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i love mm's tunes, but do you think his new video's have lost a slight bit of novelty to them? i, too, totally agree with dan, if my opinion counts :)

ryan hoffman, Thursday, 11 September 2003 16:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Mechanical Animals seemed to be an exciting step forward, but since then I just feel he's regressed. Pretty good singles artist, though.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Thursday, 11 September 2003 17:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Mechanical Animals was definately the best. I agree with most of what's being said here; great recycler, good singles artist, etc.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 11 September 2003 18:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i love his stuff pre Holy Wood.

IMO, one of the not so obvious reasons for his success in his earlier career was the depth of the imagery, which appealed to fans looking for something to escape into. (just like tolkien and star trek fans) He borrowed from alot of rich sources in the beginning (weird kids movies on portrait, biblical and "gothic" images on antichrist, glam futurism on mechanical animals) and i think the reason im not so into his recent stuff is because he has run out of sets of imagery to steal. mech. animals has some goddamn great songs.

mini search, trying not to do obvious ones here:
user friendly
the reflecting god
cake and sodomy

astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 11 September 2003 18:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i used to run with the manson fans in high school.
what would they say if they saw me now with fiddy cent,justin timberlake and neptunes beats over-populating my playlist?

astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 11 September 2003 18:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

'indie guilt!!'

trife (simon_tr), Thursday, 11 September 2003 18:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

mechanical animals had some amazing pop songs on it. I think MM got too worried that he was going to lose his base after the album got him alot of props and attention so he regressed, which is a damn shame.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 11 September 2003 18:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The only album I have and have really heard is the latest, The Golden Age Of The Grotesque. For about 2/3s of the way through it's quite enjoyable in an Electric Six/Rob Zombie kind of disco-metal/clowny big talk way. Plenty of songs better than the goddamn "Dope Show." The cabaret influence is quite nice, but it's way too long though.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 11 September 2003 20:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

if anyones still interested, id love to do a C/D on some individual songs.

astroblaster (astroblaster), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 12 September 2003 00:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

how about my picks from earlier starting with "user friendly" from Mechanical Animals

astroblaster (astroblaster), Friday, 12 September 2003 01:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I cannot share the anti-"Dope Show" hate, to my ears "We're all stars now/in the dope show" is one of the best pop-song heroin lines I've ever heard

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't remember why I used to dislike him, "Dope Show" is such a classic single.

Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I do remember why I disliked him for a long time: he copped fully half of his schtick from a dead friend of mine & gives no props

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 12 September 2003 02:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Back in 97 or 98 M.M. played Wheeling WV, and my friends went, and they made Steve Ching (Asian kid w/ baggy pants) strap Bone Warriors (Bop Bags, you know, big inflatable things that are weighted at the bottom w/ sand so you can punch'em and they'll sway back up, but these ones had skeletons on skeleton horses with swords and they were called 'Skull Force' and they were $1.99 at Big Lots) to his legs under his pants and then while inside the concert they inflated the Bone Warriors and lofted them onto the pit, and whilst singing, Marylin caught sight of one of them and stuttered.

They did the same thing at Lollapalooza and knocked a girl out while DEVO was playing. Cause Bone Warriors are heavy. When thrown.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Friday, 12 September 2003 03:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

he copped fully half of his schtick from a dead friend of mine

But was it that friend necessarily or ultimately Alice Cooper? Though I agree Alice was never quite so confrontational on certain points as was RW.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 September 2003 05:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't own any MM cds but I saw him open for Sabbath a few years back and damn, he is a for real rock star on stage. I like his videos too, especially the one with the Godess Bunny (sp?). I'm not quite a fan but MM is anything but dull.

Brandon Welch (Brandon Welch), Friday, 12 September 2003 05:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'll stick with Acid Bath by Alien Sex Fiend, thanks.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 12 September 2003 06:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i wish he would kill eminem

Vic (Vic), Friday, 12 September 2003 06:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

fourteen years pass...


more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 1 October 2017 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

from the "only in the '90s" files...friend of mine linked this on FB....the story of the night Arab on Radar opened for Marilyn Manson and almost didn't live to tell about it!

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:43 (one year ago) Permalink

After Marilyn Manson’s longtime bassist Twiggy Ramirez (born Jeordie White) was accused of rape, the band has decided to let him go. Tonight, Manson tweeted a statement announcing his decision to part ways with White. “He will be replaced for the upcoming tour,” he wrote. “I wish him well.” See the tweet below. On October 21, Jessicka Addams of Jack Off Jill accused White of a violent rape during their romantic relationship in the ‘90s—read her full post on Facebook. At the time, Manson released a statement regarding the accusations, saying that he “knew nothing about these allegations until very recently” and that he was “saddened by Jessicka’s obvious distress.”

nomar, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Sometimes I post on ILM. I haven't been here in a while, so, many of you probably won't remember me.

Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this, but the search function didn’t return any other threads.
(And please note that my post contains an attempt to post some web links/hyperlinks, and that feature on ILM doesn’t always work for my fairly old laptop, so I’m not sure if the links will post, but I hope they do.)

With the recent news of Manson’s stage injury & the rape allegations against Twiggy Ramirez, an additional recent important news story related to Marilyn Manson seems to have been overlooked at ILM, because it’s not on this thread (and I can’t find another ILM thread for it): The sad news that on Sunday, Oct. 22, 2017, Scott Mitchell Putesky (AKA Daisy Berkowitz) died of cancer at age 49. RIP.

Since I didn’t see any mention of this on this thread, I didn’t know if there is some other thread I should be posting this on at ILM. (If so, please let me know.)

For those who are interested, here’s a news article about this: There are quite a few such articles in many of the online publications (Rolling Stone, Washington Post, etc. Though, I think the Washington Post article might be behind a paywall.)

Here are some additional online articles, for those who are interested:

Sadly, this is real news, not fake news.

YouTube also has some tribute/memorial videos.

Maybe no one at ILM cares about this piece of news, and that’s why this is not mentioned on this thread. If so, that’s unfortunate, to say the least.

am.curious.sometimes, Sunday, 29 October 2017 11:54 (one year ago) Permalink

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