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seems mr. schrieber is on a david byrne kick lately with his two most recent best new music choices

breezy, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

my two bits...
http://www.pataphysics-lab.com/dotdotdot/2005/07/07/boxes-with-wldrnss-on-them/

jd comparisons are probably warranted. their previous bands had the jd style rhythms. (or rem style rhythms depending on your pov.)

i'm not really sure where jay is coming from re:vocals. something to note tho... this band has been together for 10 years and the previous band had similarities.

my complaint might be that it reminds me too much of tristeza at times. and yeah, it's samey... but note that lungfish is as well and i know that's at least an ideological influence.

good guys tho. and a good band. see them live. no chumps here.
m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 7 July 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish "samey" was an allmusic style descriptor.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

so you could look for samey bands and buy their records?

Michael Cuthbert, Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

samey vs. cohesive...

m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

samey vs. "concept" album

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 7 July 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

also, another wilderness favorite was cocteau twins ... which i think makes some sense given the way the melodies often work.
m.

msp (mspa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I like this record a whole lot, but agree with the assessment that it all runs together by the end. My girlfriend pointed out the vocal similarities between the singer and Alan Partridge, and now I cannot hear the record without going "A-Ha!"

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

this album was not made for me.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I like this album very much.

The sameyness doesn't bother me. I like it...it's got a good mood...love the improv piano thing at the end too...good closer.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, this record is really unbearable. Sorry about that, I tried hard to love them, but I couldn't.

zeus, Monday, 29 August 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

your loss.

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

also, people that complain about the singer are MENTAL!

the singing is the best part!

the drummer in my band made a good comparison to Lungfish...like a sort of wierd, Brit post-punk Lungfish with the Edge playing guitar.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
this band kills.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, yes, must investigate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Weird. I've been listening to this for the past two hours.

kurt broder (dr g), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like that part near the end of 'Arkless'. After the stuttering 'the object is dismay' build-up, when it all gets released. His voice sounds so great.

sffd, Friday, 7 October 2005 04:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I downloaded this a month or 2 ago and i really really like it. I need to buy it.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link

top ten 2005...FER SURE.

ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

top five.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

still loving it. def. top 10 material.....i think dude is a brilliant lyricists, in his own strange way...i like the way the constantly repeated little phrases seem to suggest some greater depth that may/may not actually be there...

some of the best drumming of the year as well....guitar playing captures all the things i like about u2 without actually being u2

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

the dude has mental stage presence as well.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

it's sort of a combination of him doing the robot and playing an invisible theremin to the music.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

HE IS HELLA WEIRD.

the guitar player makes chipmunk faces during jamage parts....its annoying.

ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

it's sort of a combination of him doing the robot and playing an invisible theremin to the music.

haha that's awesome! I hoped he would be wierd onstage....did you guys see Gang of Four on the new tour (or ever?)...I imagine him having stage movts like Jon King when I saw them a few months ago....do Wilderness tour much? I don't think they've been thru Mpls..

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen them twice in the span of 2 months...so

ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

wilderness:PiL :: interpol:joy division

kurt broder (dr g), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

dean yr saying u dont hear the PiL????

cause i do...only it's later PiL...it's weird that people would say "wilderness" and "second editon"....when they should be saying "wilderness" and "9"

ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
this sounds a little like u2 fronted by a david byrne impersonator (marginal over) except with more 'rock' drumming, with lots of open hihats (not a plus!); maybe itd be better if they let the drummer be as MATH as he seems to want to be? throw this one on the postpunk revival pile; i get none of the menace of PiL or grandeur of DI from this, just a half-assed epicness.

thgjyujybujbuubiuiuuubbububibiubuibuibuiuibuib@`, Friday, 13 January 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I did buy this cd btw.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 13 January 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

saw them last night, one of those shows that wasn't a disaster, yet disappointing enough somehow to make me likely never to play the album again. and i liked the album. but i don't like the singer. he mocked new york city at the end of the set, how rock is that

gregor vox (Gregor Vox), Saturday, 14 January 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Aren't they from the Boston area? Mocking NYC is people from Boston do. Get over yerself.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 14 January 2006 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

they are from baltimore.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link

the eastern seaboard is a blur to me.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:18 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Being stuck in summer weather this late in december has had a totally fucked effect on my listening patterns. Wilderness just seems so right these past few weeks, but I can't find any information about any forthcoming records seeing as how their site is down. Anybody heard anything promising lately or are these guys history?

ryborg3k, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 05:40 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Wilderness are playing a few west coast dates starting tonight:

4/10/08 -- San Francisco, CA @ 12 Galaxies w/ Scout Niblett
4/11/08 -- Modesto, CA @ Cafe Deva (1202 J St.) w/ Trees & Vines
4/12/08 -- Los Angeles, CA @ Spaceland w/ Scout Niblett, film projections by artist Charles Long
4/14/08 -- San Diego, CA @ The Casbah w/ Kill Me Tomorrow.

Here's an official news update from Jagjaguwar, which has a link to a clip of their recent performance with Charles Long at the Whitney Biennial.

New album on the way, apparently! I really liked the self-titled record and thought Vessel States was OK, not nearly as striking as the first one. But yeah, color me curious about the new material! I plan to be at the SF show tonight.

mike mike, Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Vessel States was OK, not nearly as striking as the first one.

Too similar in tone and style and pacing to the first one, for me. But yeah, I'm curious about new material, too.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

thirded

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 10 April 2008 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

so the new one leaked

A bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (dan m), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

haven't been able to listen yet but v excited

A bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (dan m), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i loved that first record, still need to get the second one....

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

REALLY? i thought they had broken up. was listening to the first album just this weekend. amazing.

cutty, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I've listened to it a couple of times now and I like it. The song where the Journey-ish bg vocals come in was good and also lol-inducing.

A bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (dan m), Thursday, 18 September 2008 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link

the guitarist's solo project LORD DOG BIRD is v v v v different and waaaay better.

sean gramophone, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Never heard of that. Must check it out. Thanks!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

"chinese whisperers" holy shit

cutty, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

The song where the Journey-ish bg vocals come in was good and also lol-inducing.

What song from the second album were you referring to? Weird, 'cause the P4K review of the third album mentions "keening backing vocals (which, somewhat disconcertingly, recall Journey's Steve Perry)." If I had to pick a current band to be "The New Journey," Wilderness wouldn't be it.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 27 November 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://www.wildernesssounds.com/

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☀ ☃ (am0n), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

he sounds kind of like David Byrne crossed with Fred Schneider

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

lol had you never heard this before? I think John Lydon mid-80s PIL is the cleanest comparison vocal-wise.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link

I hadn't heard it before but I liked some of the bands referred to in the opening post so I thought I'd check it out. Can't say it reminds me too much of the bands mentioned, to be honest. The U2 touchpoint mentioned above seemed more fitting; I can at least hear some elements of U2 in this. I wasn't familiar with 80s PIL, but I'm listening to that now, and it's not a bad reference for the vocals. I do find the singing very distracting with this musical backdrop though... like I said, it almost sounds like he's parodying something.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link

i was also unfamiliar with wilderness. listening to the 1st album now, they kinda sound like kitchens of distinction fronted by david yow. jmtc

cock chirea, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link

i love this band so much

maura, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, always surprising to see Wilderness discussion. Still listen to their albums regularly. Love them so so much as well.

Evan, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 05:05 (nine years ago) link

Every time this post pops up and reminds me to listen to the first album I get so fucking happy.

Oblique Strategies, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 05:21 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQDCdvkeNA

am0n, Friday, 13 May 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

this was a pretty good band, what happened to them?

na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link

funny i just ran across this CD (the debut), stands up great! excellent PIL worship

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

Love this album forever

Evan, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

this was a pretty good band, what happened to them?

― na (NA), Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Every few months I ask myself the same question.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

they were great, played their CD a few months back. Feel in the mood to play it again now

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

i might be crazy but i hear a little bit of their sound in protomartyr. might just be a shared lungfish influence.

na (NA), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Had an urge to listen to the debut and it floors me every time. Post-Plethoric Rhetoric into Fly Further to See is just, fucking hell. Oddly, the album it mostly reminds me of - and it's totally in the rolling tumble and warmth of the rhythm section - is Bob Dylan's Desire.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

I never stopped listening to them! Yeah the sequencing is great there. Debut came out when affected alienating lead vocals were all the rage in indie rock but this album doesn't sound dated cause the whole package is much more art rock than all those buzz bands from that time.

Evan, Sunday, 17 May 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

really great band

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 May 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Put this album on during my evening walk yesterday, and I reached a new level of appreciation for it.
It shouldn't work -- the songs are indistinguishable from one another (except "Marginal Over"), the singer's voice should grate, the influences are too obvious -- but it somehow transcends all of that.

enochroot, Saturday, 2 October 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link

It totally holds up for me! Loved it since it came out in 2005

Evan, Saturday, 2 October 2021 12:03 (two years ago) link

I’ve done away with a lot of promos over the years but have held onto the Wilderness discs.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 October 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

The only thing that didn't age so well for me were the silly backup vocals on the 3rd LP

Evan, Sunday, 3 October 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link

Maybe I shouldn't have listened again in the same week, because now the cracks are starting to show.
The start of the debut album seemed a lot more epic before I paid attention to the lyrics:

Face the facts, oh facts the face, facts the face
Trace the act, oh act the trace, act the trace
Erase the act, oh act the erase, act the erase
Replace the fact, oh fact the replace, fact the replace

Not exactly Leonard Cohen (but certainly to worse than PiL's "Rise", which seems to be a major influence on the vocals)

Still not tired of the drummer's constant fills though.
Also, it sounds like "Post Plethoric Rhetoric" repeats the riff from "Marginal Over" but at half speed, which makes for a nice callback.

enochroot, Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Is this new stuff on Spotify????

yuoowemeone, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 10:26 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cv8hwzHO8M

yuoowemeone, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 10:32 (two years ago) link

I’m not sure if it will be? Does this label usually make these comps available for streaming?

https://www.undertheradarmag.com/news/jagjaguwar_announces_fourth_and_final_installment_of_jag25_series

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 10:46 (two years ago) link

"Those who purchase the zine will receive one of two limited edition cassettes, either that of the previously unreleased Wilderness album Future Seats or..."

So there's a Wilderness album that was never released, but it will be available on cassette only if you hurry.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 11:19 (two years ago) link

AT RANDOM. So you can't even say "Hey, Jagjaguwar, I'd prefer the Wilderness tape, thanks!"

https://www.secretlystore.com/sentimental-noise-various

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 11:22 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Not nearly enough live footage of this band. Came across this recently. YEAH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbz645vP2s

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Monday, 3 July 2023 19:56 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

So Colin McCann and Brian Gossman have a new band - Vulture Feather. They're pretty good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKK4ZU55huA

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Thursday, 27 July 2023 15:38 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Good to see the Wilderness love. Dang, that record is good.

― (picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Indeed it is, as is their new band Vulture Feather: https://vulturefeather.bandcamp.com/album/liminal-fields

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, August 31, 2023 5:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Saturday, 2 September 2023 02:51 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

New EP and forthcoming East Coast US tour: https://vulturefeather.bandcamp.com/album/merge-now-in-friendship

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link

I'm so glad I clicked on this post yesterday because Wilderness was one of my favorite bands of the late aughts and I always wondered what became of them. Liminal Fields is lit. Terrific cover art, too.

Andy Fox, Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:44 (one month ago) link


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