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"Did you cook my rabbit?"
"Yes."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"It had a name - two names..."

Classic...

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

blount - - yeah sure, but i haven't seen an ashby film in AGES.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

although the village (for reasons I dont understand) is on the east coast

Er, no it isn't. Assuming you're talking about Pennan.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

s1ocki i haven't seen local hero in ages but what i remember of it it had a similar, um, tone to hal ashby or michael ritchie comedy

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

(it's on the north-facing bit of the first north-east corner of Scotland, sort of north-west of Aberdeen)

http://www.robinwilson.net/pennancu/pennan.html has a lovely panoramic picture you can scoot around and have a nosey.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM, Ned. This is a fantastic film, one my favourites from that blasted decade, although my favourite character is by a distance the naive Scottish dude (forget the name) who tries it on with sexy webfoot Marina...

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i like this a lot, probably seen it 5 or 6 times. so many funny little details. (like the fact that riegert's character gets tapped for the mission for his presumed scottish heritage, which turns out to be fake. and the arrival of the russians.) one of the best renditions ever of the outsider-in-a-small-town scenario -- and it doesn't even do anything spectacularly different from any other rendition, it just does it all better. the village's quirks feel lived in, not just layered on for laffs.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Well ailsa yes, the north-facing bit, etc. but definitely east of where the beach shots were filmed. I just call the coast south off John O'Groats the east coast and south of Cape Wrath the west coast! Obv. you are being more specific in your definition of east coast. And I respect that :)

Here's a mildly diverting article by an American visitor to the locations of Local Hero - complete with pics also.

Obv. you are being more specific in your definition of east coast. And I respect that :)

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops I under edited that last bit while adding in my html...sorry.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

S'okay. I am a Scottish geography pedant :-) The beach bits were filmed round the Arisaig/Morar/Loch Moidart area. Which is very definitely West Coast.

Useless bit of trivia. The phone box is a prop, as the real phone box in Pennan was in a less photogenic place.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

(also, someone should pay respect to mark knopfler here, so i will.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, yeah, that title music (Going Home?) is magnificent. I love it. It does lump-in-the-throat things to me every time I hear it.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

It's also Newcastle United's running-out-of-tunnel song (more useless trivia, this time soccer-related).

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw, the plaque! That's really sweet. Also, "Comfort and Joy" seconded.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

"That Sinking Feeling", folks. Lovely film.

(Stew, when you get to this thread, as I'm sure you will, do you still want to borrow that off me?)

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

It does have a magical element esp. when Happer turns up in a helicopter and saves the day

well yes, that's what i was referring to - but it's just a helicopter

I suppose it has to do with whether the one character is really a mermaid...

touche

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"You're my eyes and ears, MacIntyre."

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I like it when Denis Lawson is always shagging.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 5 August 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite Forsyth film is Housekeeping, but Local Hero is one of the few films about local-yokels which doesn't condescend to them; and any film in which Burt Lancaster gets a chance to tap the starcrossed poetry in him has my blessing.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I'm sold. I've added it to my LoveFilm queue.

g00blar (gooblar), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Burt Lancaster day on TCM tomorrow.

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this film; I studied the credit obsessively to see where it was filmed, and committed Arisaig to memory. In 2000, I borrowed a friend's camper van and went driving around up the west coast and finally got to Arisaig on a late summer's day. It was beautiful. I nearly died several hours later when I fell off a small cliff onto rocks but managed to hold onto some shrubs and get pulled up, but no matter. Later camped out in a car park on the edge of the sea in a car park in Mallaig, rocked by the wind. It was magical. Everytime I hear the song, I get goosebumps.

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

Reviving being I'm using the Capaldi casting in DW as an excuse to tell more people about this film.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

it's p good; i'll take lair of the white worm instead

johnny crunch, Monday, 5 August 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

LH is one of the best Hollywood-produced films of the '80s.

Which cast member appeared the same year in Return of the Jedi?

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 August 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

I'd guess Dennis Lawson

nate woolls, Monday, 5 August 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link

Denis Lawson

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 5 August 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

gah xp

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 5 August 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

I mentioned on another thread seeing a lousy film from a couple of years ago called
Bitter/Sweet. It's basically an attempt to remake Local Hero--Thailand instead of Scotland, coffee instead of oil, James Brolin instead of Burt Lancaster--with a love story worked in.

clemenza, Monday, 5 August 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

still get a huge kick out of the bit with the hammering on the roof. that and "I'll be a good Gordon, Gordon".

piscesx, Monday, 5 August 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

five years pass...

I've been meaning to see this for decades and finally did. What a sweet film. Felt a little like it was a little rushed, though, which was odd for a film so much about taking your time, but I can't imagine back then Forsyth getting away with making it even slower and longer. I suppose he might have swapped all the broad goofy therapist stuff for even more of the town and its people.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 June 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link

it's amazing a Hollywood studio backed it. Never happen now.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

Josh: try to see his follow-up, Comfort and Joy. As much as I love Local Hero, I love Comfort & Joy even more.

clemenza, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

Says upthread that Chris Menges shot this, which I had forgotten/never known/pvmic

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

there's a forthcoming stage musical adaptation

conrad, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

I'm glad it wasn't made any longer or slower. It's perfectly compressed yet leisurely as is, with so many subtle character details just fleetingly hinted at. Only on repeated viewings do you appreciate them. I first saw it on The Movie Channel soon after it played in theaters. They ran it over and over for a month, and I would catch at least some of it whenever I had the TV on. It was like getting to know characters on a TV series as dear friends.

I've only seen it maybe twice since then. The last time, when I introduced a friend to it. I was disappointed that she didn't want to watch it again right away.

I love the understatedly bittersweet ending when Mac is back in Houston in his yuppie bachelor's apartment pinning snapshots to the wall, looking out over the drab cityscape, and it briefly cuts to the Scottish village with the red telephone box small and off to one side. Under the music you can almost hear it ringing. In a typical Hollywood film, the box would have filled up the screen, and the phone would have drowned out the music. And kept ringing through the credits.

punning display, Sunday, 9 June 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

YISSSS

https://www.criterion.com/films/28709-local-hero

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

xpost I still don't know what to make of all the Burt Lancaster stuff. He seems to take up a huge percentage of the film for having no real point, at least not until the very very end.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

smdh

Burt is the eccentric face of capitalism

another studio wd've cast DJTrump

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

Well, yeah. I guess I mean as an erstwhile villain, symbolic or not, I could have done without all the broad therapy stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

having seen this since i was young but literally every other bill forsyth film I've seen or rewatched as an adult has been bad.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link

he's not the villain, no one is, it's a bill forsyth joint

he's on-screen a lot bcz he's great on-screen, and forsyth wrote a film for him to be on-screen a lot bcz this was amazing to able to do from where BF was standing at that point

this is far and away his best film (gregory's girl is nice but no one can act)(jenny seagrove can't act in local hero, it's a bill forsyth joint)

mark s, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link

Housekeeping is a great film imho, Christine Lahti should've hauled in all the awards

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:03 (four years ago) link

Mark: I keep plugging Comfort and Joy--have you seen that? Seems very few have.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link

not since the 80s! i think i liked it but not as much as local hero

the ice-cream truck jingle is still stuck in my head but i remember very little else ("hullo folks!")

mark s, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 09:10 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Next year, Forsyth and Knopfler have a musical version up at the Old Vic.

https://www.oldvictheatre.com/whats-on/2020/local-hero

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 July 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

You’ve got to be kidding

Ask Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

They already did this in Edinburgh earlier this year.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

As soon as I read the headline on that piece, I realized "(the) heist film in there I didn't care for" was That Sinking Feeling...That's okay; I liked Gregory's Girl better this time than way back when. There must have been at least a five-year delay in That Sinking Feeling making it over here.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

That heist film might have been the Burt Reynolds one, Breaking In. I didn't like it much at all, even though it was filmed in Portland.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

Wow--he did two of them. You could very well be right.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

They should have face-swapped Burt Reynolds into That Sinking Feeling for the US market.

Alba, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

I watched Local Hero last week. The end section after Burt Lancaster arrives is a bit underpowered but it's mostly very good. I love Dennis Lawson and Fulton MacKay in it. It's a really good film for right now as well.

Pie face (jed_), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

That heist film might have been the Burt Reynolds one, Breaking In. I didn't like it much at all, even though it was filmed in Portland.

Confusing the two would seem highly improbable tbh. Also I can't imagine "That Sinking Feeling" being described as a heist movie.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

The Graun article describes it as "Glasgow's ­contribution to the bathroom sink ­heist genre" as well as the headline gag.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

I think ‘heist movie’ is one of those descriptors that people enjoy applying more at the margins than the core (cf. Man On Wire)

Alba, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

This will win me no friends here, but Local Hero never did much for me. It always kind of seemed to me like a proto-version of one of those whimsical Miramax 90s comedies like The Full Monty or Waking Ned Devine--less aggressively cutesy, sure, but in the same ballpark. Some things I don't mind: the character who lives in the shipwrecked boat, and the guy who plays the main actor's assistant in Scotland (the one who falls for the marine biologist). But I don't feel anything for the lead or care about his perspective, which leaves me uninvested in his transformation, and none of the Lancaster material is all that funny (despite otherwise liking the film, Kael basically agrees with me on this point).

Likely as a result, it is still the only Forsythe that I've seen. I did look for Housekeeping after I read the novel back in my undergrad, but I couldn't find it to rent anywhere at the time.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

"the guy who plays"!!

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

Looked him up on Wiki just now, and what can I say? He's someone who is famous for a bunch of things I don't pay attention to--Doctor Who, The Thick of It. I've seen quite a few movies he's in, but never made the connection.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Sunday, 24 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

It always kind of seemed to me like a proto-version of one of those whimsical Miramax 90s comedies like The Full Monty

This is utter bollocks.

Pie face (jed_), Sunday, 24 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

I don't agree, cryptosicko, but I come up short the same way with Housekeeping, and even Gregory's Girl I didn't like as much the first time, so I understand. Droll and quiet can be a coin flip--for whatever reason, I immediately connected with Local Hero and Comfort and Joy.

Also I can't imagine "That Sinking Feeling" being described as a heist movie.

The one I saw was a full-on heist film, so it must have been the Burt Reynolds.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link

I should also add that it is has been a good decade-plus since I've seen Local hero (still ten or so years removed from the Full Monty era, but closer enough to possibly explain my reaction), and that its brand of gentle humour may be more my speed these days. I didn't like Tati at first, either.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Sunday, 24 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

crypto - yeah, I figured you would have seen some other of his films, not just being outraged at you failing to respect the only Doctor Who to win an Oscar (btw he was definitely "famous" before The Thick Of It)

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

this movie is a tonic. I watched it twice tonight.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 07:00 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

If you love Local Hero there's a strong chance you love Limbo, which I saw tonight. I found it extremely moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pdLSXjEAoc

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link

Amir El-Masry's central performance is a miracle.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

Doesn’t seem to be streaming in this US,*sigh*

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 August 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link

It's going to be on Mubi soon, they bought it for distribution.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 7 August 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link

Think I saw it was already on MUBI Ireland & UK.

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

It's not yet, I just checked, but I think it's coming on to the platform when the cinema run ends in a week or so.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:08 (two years ago) link

Some of the humour in this is a bit too broad and doesn't quite land (although my cinema partner disagreed) but I can forgive it a lot because it is so deeply felt and complex as an entire work. I have a very specific niggle about the Scottish accents in it too - Hebridean accents are very specific but rarely deployed here - but again, the same, I forgive it.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link

It would have just elevated it to hear actual outer-hebrides accents on screen though. It would have been nice to hear some Gaelic too. A lot of Oueter-Hebridean-Scots don't, won't or even can't speak English. I was shocked to go there on a theatre tour and encounter people who can't speak English and only know Gaelic.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

but there's the Lancaster accent

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link

Amazing to think there are Scots who can't speak English but it's true, there are (though it's very rare, now).

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:23 (two years ago) link

Is that a reference to something, Alf?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:23 (two years ago) link

I think Soto is referring to Burt Lancaster, not to the English region Lancaster, or to the dialect of anyone in the film Limbo

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 8 August 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link

ah!

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 8 August 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

Thanks, my darling.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 8 August 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link

You’re my eyes and ears!

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 August 2021 08:57 (two years ago) link

Because a little time is all we have left.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Sunday, 8 August 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link


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