Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

"pfk person"!!

voted 4 the weezer jam cuz its so fukken righteous

"i'm a loser so why don't you kill me?" - OK THEN, happily!

^^ still my favorite moment of this thread

when i read this i srsly snapped my fingers & shouted OWNED! at the screen

"pfk person"!!

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 September 2010 19:15 (2 minutes ago)

Their writers. The more doctrinaire readers too maybe. No need to be alarmed, they seem harmless enough.

"pfk person"!!

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"their writers"!

voted 4 the weezer jam cuz its so fukken righteous

― swagula (Lamp), Sunday, September 5, 2010 7:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i lol'd

Voted for Mazzy Star but could've easily voted for anything else. Only song in here I don't care about is Holland 1945.

neutral milk in general is overrated hipster trash. "semen stains the mountaintops" -- OoOoO, so edgy, contemporary, and artfully done. ALBUM OF THE DECADE.

Anybody else think that "When You Sleep" is twice as nice as "Only Shallow"? What a lazy pick.

― coolsundays, Sunday, September 5, 2010 5:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's arbitrary. i probably would have gone with "to here knows when"

― max skim (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 5, 2010 5:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

great album but let's all stop fronting about it, the songs on it are all pretty much the same right

"Touched" would've solidified everything ever said negatively about p4k, tho. i actually sort of wished it would happen.

"semen stains the mountaintops" -- OoOoO, so edgy, contemporary, and artfully done.

this is ridiculous

sorta my point.

I guess every pfk person shares a certain memory of feeling awed the first time they heard the opening chords of Loveless, whether they did or not

otm. anybody who lives loveless fronting like 'only shallow' does not have one of the most stylish, attractive, immediate & just totally, like, mind-blowing (&thus unifying) opening riffs of all time is stinking shit up in this pitchfork thread

Anybody else think that "When You Sleep" is twice as nice as "Only Shallow"? What a lazy pick.

really hate this (type of) post. my favourite song on the album is "i only said" but what the fuck does that have to do with anything, you know?

in quebec the french acronym for KFC is PFK; poulet frit kentucky and my brain is always tricked when people spell p4k that way

stinking shit up in this pitchfork thread

sigfiles I would totally use, no. 73 in a series

at the same, "i only said" has one of the most cathartic "guitar solos" in music history. i rewound that song dozens of times the very first time i heard it just so i could experience that sense of violent, roaring calm again. for reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVj-fc1M_D0
its at about 1:45, but you really have to listen to it in context to really appreciate it. then again i feel like i'm talking down to all of you just by queuing the video up in the first place, so i'll shut up now.

only shallow is a cool song but i hardly find "tap tap tap" the sole reason it truimphed amongst all the others. soon, or what you want, really should've taken it's place.

but what i care? life goez on.

OH FUCK IT NOW IM ANGRY

man you ain't gotta scarequote guitar solos - guitar solos are awesome iirc

yeah but it's more like a continuation of what's already been going on, with another layer of what i'm just going to presume is a sample machine and really mixed-far-back vocals. it's more like a change of pace than a guitar solo. mbv doesn't really have guitar solos. either way.

i think its like, people who love mbv have not only just heard only shallow but have probably listened to loveless a billion times and have rewound that "solo" and cultivated a small crop of extra favourites that are the ones that are closest to the innerest folds of their heart and stuck with them. but unless you are arguing that only shallow is not a good example of what-the-album-is-all-about or that it is NOT a fucking jam (in which case, see: my previous post) there's no point saying there's a more perfect representative, right?

not at all - i was really more arguing that the "tap tap tap tap" that introduces Loveless is entirely unmemorable. but i'm going to refrain right now as that was a reaction to gibreel's comment that - upon re-read - i realize now refers to the "elephant crying" riff that introduces loveless, and not the way the album opens up with four frantic hits. i really am an idiot and having a hard time believing that that all appeared logical to me(that only shallow's greatest merit is it's first 2 seconds).

loool - i understand

i was trying pretty hard to avoid this thread anyways & not expecting much good to come of it :)

It's "Blown a Wish" anyway.

great album but let's all stop fronting about it, the songs on it are all pretty much the same right

― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, September 6, 2010 5:42 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

o no u didn't

No lie I love that album but I couldn't tell you what any of the songs were called on it.

I mean I know what some of the titles are but I couldn't pin them to a riff or anything.

Not like I didn't vote Dre on this bollocks anyway.

i'll be real and say i could identify about five:

the first one
loomer
to here knows when
blown a wish (enya everywhere in this bitch)
soon

otm. anybody who lives loveless fronting like 'only shallow' does not have one of the most stylish, attractive, immediate & just totally, like, mind-blowing (&thus unifying) opening riffs of all time is stinking shit up in this pitchfork thread

That may be so, but the album is full of great tracks. As NV said they're difficult to parse in recollection, I've probably played it more than any other album but I forget which songs are which. So my theory was that the evil pfk ppl chose the first track in order to create a sense of phenomenological coherence that may not really exist in our cruelly random world where everybody has a favourite song and nobody knows what it's called [via late capitalism].

Nah that big unwindy "shit my tape player's fucked" riff at the beginning was a game-changer at the time and still sounds as good as anything on there.

think there was once upon a time a small consensus around the two singles, especially 'soon' [via vague 'dance element' guilt]

That was probably the best known song at the time.

Symphonic Chaos". Melody Maker. December 1990. "And [Soon] won them acclaim from Brian Eno, who, in a lecture at New York's Museum Of Modern Art, described it as 'the vaguest piece of music ever to get into the charts'. If Steve Reich or Glenn Branca had been responsible for it, he continued, they would have been given an award by the classical music establishment."

Though 'To Here Knows When' was vaguer still (released afterwards).

Belle and Sebastian - "The State I Am In":

WTF?!

anyway, i'll go with NMH

or maybe gold soundz

i dunno how you're wtf'ing b&S then plumping for the other two most milquetoasted tracks on the list but eh

Side order of SB with your NMH

ok, this last is like the "greatest hits" of 90's indie.

of course there are better songs by pavement/NMH, but gold soundz and holland are good one's and State i Am In is one of the worst B&S songs ever.

if i would make my top 20 90's songs list - none of those songs would appear in it.relatively speaking, those are the best imo.

that "loser" song. i remember that from when it came out! absolutely dreadful. it's like a fucking parody of every socially inept indie mumble there's every been!

...seriously i remember laughing at that song w/my girls in high school, it was so obviously lame.

It is a parody of socially indept indie mumble, which is why it's so great! It's both a parody and a foreshadowing of the next 20 years of indie! Plus it has a sitar! I seriously remember laughing at it -- and the wonderful music video. Laughing at it and laughing in complete joy! My pick for No. 1.

The solo in Weezer, tho, is one of the best guitar solos of all time.

Voted "Loser"

I vote Paranoid Android cuz it was one of the quirkiest pop singles I ever heard on MTV in the 90s. I was already a Radiohead fan at that point (due to The Bends) but that opening acoustic riff, the video, plus the awesome coda made me clamoring to get OK Computer.

you may be way too cool for neutral milk hotel but no way is "holland, 1945" 'milquetoasted'

great album but let's all stop fronting about it, the songs on it are all pretty much the same right

― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, September 6, 2010 12:42 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thanking u

kev otm

lovin "to milquetoast" as a verb tbh

First time I ever heard "Paranoid Android" was listening to that album while driving around in Athens, Ga, and right when he started singing "Rain down" it started raining I swear to God. I will never forget that day.

Woah and i can think of a dozen or so Pavement songs i like more than "Gold Soundz".

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