Robeson on Old Man River -- the dirt.

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I'm a big Robeson fan myself - I'm even more of a Sinatra fan, and have his version on a couple of albums (if they are the same version - I'll dig them out to check sometime if I remember), but this is one of those songs that seems totally owned by one person. Even if my favourite singers ever, say James Carr given the style, did it I don't think they could detach it from Paul Robeson.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

i think robeson's backstory gives this song major additional heft. i mean here is an ivy league grad, trained lawyer, singer/actor/athlete, playing a poor stock-character riverhand--he fully transcends the potential indignity of such a role by completely dominating the song and the play/movie when he comes along. actually the role/song was written for him although he wasn't in the original cast of "show boat."

ts: "show boat" vs. "porgy & bess" ???

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

robeson's "ole man river" in the OK-I-think-it's-1936 movie of "Show Boat" is really moving as it occurs over a splendid montage of river/work imagery. its plagency doesn't really have much to do with the plot (it is ahem "color") but i cry every time i see it.

i have a record of paul robeson singing "the internationale" and some russian folk songs.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

true story: there was a lipsync contest in my school in 4th grade and me & my best friend were going to do "old man river" but then his mom told him it would be "racist" becuz of the blackfacish element i suppose but i thought it was stoopid becuz it was an anti-racist song and my dad, an old liberal thort so too.

but he pulled out and did weird al's "living with a hernia" with another friend instead & i did johnny b. goode on my own.

later in high school jm and i talked about but never actually did an ultra-angsty rendition of NIN's "hurt" for that lipsync contest.

i also sorta wanted to do bad bad leroy brown back in 4th grade but never did that, tho me & some friends did "love potion #9" for "50s day" (!) in 7th. (was that you jm? i don't remember. i remember sean tho).

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...
ah robeson

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 7 February 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago) link

seven years pass...

on a robeson kick tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSjO9rIwn5M

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 17 September 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Classic, or the most talented person of the 20th century?

http://lareviewofbooks.org/essay/long-overdue-paul-robeson-revival-talented-person-20th-century

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 May 2014 09:20 (nine years ago) link

Probably so, yeah.

emil.y, Saturday, 10 May 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

“His life and legacy was the film I wanted to make the second after Hunger,” McQueen said, referring to his debut movie, about the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands. “But I didn’t have the power, I didn’t have the juice.”

McQueen was speaking on stage in New York at the Hidden Heroes awards, organised by the Andrew Goodman Foundation, named in honour of one of three young civil rights activists murdered by the Ku Klux Klan in Mississippi in 1964.

The director told the audience that he first discovered Robeson at the age of 14. A neighbour called Mr Milton used to give McQueen books and articles he thought might be of interest, and one day put a cutting about Robeson through his parents’ letterbox.

“It was about this black guy who was in Wales and was singing with these miners,” remembered McQueen. “I was about 14 years old, and not knowing who Paul Robeson was, this black American in Wales, it seemed strange. So then, of course, I just found out that this man was an incredible human being.”

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/nov/18/steve-mcqueen-to-make-film-about-paul-robeson

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 12:52 (nine years ago) link

cool

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

i tried reading that "la review of books" article but the font was so horrendous (particularly on the letter b) that i had to give up! i wish i wasn't such an oversensitive crank. :(

rushomancy, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

no sign of the feature film yet, but hoping to see this McQueen-Robeson thing tonight

http://whitney.org/Exhibitions/OpenPlanSteveMcQueen

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

wish a director i liked more was doing a robeson biopic but oh well

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

actually there's no reason to have a biopic at all, but you can extend that to most every subject

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Simon Callow reviews a pair of new Robeson books.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/02/08/emperor-paul-robeson/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Paul Robeson pic.twitter.com/gxFue7jJdf

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