― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Léèê (Leee), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
1st leaked photo... http://www.pluh.com/images/picofdaystuff/Optimus%20Prime!.jpg
― lock robster (robster), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan M. (OutDatWay), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Suedey (mincingspoo...), April 8th, 2005.
they should get Tarantino!
― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Dancing Transformer Citroen Ad (not guerilla marketing)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.nbj.co.jp/newline/images/video/rj/2.jpg
(not really, it's Robot Jox)
― $V£N! (blueski), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
(p.s. "Bad Boys II" was his best movie - dude is getting better 'n' better [still the fucking azazel of movies right now but better at it])
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
[/ bay-style culture-baiting]
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I hope Megatron comes up with some really ropey plans, and that Starscream messes up.
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
but dude, the shanty town was full of DRUGS! so it was okay to blow it up!
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― andrew s (andrew s), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
-- $V£N! (stevem7...) (webmail), April 8th, 2005 11:54 AM. (blueski) (later) (link)
http://nf.wh3rd.net/files/clerkstransform.gif
― Where is Erasto B. Mpemba? (ex machina), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Therefore, no need to explain Megatron...as he'll trnasform into gigantic space cannon or spaceship or something like that.
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
(what does a director do anyway?)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.vegalleries.com/misccels/turbo.gif
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Is Amateurist joking?
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Date of birth (location)6 May 1915Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA
Date of death (details)10 October 1985Hollywood, California, USA. (heart attack)
Sometimes Credited As:O.W. JeevesG.O. Spelvin
Actor - filmography
Someone to Love (1987) .... Danny's Friend The Transformers: The Movie (1986) (voice) .... Unicron... aka Matrix Forever (Japan) ... aka The Transformers ... aka Transformers the Movie: Mokushiroku Matrix yo eien ni (Japan: video title) ... aka Transformers: Matrix yo eien ni (Japan) The Enchanted Journey (1984) (voice) .... Pippo Hot Money (1983) .... Sheriff Paisley... aka Getting Centred ... aka Going for Broke ... aka Never Trust an Honest Thief ... aka The Great Madison County Robbery ... aka Zen Business Where Is Parsifal? (1983) .... Klingsor Butterfly (1982) .... Judge Rauch Slapstick (Of Another Kind) (1982) (voice) .... Father of the Aliens... aka Slapstick History of the World: Part I (1981) (voice) .... Narrator... aka Mel Brooks' History of the World: Part 1 (USA: complete title) "Tales of the Klondike" (1981) (mini) TV Series (voice) .... Narrator... aka Jack London's Klondike Tales ... aka Jack London's Tales of the Klondike (Canada: English title: complete title) "Shogun" (1980/II) (mini) TV Series (voice) .... Narrator (original version)... aka James Clavell's Shogun Shogun (1980/I) (TV) (voice) .... Narrator... aka James Clavell's Shogun (USA: complete title) Tajna Nikole Tesle (1980) .... J.P. Morgan... aka Tesla ... aka The Secret Life of Nikola Tesla ... aka The Secret of Nikola Tesla The Greenstone (1980) (voice) .... Narrator
The Double McGuffin (1979) (voice) .... Narrator The Muppet Movie (1979) .... Lew Lord (Special Guest Star) A Woman Called Moses (1978) (TV) (voice) .... Narrator Grande attacco, Il (1978) (voice) .... Narrator... aka Battle Force ... aka Große Offensive, Die (West Germany) ... aka The Battle of the Mareth Line ... aka The Biggest Battle (USA) ... aka The Great Battle ... aka The Greatest Battle It Happened One Christmas (1977) (TV) .... Henry F. Potter Hot Tomorrows (1977) (voice) .... Parklawn Mortuary Rime of the Ancient Mariner (1977) (voice) .... Narrator Some Call It Greed (1977) (voice) .... Narrator Voyage of the Damned (1976) .... Estedes Rikki-Tikki-Tavi (1975/II) (TV) (voice) .... Narrator And Then There Were None (1974) (voice) .... Voice of Tape... aka ...e poi non ne rimase nessuno (Italy) ... aka Diez negritos (Spain) ... aka Dix petits nègres (France) ... aka Ten Little Indians (USA) ... aka Unbekannter rechnet ab, Ein (West Germany) ... aka Zehn kleine Negerlein (West Germany) Necromancy (1972) .... Mr. Cato... aka A Life for a Life ... aka Rosemary's Disciples (USA: video title) ... aka The Toy Factory ... aka The Witching (USA: reissue title) The Man Who Came to Dinner (1972) (TV) .... Sheridan Whiteside Treasure Island (1972) .... Long John Silver... aka Île au trésor, L' (France) ... aka Isla del tesoro, La (Spain) ... aka Isola del tesoro, L' (Italy) ... aka Schatzinsel, Die (West Germany) Get to Know Your Rabbit (1972) .... Mr. Delasandro Décade prodigieuse, La (1971) .... Theo Van Horn... aka Dieci incredibili giorni (Italy) ... aka Ten Days Wonder (USA) A Safe Place (1971) .... Magician London (1971) .... Various Characters Malpertuis (1971) .... Cassavius... aka Malpertuis: Histoire d'une maison maudite (Belgium: French title) ... aka Malpertuis: The Legend of Doom House ... aka The Legend of Doom House (USA) Waterloo (1970/I) .... King Louis XVIII Catch-22 (1970) .... Brig. Gen. Dreedle Start the Revolution Without Me (1970) (voice) .... Narrator... aka Two Times Two The Kremlin Letter (1970) .... Bresnavitch, Head of Soviet Politburo/Grodin's Father-in-Law The Deep (1970) .... Russ Brewer Is It Always Right to Be Right? (1970) (voice) .... Narrator Upon This Rock (1970) (TV) .... Michelangelo... aka Return to Lochaver
Una su 13 (1969) .... Markan... aka 12 + 1 ... aka Douze et un (France) ... aka The 13 Chairs ... aka The Twelve Chairs ... aka Twelve Plus One (UK) The Southern Star (1969) .... Plankett... aka Étoile du sud, L' (France) Kampf um Rom II - Der Verrat (1969) .... Justinian... aka Guerra per Roma - seconda parte, La ... aka Lupta pentru Roma II Bitka na Neretvi (1969) .... Chetnik senator... aka Battaglia della Neretva, La (Italy) ... aka Battle of the River Neretva (Australia: video title) ... aka Schlacht an der Neretva, Die (West Germany) ... aka The Battle of Neretva (USA) ... aka The Battle of the River Neretva (USA) The Merchant of Venice (1969) (TV) .... Shylock Kampf um Rom I (1968) .... Emperor Justinian... aka Guerra per Roma - prima parte, La (Italy) ... aka Lupta pentru Roma I (Romania) ... aka Struggle for Rome ... aka The Fight for Rome ... aka The Last Roman (USA) House of Cards (1968) .... Leschenhaut The Immortal Story (1968) .... Mr. Charles Clay... aka Une histoire immortelle (France) Tepepa (1968) .... Colonel Cascorro... aka Blood and Guns (USA: video title) ... aka Long Live the Revolution (USA) ... aka Tepepa... Viva la revolución (Spain) I'll Never Forget What's'isname (1967) .... Jonathan Lute... aka I'll Never Forget What's 'Isname (USA: video box title) Oedipus the King (1967) .... Tiresias The Sailor from Gibraltar (1967) .... Louis de Mozambique Casino Royale (1967) .... Le Chiffre... aka Charles K. Feldman's Casino Royale A Man for All Seasons (1966) .... Cardinal Wolsey Paris brûle-t-il? (1966) .... Consul Raoul Nordling... aka Is Paris Burning? (USA) Campanadas a medianoche (1965) .... Falstaff... aka Campanades a mitjanit (Spain: Catalan title) ... aka Chimes at Midnight (UK) ... aka Falstaff (Switzerland: German title) Fabuleuse aventure de Marco Polo, La (1965) .... Akerman, Marco's Tutor... aka Marco the Magnificent (UK) (USA) ... aka Marko Polo (Yugoslavia: Serbian title) ... aka Meravigliose avventure di Marco Polo, Le (Italy) ... aka Scacchiere di Dio, Lo (Italy) The V.I.P.s (1963) .... Max Buda... aka International Hotel Ro.Go.Pa.G. (1963) .... The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta")... aka Laviamoci il cervello (Italy: alternative title) ... aka Let's Have a Brainwash ... aka Rogopag (France) Procès, Le (1962) .... Hastler (The Advocate)... aka Processo, Il (Italy) ... aka Prozess, Der (West Germany) ... aka The Trial (USA) La Fayette (1962) .... Benjamin Franklin... aka Lafayette (USA) ... aka Lafayette, una spada per due bandiere (Italy) Tartari, I (1961) .... Burundai... aka The Tartars King of Kings (1961) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narrator Austerlitz (1960) .... Robert Fulton... aka Battaglia di Austerlitz, La (Italy) ... aka Napoleone ad Austerlitz (Italy) ... aka The Battle of Austerlitz (USA) Crack in the Mirror (1960) .... Hagolin/Lamerciere David e Golia (1960) .... King Saul... aka David and Goliath (USA)
Ferry to Hong Kong (1959) .... Captain Hart Compulsion (1959) .... Jonathan Wilk High Journey (1959) (voice) .... Narrator The Roots of Heaven (1958) .... Cy Sedgewick The Fountain of Youth (1958) (TV) .... Host/narrator The Vikings (1958) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narrator Touch of Evil (1958) .... Police Captain Hank Quinlan The Long, Hot Summer (1958) .... Will Varner Man in the Shadow (1957/I) .... Virgil Renchler... aka Pay the Devil (UK) ... aka Seeds of Wrath The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957) (uncredited) .... Off-Screen Narrator of Trailer Moby Dick (1956) .... Father Mapple... aka Herman Melville's Moby Dick (USA: complete title) Napoléon (1955) .... Sir Hudson Lowe... aka Napoleone (Italy) ... aka Napoleone Bonaparte (Italy) Three Cases of Murder (1955) .... Lord Mountdrago ("Lord Mountdrago" segment) Moby Dick Rehearsed (1955) (TV) .... An Actor Manager/Father Mapple/Ahab Mr. Arkadin (1955) .... Gregory Arkadin... aka Confidential Report (UK) ... aka Dossier secret (France) ... aka Mister Arkadin (Spain) ... aka Monsieur Arkadin - Dossier secret (France) Si Versailles m'était conté (1954) .... Benjamin Franklin/Narrator, dubbed version... aka Affairs in Versailles (USA: reissue title) ... aka Fabulous Versailles ... aka Royal Affairs in Versailles (USA) ... aka Versailles (Italy) King Lear (1953) (TV) .... Lear Trouble in the Glen (1953) .... Sanin Cejador y Mengues Uomo, la bestia e la virtù, L' (1953) .... Captain Perella, the Beast... aka Man Beast and Virtue Trent's Last Case (1952) .... Sigsbee Manderson Petit monde de Don Camillo, Le (1952) (voice) .... Narrator in American version... aka Don Camillo ... aka Piccolo mondo di Don Camillo, Il (Italy) ... aka The Little World of Don Camillo (USA) The Tragedy of Othello: The Moor of Venice (1952) .... Othello... aka Othello (France) (USA) The Black Rose (1950) .... Bayan
Prince of Foxes (1949) .... Cesare Borgia Black Magic (1949) .... Charlatan Cagliostro... aka Cagliostro (Italy) ... aka Spadaccini della serenissima, Gli (Italy: alternative title) The Third Man (1949) .... Harry Lime... aka The 3rd Man (USA: poster title) Macbeth (1948) .... Macbeth The Lady from Shanghai (1947) .... Michael O'Hara Duel in the Sun (1946) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narrator The Stranger (1946) .... Franz Kindler aka Professor Charles Rankin Tomorrow Is Forever (1946) .... John Andrew MacDonald/Erik Kessler Jane Eyre (1944) .... Edward Rochester Journey Into Fear (1943) .... Colonel Haki The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) (voice) .... Narrator Citizen Kane (1941) .... Charles Foster Kane Swiss Family Robinson (1940) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narration
Too Much Johnson (1938) .... Keystone Kop The Hearts of Age (1934) .... Death
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
no mention of a lawsuit? oh chinapaws.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
In every article I read about "Transformers" and "Voltron" and "Thundercats" or whatever other 80s franchise they are turning into movies these days reviewer/movie blogs/filmmakers themselves always mention the 'fanboy' demographic. I'm kinda confused about what is meant by that because at first I thought they were talking about the obvious fringe comic convention/serious collector/cosplay mindset. But increasingly it seems like 'fanboy' is being used to describe anybody who was ever a fan of the franchise.
I think for the most part nostalgia automatically dictates that a certain population are fanboys; not necessarily those obsessed with collecting and debating continuities and stuff, but simply males born, oh, 1977-1984. It's significant because the filmmaker will often say they want to 'not upset fanboys' and whenever they say that I feel like they are underestimating the intelligence of these kids.
I never had any illusions about the 'purity' of these franchises and even at a young age I was well aware that they were basically 20-minute long toy commercials, interrupted by more toy commercials. Plus so many spin-offs or rip-offs of these shows came out that I think even as a kid you knew, okay the early 80s Transformers cartoons were awesome but any lousy budget-CGI remakes done in the 90s didn't tarnish that experience.
So does fanboys = hardcore Transformer fans? Or fanboys = males born 1977-1984?
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
"It's significant because the filmmaker will often say they want to 'not upset fanboys' and whenever they say that I feel like they are underestimating the intelligence of these kids."
I enjoy their pose of deference! That's about all we can get from them.Fanboys = anyone with an emotional investment in the property s.t. their attendance can be pretty much relied upon regardless of the results. I was shocked at how many posters talked about needing to buy the Bay TF DVD/BLURAYs to further cement their hatred for what he did to it.
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty much the latter i think
― Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Fanboys = anyone with an emotional investment in the property s.t. their attendance can be pretty much relied upon regardless of the results. I was shocked at how many posters talked about needing to buy the Bay TF DVD/BLURAYs to further cement their hatred for what he did to it.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, July 24, 2009 8:22 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://codebloo.net/stuff/picard-headesk.jpg
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Anybody who has spent a year or two following, say, Penny Arcade or some other semi-sentient self-identified dork forum knows the ugly secret of these things - the best way to profit from hardcore folks is to make sure every other significant release in your canonical franchise, be it a game, comic book series or major motion picture, is completely insulting to the customer. They'll wail and gnash teeth and then add the next installment to their camp-out calendar as soon as it's announced.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 25 July 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link
See, i think any emotional attachment I could have for Transformers would stem from nostalgia for my youth rather than actual attachment to the franchise. But yes, Nunez, you are right.
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
this is why i will only buy these films second-hand. it's the only way these money-grabbing Hollywood charlatans will learn.
― unban dictionary (blueski), Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I will download them illegally, watch them with the sound off and the monitor powered down, and will hide behind blueski's user name in case the MPAA complains. I am pure.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
man this movie was awesome
― 囧 (dyao), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link
lol at complaining about plot holes and how unrealistic this movie is, there's some fish in a barrel over there here's a shotgun
― 囧 (dyao), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i47.tinypic.com/30b0l13.jpg
― Cunga, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
The kid has news anchor hair.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link
http://bayifier.com/
― crude interloper of a once august profession (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Director Admits TRANSFORMERS 2 was no good
ALSO: Fish and water? Who knew?
― Comics can't all be syringes and scalpels poised before eyes. y'know? (R Baez), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link
This (second Bay transformers film) was on TV just now
― cardamon, Sunday, 6 July 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
The design and movements of the robots was so slinky it took away from the sense of them as big, dangerous machines, and the constant explosions and arcing missiles and all the times they should have wiped out everyone out but didn't had a similar effect
― cardamon, Sunday, 6 July 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
Iirc I've only ever seen the first of these, but I did read the comic and watch the cartoon and play with the toys and ... why would a giant robot even want to turn into a fucking car? What's the advantage?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 July 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
To get little boys to play with you
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 6 July 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link
very interesting video damning bay with damning praise.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2THVvshvq0Q
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 6 July 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link
Good video. Here's the referenced NYT article on watching West Side Story with Bay
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 July 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link
That is a good video
― cardamon, Sunday, 6 July 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link
a) because the toys came first and it was two toys in one and b) so they could disguise themselves on earth
― cardamon, Sunday, 6 July 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link
Ebert again
This isn't a film so much as a toy tie-in. Children holding a Transformer toy in their hand can invest it with wonder and magic, imagining it doing brave deeds and remaining always their friend. I knew a little boy once who lost his blue toy truck at the movies, and cried as if his heart would break. Such a child might regard "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" with fear and dismay.
― cardamon, Sunday, 6 July 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link
I didn't even like the first one. monolithic pacing, wince-inducing one-liners, and too much delay in getting to the *real* destruction.
I admit I do enjoy reading the plot summaries on Wikipedia, more entertaining to digest it in bite-sized format in my Bay-less brain
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 6 July 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
I get the toy stuff, I just mean within the mythology of the movies etc. If you're a giant indestructible robot, why would you want to pretend to be a VW beetle? Disguise yourself on earth *from what*? Can't the bad robots tell which cars - or which, you know, giant robot dinosaur - is actually more than meets the eye.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 July 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/04/entertainment/new-transformers-movies-feat/index.html
;_;
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
I'm honestly surprised he didn't try something like this earlier
http://io9.gizmodo.com/according-to-the-last-knight-transformers-have-been-on-1795053150
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
hokay
― your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 01:00 (seven years ago) link
still say the original was dire....one of the few times I fell asleep in the theatre at a 7 fucking pm showing
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 June 2017 05:36 (six years ago) link
eh, I have only seen the first one and it was such a trainwreck (except M.Fox maybe :) that I never bothered with the rest although I was so ready for nostalgia !that said, my mega robots nostalgia found a much better recipient with "Pacific Rim".I wish they would finally make that "Robotech" movie, though.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 23 June 2017 08:32 (six years ago) link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2017/03/02/the-live-action-robotech-movie-still-lives-on/#314496267307
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 23 June 2017 08:33 (six years ago) link