Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

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i always think ilx is better than to agree w/pfork ;_;

well, you know, broken clocks telling the correct time twice a day and all that...

Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, pfork loved the bug record, which i also loved, and so i think did you... so even you agree with pfork sometimes?

Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

more like pfork agrees with me sometimes.

i mean, occasional agreement w/anyone isn't surprising, it's more...i'm constantly surprised, though, i shouldn't be, by how much of ilx self-identifies as, uh, pitchfolk.

They've actually pitched up outside his house, next to the man who sells hotdogs on matchdays.

we got rid of that man.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Really, how?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

our landlord's secretary wrote him a Stern Letter

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Lex, a good chunk of the people who currently write for Pitchfork are posters from this board dating back to its inception! It would be weird if there WASN'T any overlap or interest between ILM and Pitchfork, all things considered.

feel free to answer my Korn Kuestion (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

"i'm disappointed a message board of people likes stuff i don't like" is a sentiment i just can't grasp!

Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

nah I feel that way about the motherfucking Beatles

Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

based on the general response to Joanna Newsom and AnCo/AnCo-related threads, I think that ILM still has connections to the indie world. And any message boards with connections to the indie world is going to acknowledge and discuss pitchfork, as it should. also, disagreeing with pitchfork just because it's pitchfork is just as bad as agreeing with pitchfork just because it's pitchfork.

I don't think this list is very revisionist. It's a pretty accurate top 20 of my 90s, especially ages 12-18.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not revisionist of how the '90s played out as much as it's revisionist of what Pfork covered in the '90s (e.g., there's no way the site would've given Aaliyah or BIG the time of day during the actual '90s).

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah totally agree with that.

But, you know, gave Discovery a bad review etc etc

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

and animal collective iirc

The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

ha I went to look just because I couldn't believe it and they gave Danse Manatee a 3.9

everything else got a 7.1 or higher though

feel free to answer my Korn Kuestion (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Well that makes sense, though -- Danse Manatee was awful.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not revisionist of how the '90s played out as much as it's revisionist of what Pfork covered in the '90s

Not all that surprising, though, since only three staffers from 2000 are still on board today: Schreiber, Richardson, LeMay.

jaymc, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

From the archives.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"It's embarrasing to admit to liking this record, but somebody's got to do it. I feel pretty confident there are others just like me out there."

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank you Ryan Schreiber, I am not alone in my Pet Sho Boys guilty-pleasure love.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Bilingual is the only PSB album I still haven't heard

feel free to answer my Korn Kuestion (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i think this tangent deserves its own thread

Thread For Pitchfork Web.Archive.org fun

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I know they are obvious but I still have a special place in my heart for "Rosa Parks" and "Miss Jackson".

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Catchall feature today roundly bests the actual list, compleat nonshocka.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry miss jackson.... i am for reeeeeeaaaaaaaall

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol fine. but by all standards this is pretty underwhelming to me, esp for a first single. like taylor swift "mine"-level underwhelming.

teledyldonix, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf lol WRONG THREAD. need to stop opening tabs.

teledyldonix, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

went with "Only Shallow"

Dan S, Thursday, 9 September 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link

ditto

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Thursday, 9 September 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link

DEPECHE MODEEEE

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 9 September 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

OutKast - "Spottieottedopalicious" 3

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH?

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

lol. this board hates p4k oh let's all vote.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't hate em.

billstevejim, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

lol at Pavement beating Radiohead

and by "Heavens!" i mean WATERFALLS OF BIDDY (HI DERE), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

what is this pulp track common people?

k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"Gold Sounds" pffft

van smack, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

237 votes! That's the most I can think of on any ilx poll.

Donovan Dagnabbit (WmC), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

While they're essentially the same thing this top 20 makes way more sense to me than the original one.

Moka, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think ILM hates pitchfork. Speaking for myself I think they're pretty good at what they do, I just get a tad annoyed when they try to force their alt indie cred by giving high review scores to frankly mediocre and forgettable artists just before realizing how crap they actually are and backlashing their careers to death on their future releases - or you know placing 'gold soundz' as the best song of the 90s.

Moka, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Gold Soundz

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

OutKast - "Spottieottedopalicious" 3

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH?

― a hoy hoy, Thursday, September 9, 2010 7:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

this makes me fucking nauseous.

Moreno, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Half of the Pitchfork writers regularly contribute to ilm? And I think we can all agree nabisco otm. Even lex and geir.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link

plz say you mean the song coming last and not the song itself is what makes you nauseous?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

it doesnt make you nauseous it makes you <em>nauseated</em>

max, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

thankig u max

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Friday, 10 September 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm tempted to start a meta thread where max thinks he's posting on gawker instead of ilx

J0rdan S., Friday, 10 September 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the opposite would be funnier

max, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link

to you

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Friday, 10 September 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link

html is hard to keep track of yall

max, Friday, 10 September 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL @ OutKast losing this poll, totally undeserved.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 10 September 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link


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