"Dumbledore is Gay" sez Rowling

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what with ilx/facebook crossover and everything

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

"Can I say my girlfriend's into Harry Potter sex slash on Facebook?"

Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link

haha its a bit late for that now hoos

deej, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

way xpost to Abbott -- I've always found it kind of cute/interesting how Rowling tries to use the kids' names/details to make various ethnicities clear without having to say anything (and without going overboard and being like "the young wizard LAMAR SINGLETON raised his wand"), which is funny business when you're trying to make things clear for children; there's some funny bit early on where one of the black kids wears dreadlocks for pretty much the sole purpose of us imagining him as black, instead of being told straight. (I find it funny, too, that one of the Indian girls is named Parvati, and so I consistently imagine her as Parvati-the-witch from Midnight's Children.) But then in standard British style she goes a bit broad with the foreigners ("Fleur"!), and Cho Chang has always made me wonder if maybe east Asians in the UK don't do the assimilated-name thing like in the US.

nabisco, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I assume the way ALL the names scan is way different in the UK, obviously (which kinda kills my Lamar Singleton joke) -- I'm probably missing a lot of class signifiers with the names, too, aren't I.

nabisco, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Hermione = posh
Ron = common as dog muck

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Harry = wtf is this the 1940s?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, yes, definitely a step back in time. There is more than a touch of Enid Blyton.

moley, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Hermione pretty much seemed like Theo in a cloak to me.

Abbott, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

OOOOPS maybe I meant Rudy (meaning I entirely meant Rudy, I wasn't THAT, um, unclear on Hermione.)

Abbott, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I just canceled an 8-paragraph post about Theo's late-diagnosed learning disabilities

nabisco, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

There IS that one scene where she keeps calling Ron BUUUUD

nabisco, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

HAHAHA sorry to make you abort what was surely a hilarious frolic.

Abbott, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

There was nothing hilarious about it, Abbott. In fact, his early-college discovery of the simple learning disabilities that had made him struggle in high school was precisely what made him decide to major in education, so he could help kids like himself find ways to

I'm sorry, I'm getting a little misty, one second

nabisco, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

wait you guys don't know anyone named harry? i have THREE friends named harry.

the table is the table, Sunday, 21 October 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I have never known a person named Harry that was younger than 60.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 October 2007 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

nice of jkr to make the reveal after she's already ended the series and sold 15 gajillion books. woo yay and all, but also kind of having yr cock and eating it too.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

prince harry

Heave Ho, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Now this raises all kinds of interesting questions.

1) Does what Rowling think matters?

lol subject-verb agreement

stephen, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:40 (sixteen years ago) link

my little dog is called harry, he is like a tiny old-fashioned travelling salesman who breezes into town and makes hearts flutter.

estela, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:52 (sixteen years ago) link

in the remaining films, dumbledore will now be played by ian mckellen

abanana, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:48 (sixteen years ago) link

because he's gay!!

s1ocki, Sunday, 21 October 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

it would be funny if michael gambon took a cue from this and just really queened it up in the next couple movies.

s1ocki, Sunday, 21 October 2007 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link

s1ocki have you heard his rationale for why he played magneto and the lotr dumbledore

abanana, Sunday, 21 October 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Harry has definitely come back into fashion as a kids name, like George and Alfie, but Ron is really dated. Plenty of people with east Asian ethnicity have English names in the UK, not sure how different it is to the US though.

ogmor, Sunday, 21 October 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

My best mate is called Harry, but then he was named after a man born in 1907.

Mark C, Sunday, 21 October 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

two of my harry friends are jews, which makes some sort of sense to me, at least. they're both around 23?
the other is more peripheral, and he is (surprise) Japanese.

the table is the table, Sunday, 21 October 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ LAMAR SINGLETON

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Every time I see this thread title I want it to say "'Dumbledore is Mad Gay' sez Rowling".

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

ya rly xpost

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

nice of jkr to make the reveal after she's already ended the series and sold 15 gajillion books. woo yay and all, but also kind of having yr cock and eating it too.

OTM. I find it hard to believe she's really like, "Oh, he's always been gay, I just didn't bother to mention it before."

Tuomas, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

ppl get *christened* harry?

the fuck, people.

it's like christening your kid dave.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

'christened' to troll tuomas; insert whatever equiv you might want.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

What?

Tuomas, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

To troll me how?

Tuomas, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

That is one of the coolest things ever. It must have been really gratifying for her to get reviews minus all the usual "for grown ups, Harry Potter, mature, change of direction, blah blah" BS.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 July 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link

yeah gonna buy this to see what the fuss is all about

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 July 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

Don't expect a trans retcon in the Potterverse:

https://www.out.com/transgender/2019/12/19/harry-potter-author-jk-rowling-comes-out-terf

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

Yeah she’s been a fucking mess on this for years. Think I read somewhere she’s friends with W1ngs 0f Sc0tland?

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

That seems unlikely as she's anti Scottish independence.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

You’re right but I am sure there’s some weird connection between them and some really objectionable people? Let me check this out

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

They both live in Dorset perhaps?

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

jk rowling has been a terf for years. she is also very friendly on twitter with "brian spanner" a unionist troll account that has tweeted at multiple female snp msps calling them cunts

xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

don't want to link to wings over scotland but he details her literally @ing the brian spanner account 200 times.

xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

xp ok thank you, that’s who I meant!

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

Here we have positive proof, if any were needed, that writing a series of wildly popular and lucrative children's books does not guarantee one has the ability to think sensibly about every issue that arises in a society. Other than her being rich as Scrooge McDuck, why would anyone regard her opinion about this as worth repeating?

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

That's Twitter for you.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

now fantasy fans can have the same crushing disenchantment and disappointment in their authors that sci-fi fans have had to deal with since forever.

akm, Monday, 23 December 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

to me it seems unlikely that an angry entitled millionaire soft Tory would be a terf

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

stoked for characters named like Enby Snowflake and Trance U. Premissist

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 September 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

I realize JK Rowling's new novel might seem a little long at 1200 pages but a good portion of the space is taken up by fictitious mean tweets pic.twitter.com/6xaH27fUUT

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) August 31, 2022

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Extraordinary, scarcely-believable stuff here. Would love to see her defend herself on these points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_xvXJJk7k

piscesx, Friday, 14 October 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link

these english feminists are fucking weird

akm, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

these fascists get to dominate UK coverage of feminism because they offer a version that doesn't threaten power and punches down at all the same targets the state and media already wants to eliminate... most english feminists i know think this crowd is full of shit they just can't get a word in since this is the only feminism UK state/media gives a shit about

(relevant that these self-described radicals are uncritically supportive of empire, nation, police, prisons, borders, the nuclear family - and don't seem to care much about abortion access or reproductive labour or gendered poverty or basically anything except transphobia and the purity of white womanhood, conceived of as essential to the national project)

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 15 October 2022 09:51 (one year ago) link

this crowd might represent an official english or british feminism but they're deliberately unrepresentative of feminisms that exist within britain - I wanted to draw that out because I think the specifically national and nationalist character (and utility) of the terf wave is fairly underexamined even as people make jokes about terf island and so on

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 15 October 2022 10:00 (one year ago) link

yeah this is mainly an english thing afaict. for instance check out this booming answer:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMF6cD2U5/

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 October 2022 10:23 (one year ago) link

I’ve never seen these terves talk about the lack of provision of abortion in Northern Ireland, or even very much about Roe v Wade.

barry sito (gyac), Saturday, 15 October 2022 11:01 (one year ago) link

Let’s not forget you have the right to call Johnny Depp a wife beater in this country cos even a shitehawk like Dan Wootton could notice the incongruity of these beliefs.

barry sito (gyac), Saturday, 15 October 2022 11:09 (one year ago) link

they don't want US evangelical funding to dry up and honestly they seem a step away from going full pro-life anyway given the rest of their politics and their general attitudes about reproduction and bodily autonomy

has JKR reacted at all to the recent depp bullshit? I know she loves using the law to silence people too - but people must have been asking her to comment

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 15 October 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I am watching the trash truck take away my complete set of harry potter books - so long!

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

feels good man!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

This makes me feel like one of the Old Ones sagely nodding as things come full circle, saying, "I saw Harry Potter arrive and I saw it go."

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

The Rise and Fall of The Writer Who Stole the Ideas From "The Worst Witch"

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

first time seeing the term “terves,” excellent work

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:08 (one year ago) link

she's approaching Glinner-level brainworms at this point, seems to tweet about nothing else.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:11 (one year ago) link

you're constantly being told how brave and righteous and important you are while being initiated into this ideological bubble within which every question always comes back to this, you get to feel like an underground resistance fighter for inciting violence against a minority group, all this must be intoxicating and once you're in so deep entertaining any reservations would shatter your entire identity so any doubts others may share become deeply threatening attacks on you personally and by extension women in general (even if you're a man) - and if you ever change your mind about all this (generic "you" since she's not doing this) you'll end up on the receiving end of everything you and your friends have been dishing out which isn't an attractive prospect

I don't have any sympathy because you have to indulge some really shitty parts of yourself to start down this path in the first place but once you're on it it's like a runaway train which very few people seem to get off

your original display name is still visible (Left), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link

xp and yet, afaict she has yet to acknowledge his existence in any way

here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link

Glinner says the quiet part out loud too much.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:30 (one year ago) link

Oh totally, he’s going to get himself banned again and probably sued and I can’t wait. Read some old tweets from his ex brother in law who said they’d tried to reach him for two years or something.

here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link

you get to feel like an underground resistance fighter for inciting violence against a minority group,

This is the magic ingredient, I feel

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link

Rowling's feed is pretty similar to Brietbart or any other White Supremacist site that just highlights crimes committed by immigrants or minorities or whatever.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Ridiculous and bad way to conduct politics.

The SNP leadership candidates were asked if JK Rowling is a national treasure in live Sky News debate

Read more: https://t.co/WUnquWwffN pic.twitter.com/uWuKW5BAcw

— Sky News (@SkyNews) March 13, 2023

the pinefox, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 10:30 (one year ago) link

Pathetic and enraging.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 10:46 (one year ago) link

So, within a week of an American conservative radio host calling for the elimination of "transgenderism," JKR is likening trans activists to Death Eaters?

niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

????

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 22:48 (one month ago) link

was this a mispost

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 22:49 (one month ago) link

I took it as friendly advice for JK who has screentimed herself into embracing Holocaust denial

rob, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 22:55 (one month ago) link

holocaust denial seems to be inevitable for the obsessive transphobes, hopefully rowling manages to get herself into legal trouble somewhere from it

ufo, Thursday, 14 March 2024 01:16 (one month ago) link

A tweet thread explainer on a couple of Rowling’s anti-trans holocaust denial exchanges in the last day or so.

bae (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2024 01:30 (one month ago) link


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