Roky on the 13th Floor - C or D / S&D

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there's a real fine comp of roky covers that came out in 1990..."where the pyramid meets the eye". Lots of interesting stuff on that one. Even the ZedZedTop version of Reverberation is great.

pauls00, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tribute albums suck crap.

duane, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Most tribute albums suck crap. I will admit that. But at least two of them have proved to be of lasting use to me. The first was the 13th Floor Elevators tribute (was it my imagination or was the Spacemen3 version of Rollercoaster on it or not?) and funnily enough, the second was the Spacemen3 tribute album.

With regards to "Circle" - the differences between the traditional song and the Elevators song is what caused me to say "version" rather than "cover".

Kate the Saint, Saturday, 28 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Which alb is 'It's All Over Now Baby Blue' on? 'Cos that's one of the greatest Dylan covers of all time.

Best Elevators cover version - Television doing 'Fire Engine'.

Andrew L, Saturday, 28 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
andrew that's on easter everywhere

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 18:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

anyway i've revived this becuz someone (willem i think) asked me if there were any differences between easter and psychedelic sounds (the first alb).

I said i would buy it and tell him. so i have and i think Kate does a good description of both in this thread and I'd say that if you like Easter than get it. both are similar soundwise (but they had a unique sound and that is what's important) and the songwriting is strong on both.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

The first two 13th Floor Elevators albums are great, the live albums/boots and "Bull of the Woods" are not very good.

Roky's solo albums are REAL spotty. The compilation "Your Going to Miss Me" is not bad, but the real good album is the one on Trance Syndicate "All That May Do My Rhyme", which has actually has good sound and is put together well, unlike most of those shoddy records.

I also really like that cover of "Baby Blue", his voice fits that song quite well.

earlnash, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 21:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Where the Pyramid Meets the Eye was great, and was my introduction to Roky -- I still love Sister Double Happiness's "Red Temple Prayer" and the Judybats' "She Lives," both of which I found on mp3, since the cassette is long since lost.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 21:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey! thanx for remembering that, julio!
i've seen an excellent re-issue on 180g vinyl last week, my hands started itching... but my wallet said no (i recently moved into a new appartment...) but i don't think i'll wait much longer before i buy it anyway...

willem (willem), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 12:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

check yer second hand shops willem. the rec might be there on the cheap!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 16:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
i listened to 'bull of the woods' again at the weekend, probably for the first time in 10 years, as I had written it off except for "may the circle...". Weirdly, I loved it!

the production is really, really lo-fi but the sound of that band! what a feel they had! it's that seemingly lazy and relaxed groove that the early 70s Stones had too. And even the lyrics are great - 'Dear Dr. Doom' , a letter to Bob Dylan, that song about being in a thunderstorm and hearing your name called from an alley..... wow!

Dave Amos, Monday, 10 May 2004 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link

i woz an elevators novice until about 2 weeks ago and holy fuck i am a convert. i love the electric jug!

mullygrubber (gaz), Monday, 10 May 2004 08:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"Bull of the Woods" is fucking great. Stacy Sutherland is one of my favourite guitarists and, in places, the album is uncannily like a Texan Amon Duul II. Not enough Roky vocals and hardly any jug but we can't have everything can we?

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 10 May 2004 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link

was stacey sutherland the lead or rhythm player? both are excellent. the bass sounds on that album are occasionally mixed so deep as to be almost king tubby-esque! also, choirs and brass section popping up randomly...

Dave Amos, Monday, 10 May 2004 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link

'tis a great album, I assume Sutherland was the lead player as I believe Roky was banged up the in the asylum, courtesy of the Austin Police Department, when much of it was recorded - hence the lack of his vocals

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:08 (nineteen years ago) link

eighteen years pass...

Good short podcast episode by Andrew Hickey.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

Which alb is 'It's All Over Now Baby Blue' on? 'Cos that's one of the greatest Dylan covers of all time.
Best Elevators cover version - Television doing 'Fire Engine'.

― Andrew L, Friday, July 27, 2001 8:00 PM (twenty-one years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still think Vince Gillian dropped the ball and should have used that floor the Breaking Bad finale.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 29 July 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

'It's All Over Now Baby Blue'

Wish they'd learned the chords before playing it, though. Every other song on Easter Everywhere is great though.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 30 July 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

Fuck learning chords, it's brilliant.

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 July 2022 08:05 (one year ago) link

^new borad description

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 July 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link

Seriously though the fact that they're not sticking slavishly to the original and are kind of winging it is one of things that make it so great. I'm sure Bob would agree!

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 July 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

They play the "yonder stands your orphan" chords over nearly the entire song, it's maddening! A waste of a nice, evocative arrangement.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 30 July 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

Thanks, good caveat. This is concise, in-depth roadmap, up through early years of thee final flowering:https://michaelcorcoran.substack.com/p/rokys-return-to-the-river-of-golden
from main Roky thread: Roky Erickson

dow, Saturday, 30 July 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah I've never been bothered by the liberties they take with the chords on "Baby Blue". Anyway the "yonder stands your orphan" bit of the original chord progression (ii IV I, I believe) is my favorite part of it, so I dig that they "zoomed in" on that part.

Anyway I'd just like to mention how amazing "Postures (Leave Your Body Behind)" is. I guess on the album with "Slip Inside This House", "Postures" has to be considered the "other epic" but it's such a soulful, uplifting song about surrendering your mind to the psychedelic void. That whole album is utter perfection imo

J. Sam, Saturday, 30 July 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, soulfulness could seep in at any tyme, if you held on through tumult---also in some I mentioned on the xpost main Roky thread:

..the relatively mellow songs on 90s collections All That May Do My Rhyme and Never Say Goodbye, and the 2010 True Love Cast Out All Evil, with material spanning 40 years, and, wiki notes, "members of Okkervil River on most songs as Erickson's backing band"
Of this last, Michael Cochran says in piece linked above:
In 2010, Erickson made his first album in a decade and a half, backed by Austin indie-rock darlings Okkervil River. It seemed an odd musical coupling at first- Austin's mystical madman and its articulate Pitchfork band. Erickson’s triumphant return to performing was based on his ability to rock hard on such setlist exclamations as "Don’t Slander Me," "Two-Headed Dog" and "Slip Inside This House," so it was assumed that his comeback album would be one of screeching vocals and big sonic strokes.

But producer Will Sheff, the Okkervil River guide, had a different idea. True Love Cast Out All Evil (Anti Records) was a record of tattered little songs that had practically been abandoned, brought back in a spiritual whirl of dust and hope.

"I obsessively listened to about 60 songs that Roky had written, that were either never recorded or minimally released," Sheff said. Although he's a fan of Erickson's "horror rock" material, Sheff found himself drawn more to the songs of simple grace. "Roky was in a prison for two years and he had to come to terms with the thought that his musical career could be over," said Sheff. Such freshly recorded songs as the title track, the delicately moving "Forever," the haunting "Goodbye Sweet Dreams" and the album's hinge "Please Judge" were the soundtrack to the years when he went from Austin's golden child to its most notorious recluse. “These songs were written to serve the immediate purpose of keeping him sane,” said Sheff. “They're so powerful."

"Roky's one of the greatest rock 'n' roll singers of all time and a completely unique guitar player,” said Sheff, who earned a Grammy nomination for his liner notes. “But I think the way I've most been influenced by working with him is in his lyrics, the way he puts words together in a totally jarring way. He's created his own private vocabulary.”

https://michaelcorcoran.substack.com/p/rokys-return-to-the-river-of-golden
Not everybody dug it, but "a spiritual whirl of dust and hope" sounds right.

dow, Saturday, 30 July 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link


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