rock stars who went back work.

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So, what happened to Adorable, then?

# Pete: Lead Singer in Polak (worked in a second hand book shop in Brighton as well)
# Robert: Getting into computer networks.
# Kevin: Math Teacher in Bodmin Community College, but I hear that he's going to Truro(?).
# Wil: Teacher

Sunburnt, Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link

joel (tamborine guy with the muttonchops) from the brian jonestown massacre used to work at a record store in santa cruz--in 2000 or so.

-- eric (ericfetterman200...), September 21st, 2005.

now he works at the Amoeba in San Francisco

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Thursday, 22 September 2005 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link

the singer from the band failure pumps my gas.

stuck on yooooooooou till the end of tiiiiiiime

dennis davis, Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I went to a resurant/bar in phenom phen, cambodia, owned by one of the goo goo dolls.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

rock stars who went back work.

Fact is, almost all of them. If you're in a band and you're not the songwriter, and you decide you're not going to tour endlessly as a hasbeen, you're going back to work. Songwriters get royalties, and may be able to live off them if they had a big enough hit. The other musicians only get paid as long as they're playing - when they stop, that's it. That TV show Hit Me Baby One More Time was great - showing the likes of Loverboy at their day jobs. Some musicians transition to sidemen/session musician/teaching or music industry careers, but the rest are on the payroll.

Rob Van Winkle (AKA Vanilla Ice) - mananger of a convenience store
Tim Cronin (Monster Magnet) - longtime fixture at Jack's Music Shop in Red Bank NJ
Tod A (Cop Shoot Cop, Firewater) - graphic designer at Rolling Stone
Lyle Preslar (Minor Threat) - A&R rep
Kira (Black Flag) - computer programmer

the singer from the band failure pumps my gas.
Self-fulfilling prophecy?

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Billy the Miller: Wow, I went to high school with Bill from the Churchkeys...next time he's giving you a blowjob, tell him I said "hi."

Ron Sexsmith used to be a messenger in Toronto, on foot. (He doesn't drive). He told me he was delivering a package to a business there that had a return address in Lebanon, TN, which gave him the idea for that song on his first record.

wendyo, Friday, 23 September 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Me!

Cristal Waters (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

When were you a star, Adam?

k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Manfred Mann's lead singer Paul Jones now works presenting a Christian TV channel.

Andy Dexter, Friday, 23 September 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Elvis Costello had a job as a computer operator in an Elizabeth Arden make-up factory.... "Spent all my time in a vanity factory, wondering when they're going to come and take it all back..."

George Dick, Friday, 23 September 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Thomas Dolby did the Silicon Valley entreperneurial thing. He had a company called Headspace, now called Beatnik. They tried to do a bunch of things, but mostly they made bank on selling an audio engine to cell phone companies (inc. Nokia I believe).

He left Beatnik a few years ago to start some cellphone ringtone company.

mikef (mfleming), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"I think Hugo Burnham went on to record exec stuff of some sort, but I think the thread is better if we don't concentrate on people who moved into an entertainment corporation."

Nope. Hugo Burnham teaches at the Brookline Art Institute here in Boston.

Until very recently, Marty Crandall from the Shins worked at Bow Wow Records in Albuquerque. I bought many an album from him over the years.

stewartflamingo, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Rat Scabies (drummer of the Damned) is following in his father's footsteps & searching for the (actual) Holy Grail. and writing a book about it, presumably

autovac (autovac), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Already been written: RAT SCABIES AND THE HOLY GRAIL by Christopher Dawes (Thunder's Mouth Press, 2005)

me, Friday, 23 September 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Archie Moore (guitarist, Velocity Girl) works as a recording engineer at a Studio in the Washington, DC suburbs.

Which is probably every band member's dream.

!@, Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

exene cervenka is a school librarian at (i believe) that rich 'progressive' high school in santa monica.

kinda hot, actually.

the, Saturday, 24 September 2005 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link

The guitarist from night ranger was painting houses in the SF east bay...

the, Saturday, 24 September 2005 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

another british computer operator: paul atkinson (zombies guitarist)

they used to say that if you drive a jaguar, you need a mechanic riding in the boot.

british computers must have been similar, that's a lot of operators.

the, Saturday, 24 September 2005 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Mato Valtonen, the lead man of Leningrad Cowboys, had as mobile phone appliance firm back in the days of the big information technology boom. Then, when the bubble broke, his firm went down and he took a job as a rollercoaster cart driver.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link

No doubt everyone here already knows this, but googling "Jon King" "World Television" yields some startling results for the unreconstructed post-marxist / post-situationist Gang of Four fan, though apparently Jon resigned recently in favor of beating up microwave ovens and establishing some sort of media business consultancy.

The document contains no data., Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Mato Valtonen, the lead man of Leningrad Cowboys, had as mobile phone appliance firm back in the days of the big information technology boom. Then, when the bubble broke, his firm went down and he took a job as a rollercoaster cart driver.

This sounds almost too Aki Kaurismaki!

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link

NB This thread has been outed on Salon

Yakitori Bob (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

???

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

This sounds almost too Aki Kaurismaki!

It's true, though I'm not sure whether he took the rollercoaster job for financial reasons or for something else. I guess you're right about the Kaurismäki thing, except that Kaurismäki would never make a film with mobile phones in it. Valtonen recently did a comeback tour with his first band, Sleepy Sleepers, but that was just one-shot, I'm not sure what he's doing now.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

When I was in college in the late eighties, I remember seeing one of the members of Eleventh Dream Day working in a Chicago record store. It was right then and there I saw the light that recording for a major label didn't give you a license to quit your day job. Even at 20-21 years old, I knew that the indie-level bands had some other source of income besides music, but 11DD were on Atlantic Records at the time - home of Phil Collins and Debbie Gibson! But, they weren't making Phil or Debbie's $$$, so...

I should add that working at the record store was nothing to be 'shamed of; I just figured that because of Atlantic, the guy wouldn't have to work retail any mo'.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 24 September 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Kaurismäki would never make a film with mobile phones in it.

Why not? Aesthetic or ideological reasons?

I love that he didn't come to the last NY Film Festival out of solidarity with Abbas Kiarostami, who, being Iranian, didn't get a visa.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I interviewed for a web designer job in Atlanta with the drummer from Faster Pussycat. Didn't get the gig, but I think the company (a dot com in the early 2000s) dried up. He was very friendly and LA sparkly, and told me how he was dabbling in death metal/industrial.

John Curley of the Afghan Whigs owns a recording studio in Cincinnati (Ultrasuede), and also does web design, with his wife.

Steve Libbey, Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Thomas Dolby did the Silicon Valley entreperneurial thing. He had a company called Headspace, now called Beatnik. They tried to do a bunch of things, but mostly they made bank on selling an audio engine to cell phone companies (inc. Nokia I believe).

He left Beatnik a few years ago to start some cellphone ringtone company.

-- mikef (mflemin...), September 23rd, 2005.

totally confirmed. a friend of mine here in SF works for a ringtone company called Moderati, and they deal with Thomas all the time.

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Bob from the Juliana Theory worked at the FYE music store at the Westmoreland Mall in Greensburg, PA, when i was in college in Latrobe. it was right when the JT were supposed to have been taking off - so he left the FYE gig for bigger/better pastures with the JT.

in Pittsburgh, they were the shit - but i don't know just how big they really got elsewhere.

but i bought a couple of CD's off of him. nice enough guy.

JoeOverdrive, Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

"I think Hugo Burnham went on to record exec stuff of some sort, but I think the thread is better if we don't concentrate on people who moved into an entertainment corporation."

Nope. Hugo Burnham teaches at the Brookline Art Institute here in Boston.

But before that he did A&R for Imago Records. In fact, he was my friend's band's A&R guy. When he got fired, they got dropped.

Hunter Lyle (Lyle), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

an old co-worker used to get her taxes done by (i think) the drummer from the circle jerks.

I've heard that too, only it's not the drummer, it's their bass player circa Golden Showe of Hits (whose name escapes me).

If your co-worker got her taxes done by Roger Rogerson, she's got serious problems because a) he's been dead for 10 years and, b) before that, he was a raving drunk. Keith Clark, the drummer from the Circle Jerks is the accountant. The Circle Jerks' original drummer, Lucky Lehrer, took over his family's optical supply business and is now a gazillionaire. His brother Chett, of Wasted Youth fame, is company VP.

John Kezdy of The Effigies is a prosecutor in Illinois.

Hunter Lyle (Lyle), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

so how do 90% of musos mentioned on this thread qualify as "rock stars"?? duh, a guy who sent me a promo 10 years ago is no longer wasting my time or his money. And no longer having to play background music for drunks, forebrain music for headz.

don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Not to say that they were wrong to try the music biz. shut up self.

don, Sunday, 25 September 2005 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link

In 1997, while in treatment for addiction, my aftercare counselor was Paul Williams. When Paul left he was replaced by Terry Kirkman of The Association.

jdblue, Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Richard Lloyd gives guitar lessons, $50 an hour, taught a friend of mine. Hell, I'd pay $50 just to do the Marquee Moon intro with him...

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Sunday, 25 September 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

`Archie Moore (guitarist, Velocity Girl) works as a recording engineer at a Studio in the Washington, DC suburbs.`

This is true, but it`s actually a commercial music production house; I used to work for the same company. `A musician`s dream` it was not.

Also...
David William Sims (Scratch Acid/Rapeman/Jesus Lizard) is an accountant.
From Lungfish, Daniel Higgs works as a tattoo artist and the drummer is an administrator at a hospital.
During his self-imposed isolation, Kevin Shields made ends meet by selling backstock vinyl of My Bloody Valentine`s pre-Creation albums directly to stores.
Greg Dulli owns a bar in Hollywood.
Tim Harrington (Les Savy Fav) makes handmade housewares with his wife.
Yes, Jim Martin (Faith No More) grows giant mutant pumpkins.

Seb R, Monday, 26 September 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

someone told me one of the dudes from Da Lench Mob is a janitor in a junior high somewhere in southern california

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Kevin Shields made ends meet by selling backstock vinyl of My Bloody Valentine`s pre-Creation albums directly to stores.

all of a sudden, several things make sense

jimmy glass (electricsound), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link

From the Loud Family

Scott Miller is a computer programmer.

Alison Faith Levy manages a Barnes & Noble.

Gil Ray works for a record distributor.

Not sure what Kenny Kessel is up to; maybe programming as well.

kinsey milkbone, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Ed Sanders of The Fugs taught for awhile at B@rd College in the early 80s. His flagship course was "Cultural Reportage."

Abby Cat, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Greg Dulli owns a bar in Hollywood.

Well, this is about the least-surprising news that I've heard all day.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Frank Kogan said that when he worked at Baskin & Robbins (or was it when he and Luc Sante and Jody Harris of Contortions/Blacks worked at the Strand?), Sonic Youth worked across the street, at Kinko's, I think. But he/they were too shy to say hi, though both playing some of same places, or anyway neighborhoods. (Frank was in several groups, like the Pillowmakers, and Red Dark Sweet, before the latter's Charlotte Pressler and Andrew Klimek moved back to Cleveland; think Charlotte does something academic now.)Oh yea, lots of music teachers: see ads in Voice!

don, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The bass player from Jesus Jones (Alan something or other) is now the bass player in the Waco Brothers, which is fronted by Jon Langford. Everytime I've seen them Jon teases him about Jesus Jones, so I can't imagine he minds too much.

David Lee Roth is taking over Howard Stern's slot on K-Rock in NYC when Howard moves to Sirius.

I've stayed at Kate Pierson's motel. Fun and Kitschy. It's in the Catskills.

I heard one of the guys from Flowered Up was selling records in a stall in the Camden Lock.

Larry Graham (Graham Central Station) goes door to door with Prince as an evangelizing Jehovah's Witness.

Nick S., Monday, 26 September 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

that petkovic guy from Cobra verde has been writing for Cleveland papers for a while. one of the other guys in the band, the keyboard player, teaches a history of rock class at Cleveland State. my girlfriend used to work with the aforementioned guy from the Dead Milkmen, at a borders coffeeshop.

MtStPat, Monday, 26 September 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Austin update:

Adam Sultan of Poi Dog Pondering works as help desk operator at Apple Computer.

From the Reivers, John Croslin works at the University of Texas, Kim Longacre teaches at a Montessori school, and Cindy Toth works at a used bookstore.

Michael Hall of the Wild Seeds (and his own solo career) is a staff writer at Texas Monthly magazine. His longtime guitarist Randy Franklin (Standing Waves, F-Systems, Loose Diamonds) runs a folk-art gallery called Yard Dog.

FYI (those who care): Biscuit of the Big Boys died a couple of weeks ago.

Viscount Slim, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Does Adam still have that job? I thought he quit.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Anne Eickelberg from Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 is now a real estate agent here in Portland.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Thom of Savage Republic is a coffee roaster in Claremont, CA.

Roy Montgomery is a English professor in NZ.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

MC Hammer became a preacher in Tracy, California.

Dave Buster, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

David William Sims (Scratch Acid/Rapeman/Jesus Lizard) is an accountant.

yeah, i have his business card, even.

Ed Sanders of The Fugs taught for awhile at B@rd College in the early 80s. His flagship course was "Cultural Reportage."

oh wow, didn't know that. i took that course, but in the mid-90s, long after sanders was gone.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link


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