Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

fail is not the greatest of evils; it is worse to want to fail, and not be able to

also worse to like NMH

List feels ridiculously revisionist, like it's been put together on the basis of who people rated during the 00s - exhibit A being the inclusion of Outkast.

Nah, lots of people only rep for Outkast's 90s stuff. Yeah it's a shit list but that's legit I think.

outkast weren't much known in the uk iirc. maybe it was different in the US, though PROBABLY NOT among future-p4k-writers.

all my posts are predicated on not giving a flying fuck about p4k

Outkast had three top 20 records in the states and several videos that had huge airplay in the 90s. Pretty inescapable even for people like me who weren't paying particular attention.

man, why wouldn't you want this list to be revisionist - do you really just want a bunch of pitchfork writers to tell you what they were listening to in elementary school/high school/college?

It wd be funner.

List could do with some Crash Test Dummies

If you think this list was revisionist check out their "songs of the 60s" list, guarantee they were listening to NONE of that shit back then

I too would be shocked and amazed to discover that Pitchfork writers were listening to Neutral Milk Hotel and Pavement at college.

wait are you complaining this list is too revisionist or not enough now

Not complaining at all, just changing the angle of derision for the sake of it.

lol

do you really just want a bunch of pitchfork writers to tell you what they were listening to in elementary school/high school/college?

ideally i don't want a bunch of pfork writers telling me anything about what they've ever listened to

again, probably best not to read the site or related ilm threads then

They've actually pitched up outside his house, next to the man who sells hotdogs on matchdays.

i don't read the site!

i always think ilx is better than to agree w/pfork ;_;

GOD I WISH

i always think ilx is better than to agree w/pfork ;_;

well, you know, broken clocks telling the correct time twice a day and all that...

i mean, pfork loved the bug record, which i also loved, and so i think did you... so even you agree with pfork sometimes?

more like pfork agrees with me sometimes.

i mean, occasional agreement w/anyone isn't surprising, it's more...i'm constantly surprised, though, i shouldn't be, by how much of ilx self-identifies as, uh, pitchfolk.

They've actually pitched up outside his house, next to the man who sells hotdogs on matchdays.

we got rid of that man.

Really, how?

our landlord's secretary wrote him a Stern Letter

Lex, a good chunk of the people who currently write for Pitchfork are posters from this board dating back to its inception! It would be weird if there WASN'T any overlap or interest between ILM and Pitchfork, all things considered.

"i'm disappointed a message board of people likes stuff i don't like" is a sentiment i just can't grasp!

nah I feel that way about the motherfucking Beatles

based on the general response to Joanna Newsom and AnCo/AnCo-related threads, I think that ILM still has connections to the indie world. And any message boards with connections to the indie world is going to acknowledge and discuss pitchfork, as it should. also, disagreeing with pitchfork just because it's pitchfork is just as bad as agreeing with pitchfork just because it's pitchfork.

I don't think this list is very revisionist. It's a pretty accurate top 20 of my 90s, especially ages 12-18.

It's not revisionist of how the '90s played out as much as it's revisionist of what Pfork covered in the '90s (e.g., there's no way the site would've given Aaliyah or BIG the time of day during the actual '90s).

oh yeah totally agree with that.

But, you know, gave Discovery a bad review etc etc

and animal collective iirc

ha I went to look just because I couldn't believe it and they gave Danse Manatee a 3.9

everything else got a 7.1 or higher though

Well that makes sense, though -- Danse Manatee was awful.

It's not revisionist of how the '90s played out as much as it's revisionist of what Pfork covered in the '90s

Not all that surprising, though, since only three staffers from 2000 are still on board today: Schreiber, Richardson, LeMay.

From the archives.

"It's embarrasing to admit to liking this record, but somebody's got to do it. I feel pretty confident there are others just like me out there."

Thank you Ryan Schreiber, I am not alone in my Pet Sho Boys guilty-pleasure love.

I think Bilingual is the only PSB album I still haven't heard

i think this tangent deserves its own thread

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I know they are obvious but I still have a special place in my heart for "Rosa Parks" and "Miss Jackson".

Catchall feature today roundly bests the actual list, compleat nonshocka.

sorry miss jackson.... i am for reeeeeeaaaaaaaall

lol fine. but by all standards this is pretty underwhelming to me, esp for a first single. like taylor swift "mine"-level underwhelming.

wtf lol WRONG THREAD. need to stop opening tabs.

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went with "Only Shallow"

ditto

DEPECHE MODEEEE

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