

FYI, manda, that pic is now on my office wall, right between Julia and Calvin and Hobbes. People find it very creepy. I find that delightful.

I'm ok with that. Glad to contribute, even :)

Does ilx have a thread about female masking? I've looked but I can't find anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf1DFXWi7GM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNDk0mpkpRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfhmTX_Fn5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVviHTzrh1k

That is the meditation when one is alone: to love oneself so deeply that for the first time you become your own love object.

So in these days when you are alone, be a narcissist; love yourself, enjoy yourself, delight in your body, in your mind, in your soul. And enjoy the space that is empty around you and fill it with love. The lover is not there -- fill it with love! Spread your love around your space, and your space will start becoming luminous; it will glow. And then for the first time you will know

http://banoosh.com/blog/2013/08/11/youre-a-wild-girl-taiwanese-push-up-bra-ad-will-have-you-do-a-double-take/

why did whiney post "smh" ?

good - sort the broad-minded sheep from the humdrum goats

― acoleuthic, Wednesday, September 8, 2010 8:46 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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I feel like this is something I'm interested in. Been wearing random women's garments that fit a more masculine style (jeans, hoodies, etc) sometimes lately but I'm considering taking it to the next level

I'd be interested to know how that works out for you. I'm working through some gender-identity questions I'd had to put aside because, well, Alabama, but I've been able to start dressing and presenting myself a bit more comfortably over the last few years (growing my hair out, getting my ears pierced, trying to avoid obvious gender cues or at least masculine signifiers where I can) and it's made a huge difference in my ability to feel okay in my own skin.

that's totally where i'm at too! i've been into the androgynous look for a while, and i think it's really hot when guys pull it off. my hair's almost down to my shoulders now. not sure if i want to go for the whole look or just "pretty boy" but it's really -important- to me for some reason.

I have to be kind of conservative because I just turned 30. I look young for my age, apparently (maybe some small karmic payback for missing basically the entirety of my teens and 20s, more likely just due to avoiding things like sun exposure and drinking heavily and fun) but I have to think long-term now. There's a little leeway to experiment while I go back to school, but I'm kind of scared it's too late to figure this out.

Got mistaken for a girl tonight in a fairly neutral outfit, even though I'm 6 foot and 155 pounds. It's still nice, though; that along with pretty much everyone I interact with being cool with my stupid gender identity shit (whether stated or not) and the discovery of a trans*-friendly unisex bathroom at my school (at a fucking community college, even) makes me wish I'd moved to this part of the country, or I guess to 2013, ten years ago, if not more.

Thread of missing Kenan.

Thread of missing Kenan.

No idea why that posted twice. I don't miss him that much. Only once.

Facebook has all the thoughts and photos you need.

I painted my nails a few days ago but now they're all chipped to hell. >_<

You should use topcoat too

Try Seche Vite top coat next time. And clean your nails with nail polish remover first to make sure there's no oil on your nails. That will help the color stick longer.

Haha xp

seche vite = gamechanger

My new fave topcoat actually is Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails fwiw.

That's the one I use. It's amazing! Couldn't find SV easily here.

SV goes on like the nectar of the gods, but it shrinks back from the edges on the 2nd or 3rd day, depending on the exact formulas of the polishes underneath. The Hard as Nails is almost as glossy as SV but seems less inclined to pull away.

I bought the most adorable little dress for $5 that I'm going to wear out tonight! I'm gonna have to wear the girl jeans I already have (or maybe my skintight black men's skinny jeans?) under it cause it's too short/sheer to wear without something under and I don't have anything else suitable. Also gonna paint my nails again & wear lip gloss. It'll be so cute.

pics

^^^

kate78 ended up hooking me up with some accessories

https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/603081_10201345115244618_1819216073_n.jpg

That's a good look!

...and a screwdriver. xpost

I love the way lanky men can sit with their legs crossed straight at the knee. I personally cannot. Just one of those things....

I can't comfortably do that wearing jeans, wasn't uncomfortable with leggings though.

I love the way lanky men can sit with their legs crossed straight at the knee.

I don't think I understand this- how else would you sit with your legs crossed?

omg rev so cute. love it!

xp My top leg points sideways and often slides off the bottom leg because I'm just built that way I guess.

my legs are too thick to really drape the way laurel is describing