The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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''Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!''

I deal in facts. you deal in myths.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Going back to the ULU show in 1990, Colm's drumming was fucking breathtaking. And in such heat. The walls were literally melting. I think that Sonic Boom supported in solo guise - the usual indie liggers of the day were propping up the bar (hello Miki!).

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Snowpony, I think. 'Snowplough' is a million times better, though.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Shields has been christened "Bagpuss" by the Primal Scream clan. Anyone know the origin of this? A friend of mine always said that MBV gave off the appearance of being unwashed and slightly smelly.

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Julio I gotta say:

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

seems roughly equal to "I will spin it positively for the subculture I like, and negatively for the one I don't" - if indie is "dead," then free jazz has decomposed. I happen to like both so whateveh, but I just wanted to say.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like both too (well, not everything, its a case by case basis). I was just playing around.

(but actually, indie is not that much of a 'subculture' anymore whereas 60s jazz and free improv (there is a distinction here btw), despite being older, has more of that, but that doesn't matter)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

colm still plays with hope sandoval and if i'm not completely mistaken he and she are married and both live in berkeley.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they live near berkeley in kensington.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I thought Hope Sandoval was hanging with William Reid, or is that mouldy old corn?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Damn, this thread is turning into paparazzi press!

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 15:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Charlie, yer gossip is about ten years out of date!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

saw the Lost in Translation trailer!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
did I just completely miss this???

http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1431220.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Apparently you're not alone. But at least it's there!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

also, finally a new fansite:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

With all the MBV dropping on ILM and the gaze thing and the fact that Kevin did several songs on Lost In Translation I would hope so. I hope so.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields and Ned Raggett are slowly merging into one being:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/images/filter03.jpg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Curt1s, Curt1s - be careful what you wish for!

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That joke has been made several times now on many threads! First by me I think. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

He loves cheese.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

A'right then, Ned. You've recorded you 'Ecstasy & Wine' now, obviously. When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields is my Friendster.

Kevin Shields
Member Since May 2003
Last Login 01/06/2004 

Gender:
Male

Interested in
Meeting People for:
Friends, Activity Partners

Status:
Single

Age:
40

Occupation:
Recording artist & dyslexia spokesman

Location:
United Kingdom

Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland

Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!

Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones

Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.

About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.

Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sure sounds like him!

When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

I must achieve my breakthrough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that profile is CLASSIC.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hands up who owns his remix of Hurricane £1? < /old Select jokes>

Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Shields lives in Long Island now? Where?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the duties + demands placed on a dyslexia spokesman are immense¡
do you people really think he has time for anything else¿
surely he has found his true calling.

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Can someone post the link to 'What Kevin Shields is doing now'?

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 22:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
site says to expect this in late '05 or early '06...

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/news/boxset.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

hmmm don't mean to be a cynical carl but i don't believe any of that page for a damn second.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

last i'd heard the retrospective was a double CD, not a million disc double box set

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

well, until then we'll have this "City Girl" video:

http://metroencoding.net/emperornorton/ref/kevinshields_city-girl_320x180_large-REF.mov

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
uh, has there been any speak of Kevin Shields playing this years Meltdown!?

what on earth is he going to play?

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 29 April 2005 22:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

WHOA.

"The Coral Sea 0 Text: Patti Smith Music: Patti Smith, Kevin Shields, Cat Power (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 22 June)"

I am so FUCKING there.

box.of.rox, Friday, 29 April 2005 23:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Now furiously googling for cheap flights to London.

box.of.rox, Friday, 29 April 2005 23:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm sure whatever it is, it'll be good. :-) Pity I'll miss it by two weeks!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

what is this exactly?

Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It's this thing.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you would sit through the whole of horses to see kevin shields eat some pie? that's dedication.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'll have to ask him about this if I can get him on the phone soon -- supposed to talk for the "Loveless" book I hope to finish in two weeks.

Ohh shit should I start a thread here trawling for questions here for Mr. Shields, or is that redundant?

I tried trawling through here for ideas for the book a year ago and it all just seemed so redundant to type "Loveless" in the search engine, since almost every single thread came up! Hah.

What I REALLY need is help tracking down any of the people who worked on the album (esp. any of the 57 engineers) now that I got my "high quality" (hah) VOIP on and can make free phone calls to the UK...

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

xpost
What on earth do you mean, "sit through"? I fucking LOVE Horses. All the more reason.

box.of.rox, Friday, 29 April 2005 23:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Ohh shit should I start a thread here trawling for questions here for Mr. Shields, or is that redundant?" - The most obvious questions seem so sadly unanswerable..

I'm greatly interested in your book, Michael. Do you have a title for it?

Steve Gertz (sgertz), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ohh sorry to assume everyone knows I'm doing this, hah -- first Mr. Keenan was supposed to do it then he had to bail, and I've taken a few months more than I was supposed to to write the thing -- but somehow that's all fitting given the topic, right? That's what I tell myself anyway!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826415482

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you've spoken to mcgee already?

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Nope, put mutltiple requests in but never heard back! I dunno if he doesn't want to talk or maybe my contact info is bogus? I'll keep trying.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You asked for it. You've dreamed of it. Now finally, together, for one night only: Steve Earle and Patti Smith (Royal Festival Hall, 19)!!!!

john'n'chicago, Friday, 29 April 2005 23:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"horses" is a peice of shit

Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You mean "piece"? In any case, I do not agree, obviously.

Glad to hear that the 33-1/3 book on Loveless is well under way -- been waiting for that one. Sorry, can't think of any good questions off the top of my head, only idiotic/boring ones.

box.of.rox, Friday, 29 April 2005 23:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Question one: To Here Knows When...HOW?

Question two: Really?

The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah...piece

Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

xp. really? spacious is not the term i'd associate with this track. i find it claustrophobic and oppressive, as if a dark cloud would be above me which is just about to disintegrate into pouring rain. it has got a little bit of the godspeed crescendo formula going on where the music is building up all the time which i find really annoying these days. in the end the music builds down again but it does not really help. i very much prefer the tracks from "on land". i guess that is as there are real nature recordings on it and not onyl synthie washes.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:55 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I knew I could count on you to hate this amazing music

sleeve, Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:16 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i find it claustrophobic and oppressive, as if a dark cloud would be above me which is just about to disintegrate into pouring rain.

Sounds like a rave review!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:36 (four weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, i mean that sounds right, but at some point the cloud suddenly clears and you are bathed in glorious sunlight, you know?

tylerw, Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

the part 2/3 in where the accompaniment (presumably eno's?) drops out, and then the sound comes back in - goosebumps. so good. also i feel like a doofus because i don't know how to refer to whatever shields is doing (presumably - also i feel like a doofus because i'm just assuming kevin shields is doing the kevin shieldsy-noise and eno is making the eno-noise) - "the sound"? the guitar? waves of guitar noise? fuck. it's good though.

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 October 2017 00:21 (four weeks ago) Permalink

^^ yes especially when the pitch starts to bend up and the noise kicks back in

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 00:34 (four weeks ago) Permalink

maybe that note isn't bending... hard to tell before it gets subsumed back into the wall of noise

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 00:36 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Any way to download an MP3 of this somewhere?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 27 October 2017 06:51 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Οὖτις’s link above still works

willem, Friday, 27 October 2017 06:53 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Grabbed it on slsk last night

calstars, Friday, 27 October 2017 14:08 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Getting Blade Runner vibes off this. The chimes obviously, but also the sweeping bendy notes, CS-80 swapped out for guitar.

Noel Emits, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:55 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Good new interview with more engaging lies from Kevin about when a new album will come out.

https://pitchfork.com/features/interview/my-bloody-valentines-kevin-shields-dissects-his-new-loveless-vinyl-remaster-talks-new-album/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Hey Kevin: less talk, more action

calstars, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Less talk?

imago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Good interview with him. I sort of feel the same way he feels about volume. I've seen lots of shows and lots of loud shows and rarely ever wear earplugs, yet I don't think my years at 42 are bad. In fact, I think they're still pretty good, and I've always wondered if that had something to do with how I listen to music versus how loud I listen to music. Though tbh, I don't listen to music at home or in the car, or on headphones, at high volumes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

so tour summer 2018 then, and he's "100%" certain (:D) that the new album will be out around then? cool!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

kevin shields is the friend you tell to show up 3 hours earlier than everyone else

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The Eno-Shields is EXACTLY how you'd think that would go. Its an 'this is ok and here is why' sorta thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4d8wA9XieQ

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 26 October 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's beautiful.

Has anyone put together a comp of these one-off tracks and remixes he has put out over the years before their last album?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 November 2017 15:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It's interesting that they must have decided not to rebuild the album cross-fades as a live mixdown and instead spent a year making custom edit blocks to do it! Presumably so the timing is as close to the original possible.

Surely they weren't editing the original masters so this analogue cut will be from a 3rd generation(?) tape.

Noel Emits, Thursday, 2 November 2017 16:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

apropos of nothing, here is a youtube mbv cover which i find inspiring. skip to 1:58

phenibut rock (rip van wanko), Thursday, 2 November 2017 16:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

came across this jpop song from 1997 recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQNw8CwsyKg

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Wow, that is kind of impressive how well they integrated that into the song. It almost feels like a sample.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Good, that.

Mark G, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I don't actually listen to a lot of live shows, but came across this recently and it's really something. "Isn't Anything" era soundboard recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfNki8XTw5U

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

0:00:00 - You Never Should
0:03:52 - Cigarette In Your Bed
0:07:55 - Sueisfine
0:10:28 - Cupid Come
0:15:04 - Lose My Breath
0:19:09 - Nothing Much To Lose
0:23:19 - Thorn
0:27:11 - I Can See It (But I Can't Feel It)
0:31:26 - Soft As Snow (But Warm Inside)
0:34:03 - Feed Me With Your Kiss
0:38:21 - When You Wake (You're Still In A Dream)
0:42:24 - Slow
0:46:11 - You Made Me Realise
0:52:45 - Lovelee Sweet Darlene

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thank you Spencer.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 3 November 2017 06:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks, sounding great.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 November 2017 11:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I must admit (sorry...) that this band is not my cup of tea ...and sincerely, i thought my recording was completely failed cause the voices are very blurred in the mix ... But no, it's the way they sound ...

lol

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Friday, 3 November 2017 15:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this has gotten me to revisit MBV which I hadn't listened to much in the past two years. It's very good! It's certainly a less produced album than loveless.

akm, Friday, 3 November 2017 19:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Belinda's vox missing from this SB recording... :-(

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Otherwise, A+

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Very extensive new interview with the man:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/my-bloody-valentines-kevin-shields-looks-back-on-loveless-w509837

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:50 (one week ago) Permalink


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