'An erotic thriller'

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I always mistook an Erotic Thriller for a porno film featuring Michael Jackson, zombies & werewolves.

Lek Dukagjin, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

skinemax and any other movie channel on friday nights has all the hits. Sometimes they get quite dirty. Usually at 11pm I've invested half my evening in the beer and am pretty flaccid at this point, so they serve me no purpose.

Chris, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Skinemax and Hotime!

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ha! Hadn't heard the Hotime one before. I have a stash of wonderfully ridiculous ex-porns, as I call them, taped from Cinemax back in the late eighties and early nineties. Since all the actual sex was cut out of these various seventies Eurodisasters, that just left the plot, the costumes and the bad acting. Perfection!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

They make me imagine young well-groomed born-again Christian couples trying to "spice up" their sex lives. And they're so glammy: I wish they would do more with barbarians and pirates and such, as opposed to yachts or "the s(t)eamy underbelly of Hollywood." I don't understand this middling porn: either masturbate or don't, damnit.

nabisco, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

and they always star the one and only Gary Hudson. http://www.showcase.ca/paradisefalls/images/cast/Brick_Madison.jpg

Chris, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who is he, the Peter North you can take home to mother or something?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

he's in as many of those flicks as shannon tweed.

Chris, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

and lets not forget Julie Strain.

Chris, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lisa Boyle!!

jel --, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Erotic thriller' is not unique in its guarantee to be neither of the things making up its title. When applied to British films (usually from the '70s), 'sex comedy' is equally certain to mean a film that is neither sexy nor funny. I've noticed that 'comedy dramas' on ITV are tending this way too. Are there other examples?

Martin Skidmore, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I saw (when we had the telly) the one where shannon tweed is an undercover cop, who busts a big drug dealer by shagging him (& others). I also saw on where a rich family all hate each other, until they take in a HOT lodger (i can't remember if this was also shannon tweed) who shags every member of the family, after which they all like each other again. On this (admittedly small) sampling, they would seem to propose that any problems you may encounter can be solved by having soft focus sex w/everyone you come into daily contact w/. If only life were so simple. I wd love to say that ms Tweed is wonderful etc, and that such films are GRATE, but the ones I mention above were shit. I wonder if history will judge "Basic Instinct" as a part of this genre. I do hope so.

Norman Phay, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

www.moviemugs.com/mgst02.JPG

HA HA HA HA HA

Norman Phay, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.moviemugs.com/mgst02.JPG

GAH.

Norman Phay, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight years pass...

why did erotic thrillers have to die as a genre? I really love them.

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:13 (thirteen years ago) link

im watching poison ivy starring DREW BARRYMORE on instant netflix right now

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link

1) Lisa Boyle was way hott!! She was in like the first Bad Boys movie.

2) Blue Sunshine is a movie I desperately want to see.

3) The movie that Norman Phay was talking about, about the family that hates each other, is called Friend of the Family starring Shauna O'Brien as Elke the hot tenant that shags everyone.

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

didnt u see CHLOE

Gukbe, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

im watching poison ivy starring DREW BARRYMORE on instant netflix right now

Is that the one with Max Headroom as the dad?

Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link

tom skerritt is the dad

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link

what does everyone think of SLIVER? the soundtrack is pretty great.

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i think in 1994 the concept of PEOPLE WATCHING YOU was way more edgy.

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Doesn't Poison Ivy have Alyssa Milano in it as well? The sequel is where the blond girl from My Name is Earl got her big break...

Even though I've seen Exotica, I'm still kinda weirded out about Egoyan making high-class softcore...there was a time in my adolescence when I was a little obsessed w Canadian art-films, and I really liked The Sweet Hereafter...

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Poison Ivy 2 has Alyssa Milano in it

Poison Ivy 3 is the one w/ Jaime Presley

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i like erotic thrillers with sexual awakenings (poison ivy 2, lake consequence) but i also like ones about women being stalked (lady beware, sliver)

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link

You ever see Boxing Helena?

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link

No idea why I had Matt Frewer in my mind as a guy getting cut with a knife in that movie.

Meanwhile, this is hilarious:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8066/screenshot20110227at125.png

Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link

yes ive seen boxing helena tons of times

its pretty ridic

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i used to think that sex scene in boxing helena w/ julian sands and the nurse was soooooooooooo hot

i was like 15

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link

has anyone seen lake consequence?

its pretty great. its also on instant netflix.

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eNUq7004WI

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i also HIGHLY RECOMMEND the lifetime movie with eric roberts (love him) and anne heche - FATAL DESIRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFS2B6W6Y8o

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I saw Lake CQ way back in the day. My memory's a bit fuzzy about the actual movie but there was a jacuzzi 3some on the video box; I'll never forget that.

One movie like that I always wanted to check out but never did was Angels and Insects. Did you ever see that one, h2?

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yup, seen it. i dont really think of that as an erotic thriller, though. the costumes are pretty.

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's worth a watch, though

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember a movie with Anne Heche and Joan Chen in it called Wild Side. Theywere lesbian hookers in it iirc. Christopher Walken was in it too. He fuck some dude in the ass for trying to rape one of the women.

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(I probably wouldn't call that movie an erotic thriller either)

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:15 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mvEazWjM-0

ugh, billy baldwin is so gross

homosexual II, Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link

See, is he in that? I only saw the last third of the movie, and it was years and years ago. I only mentioned it bcz of the Heche/Chen connection...

I used to be obsessed with all sorts of random movies I watched on late night HBO or Cinemax. There was this weird European B-movie called Night of the Archer that I saw once and was obsessed with for a long time...

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:38 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I'm back!!!!

With one of my FAVORITE EROTIC THRILLERZ,

STARRING BRUCE WILLIS

'COLOR OF NIGHT'

Okay so this movie is really amazing. I remember when it came out on VHS in 1994 my sister rented it and it really blew my mind.

So here's the sitch: BILL CAPA (DIE HARD's BRUCE WILLIS) is a psychiatrist who is suffering from MAJOR GUILT and COLOR BLINDNESS (GET IT--COLOR of NIGHT? GET IT???) after his amazing patient, Michelle, jumps out of a building after a confrontation. Seriously, Michelle is only in the movie for about two minutes and they are the best two minutes of the movie.

DON'T BELIEVE ME, PLEASE WATCH THIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm9gGo_i0ls&feature=player_embedded

The score is also really amazing and reminds me of PC adventure games like THE 7TH GUEST

So anyway, after BILL CAPA experiences this TERRIFYING EVENT, he goes to visit his long time colleague, Bob--played by SCOTT BAKULA.

Are you into this yet?

Anyway, anyway, BOB is ALSO a shrink and leads some group therapy session comprised of a motley crue of rag tag crazies (GROUP OF CRAZIES: LESLIE ANN WARREN, the guy who plays the robot in ALIENS, the doctor from DEADWOOD, and someone that looks like an extra from Planet of the Apes). BUT THEN OMG BOB DIES AND BILL HAS TO TAKE OVER THE THERAPY GROUP. DO PEOPLE REALLY HAVE THERAPY GROUPS LIKE THIS? Somehow the therapy group scenes really remind me of the movies my friends and I made in highschool, with really over the top dialogue and ridiculousness.

BILL then meets a sexy girl with rabbit teeth and gross hair and they pork in the pool and there's this amazing sex scene montage. The best bit is after they're fucking Bruce has this really outrageous sounding grunting orgasm, and rabbit teeth girl is gasping, "I WANT YOU TO GET DRESSED UP FOR ME!" Cut to Bruce in a monkey suit seated at a table. Rabbit teeth girl makes him a steak and sits at the table naked. He says he's not hungry. She says, "I have something you might want..." CUT RIGHT BACK TO THEM PORKING WHILE THE SOARING SOUNDTRACK BLARES! It's out of this world!

So it turns out someone in the therapy sesh is one of the killers, OBVIOUSLY

I WON'T GIVE ANY SPOILERS but the movie goes on about 30 minutes too long but every single second of it is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-TPQSYZI_Y

homosexual II, Friday, 17 June 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

they don't make these anymore, do they? such an 80s/early 90s thing

S: Wild Orchid, 9 1/2 Weeks, Blown Away

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 June 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

Dressed to Kill = gold standard.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, internet porn killed this sexy genre

homosexual II, Friday, 17 June 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

the one with max headroom is "far from home" which is a really weird mix of erotic thriller and abc afterschool special.

this may have been mentioned already.

it seems i am the larry (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

I see Boxing Helena is mentioned upthread, that movie is amazing.

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Boxing Helena

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

omg "Far From Home"! what a weird fucking movie

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

"okay, so it's gonna be 'deliverance' meets 'my girl'."

it seems i am the larry (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

haha i dont even think 'my girl' had come out at that point but it gives you the general vibe

it seems i am the larry (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

wait waht

maybe I should see this

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

i think the two shifts totally go hand in hand: i absolutely associate the 80s new wavification of rock with the mainstreaming of the erotic thriller -- not least bcz the texture of music videos permeated the early 80s films in this vein (and vice versa)

mark s, Sunday, 27 August 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

Excellent point but you have inexplicably omitted Sheena Easton's "Sugar Walls."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Alq8rJIbo

Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 27 August 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

"Self Control" definitely. All that exciting danger a liberated woman encounters.

Definitely why Dressed to Kill fits.

Also, random notes:

Jonathan Rosenbaum on Basic Instinct: https://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/how-to-write-a-3-million-script/Content?oid=879416

Fatal Attraction is the all-time hit of this genre, isn't it?

And given how long it took Kubrick to make Eyes WideShut, he must've started in on it around that time.

Eazy, Sunday, 27 August 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

So why did "In the Cut" end Meg Ryan's career? It's not great but she is not particularly terrible, nor is it by any means embarrassing. It's just a creepy little movie.

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

It didn't, iirc. I want to say the nail in the coffin - beyond just her entering upper middle age and getting written out of roles like Renee Russo on down - was a few years earlier, with "Proof of Life," when her affair with Russel Crowe (right?) got her branded the proverbial other woman and she became tabloid fodder. I suppose it's more accurate to say "In the Cut" killed Campion's Hollywood hopes.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link

It's well-made and directed imo

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link

It was fine, iirc. But maybe, especially a few years post Piano, so anonymously 'erotic thriller" that no one cared. That's why I don't think it's Meg that it killed, any more than, say, Sliver killed Sharon Stone's career. Which, of course, it didn't, if you include "Casino," but that was an outlier. It feels that Sliver (like Jade did for Linda Fiorentino) really reduced her to a joke, even if Joe Eszterhas was ultimately to blame for both. And those plus Showgirls killed his career as much as it did theirs.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link

That is, all those movies took down their respective auteurs and while not necessarily their leads, they seemed to go down with them.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 November 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Adrian Lyne and Ben Affleck are bringing it back, baby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Water_(2021_film)

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Further to which

Crazy gossip from work I can’t not share: at least one of the big streamers wants to bring back erotic thrillers. (Can’t wait for a new Adrian Lyne movie)

— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) May 8, 2021

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link

let's goooooooo

call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link

"I hear you're a...big streamer..."

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:24 (two years ago) link

from peppe the piss pig, a watersports-themed erotic thriller

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Sunday, 9 May 2021 02:34 (two years ago) link

straight to streaming erotic thrillers sounds like a goldmine

this is definitely Prime if it's true

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Sunday, 9 May 2021 03:20 (two years ago) link

hope all erotic thriller fans are aware of the delightful and odd podcast NIGHT TIME FOR ONE
http://nighttimeforone.com/

sean gramophone, Sunday, 9 May 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link

I love Prime it's such a weird chaotic mess, there are some crazy weird 70s movies down in the Prime basement

four months pass...

the voyeurs which has just popped up on amazon prime def looks like it’s got this vibe

just sayin, Saturday, 11 September 2021 09:17 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-xndtrXsAAc2VH.jpg

just sayin, Saturday, 11 September 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link

C5 have been repeating Red Shoe Diaries, just in case you missed David Duchovny reading steamy letters to a dog.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 September 2021 11:23 (two years ago) link

read Michael Mohan as Michael Chabon at first

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 11 September 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link

three months pass...
two months pass...

Some films discussed in the season will be American Gigolo, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Fatal Attraction, as well as works from Steven Soderbergh and Brian De Palma, among others. Each episode will focus on one year, discussing movies and stars, with the season culminating in the year 1999, focusing on Stanley Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

hmm

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link

no skerritt no credibility

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link

I was actually just thinking about Jade the other day and Linda Fiorentino, surely one of the undisputed queens of the genre

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link

Fast Times seems somewhat out of place there

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link

Well the net seems to be cast a bit broadly, no bad thing.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

last american virgin seems to fit the bill, as well

Punster McPunisher, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link


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