Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

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There's nothing wrong with having money per se.

wait what?

the whole point of 'common people' is that rich people suck

what is the greek chick to do?

obvi not try to enjoy herself among the poor folk, because they're unsmiling, canine types who'll rip you apart if you even try to bro down with them

so i guess just stick to her own?

i am legernd (history mayne), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Or not run round Bermondsey swigging Special Brew shouting 'ee by gum, when does the bear baiting begin?'

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah honestly the biggest wtf for me on this list was "say it ain't so" getting so high. fine track but wwwwwwwwwwwwwtf. and i fucking hate neutral milk hotel, i heard that album and though it was awful -_-

teledyldonix, Saturday, 4 September 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Buddy Holly has the stench of Windows '95 all over it. Say It Ain't So is a relatively laid back number with more interesting lyrics that featured a video where his mother was doing laundry in the garage and they were playing with a hackey sack in slow motion while wearing a t-shirt with a storm trooper helmet on i really don't know what's so strange about all this to you guys.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Saturday, 4 September 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I like all of these songs except for DJ Shadow, voted 'Fade Into You'

iatee, Saturday, 4 September 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Buddy Holly is a cute song but it almost certainly wasn't even the best song released that week.

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Let alone that decade.

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yes i am biased b/c many have noticed my fervent fantacism for mbv, but i really truly think almost any song on loveless can be considered one of the greatest achievements of the 90's. pavement could've been a band today.

baddest boy on the internet (kelpolaris), Saturday, 4 September 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Beck - "Loser"
2. Neutral Milk Hotel - "Holland, 1945"
3. DJ Shadow - "Midnight in a Perfect World"
4. Wu-Tang Clan - "Protect Ya Neck"
5. My Bloody Valentine - "Only Shallow"
6. Pavement - "Gold Soundz"
7. Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker"

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

OutKast - "Spottieottedopalicious"
The Notorious B.I.G. - "Juicy"
Dr. Dre [ft. Snoop Doggy Dogg] - "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang"
Daft Punk - "Da Funk"
Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?"
Björk - "Hyperballad"
Wu-Tang Clan - "Protect Ya Neck"
Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
Pulp - "Common People"
Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker"
Weezer - "Say It Ain't So"

^^^like all these

Beck - "Loser"

^^^don't like

don't know the others don't even know what mazzy star is

unfinested display names I have loved (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF0lRYhhiwI

dy (max) ia (crüt), Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

funny thing about Mazzy Star is they were real shy during live performances, and if the crowd got too loud they'd threaten to end the concert. they had one song the fans dubbed the "shh shh" song because Mazzy Star demanded total quiet during it.

funky brewster (San Te), Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

hope sandoval is so cute like that isn't she. i mean if you find corpse-like vocal delivery cute. which i do.

i like the lighting in this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H88g_Eew4PY

teledyldonix, Sunday, 5 September 2010 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for 'Loser'.

zeus, Sunday, 5 September 2010 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

probably wouldn't have voted for "Common People", even though it's a great song (and good for karaoke, as someone mentioned way upthread) and I've been replaying Different Class a lot lately... but its ability to set off enormous clusterfuck threads 15 years down the road has to count for something, right?

PS as an American who is 'class-conscious' but doesn't really know about the specifics of the British system, it seems obvious to me that the target is more a certain romantic (young person's?) view of "common people" than, like, every wealthy person in England

I.C.P. Freely (bernard snowy), Sunday, 5 September 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

read the thread!
in short, for british people who were around then, the context was a big part of the story.

i am legernd (history mayne), Sunday, 5 September 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Pavement - "Gold Soundz"
My Bloody Valentine - "Only Shallow"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Holland, 1945"
The Notorious B.I.G. - "Juicy"
Wu-Tang Clan - "Protect Ya Neck"
Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
Dr. Dre [ft. Snoop Doggy Dogg] - "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang"
Weezer - "Say It Ain't So"
Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Depeche Mode - "Enjoy the Silence"
OutKast - "Spottieottedopalicious"
Pulp - "Common People"

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 September 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I did read the thread! and like half of the other one. just sayin'.

I.C.P. Freely (bernard snowy), Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Who honestly thinks gold soundz is the best song of the 1990s?????

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

some dudes at pfork. read yr blogs.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I have thought that before, altho not right now (RIP summer)

I.C.P. Freely (bernard snowy), Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

someone put on protect ya neck at a party i was at friday night and me and a friend switched back n forth verses and rapped the entire thing. having some girl troubles and was feelin really bummed out all night but it cheered me up so much

samosa gibreel, Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Anybody else think that "When You Sleep" is twice as nice as "Only Shallow"? What a lazy pick.

coolsundays, Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

it's arbitrary. i probably would have gone with "to here knows when"

max skim (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone else mentioned their tendency to cite a (usually indie) album's first track if there are no famous singles. It's the usual conceit you get in pfk reviews in weird and futile attempts to forge experiential consensus. 'That was the Sebadoh album we had been all been waiting for after the generational trauma of Waco, and it didn't disappoint'. Though I guess every pfk person shares a certain memory of feeling awed the first time they heard the opening chords of Loveless, whether they did or not.

no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

"pfk person"!!

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

voted 4 the weezer jam cuz its so fukken righteous

swagula (Lamp), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"i'm a loser so why don't you kill me?" - OK THEN, happily!

^^ still my favorite moment of this thread

when i read this i srsly snapped my fingers & shouted OWNED! at the screen

swagula (Lamp), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"pfk person"!!

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 September 2010 19:15 (2 minutes ago)

Their writers. The more doctrinaire readers too maybe. No need to be alarmed, they seem harmless enough.

no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"pfk person"!!

Pitchfolk

Duran (Doran), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"pitchfolk"!

lmborghini (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 September 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"their writers"!

max skim (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 September 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

voted 4 the weezer jam cuz its so fukken righteous

― swagula (Lamp), Sunday, September 5, 2010 7:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i lol'd

i am legernd (history mayne), Sunday, 5 September 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for Mazzy Star but could've easily voted for anything else. Only song in here I don't care about is Holland 1945.

Moka, Monday, 6 September 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

neutral milk in general is overrated hipster trash. "semen stains the mountaintops" -- OoOoO, so edgy, contemporary, and artfully done. ALBUM OF THE DECADE.

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Anybody else think that "When You Sleep" is twice as nice as "Only Shallow"? What a lazy pick.

― coolsundays, Sunday, September 5, 2010 5:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's arbitrary. i probably would have gone with "to here knows when"

― max skim (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 5, 2010 5:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

great album but let's all stop fronting about it, the songs on it are all pretty much the same right

gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 6 September 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"Touched" would've solidified everything ever said negatively about p4k, tho. i actually sort of wished it would happen.

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link

"semen stains the mountaintops" -- OoOoO, so edgy, contemporary, and artfully done.

this is ridiculous

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 6 September 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

sorta my point.

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 04:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess every pfk person shares a certain memory of feeling awed the first time they heard the opening chords of Loveless, whether they did or not

otm. anybody who lives loveless fronting like 'only shallow' does not have one of the most stylish, attractive, immediate & just totally, like, mind-blowing (&thus unifying) opening riffs of all time is stinking shit up in this pitchfork thread

Anybody else think that "When You Sleep" is twice as nice as "Only Shallow"? What a lazy pick.

really hate this (type of) post. my favourite song on the album is "i only said" but what the fuck does that have to do with anything, you know?

i saw momus kissing san te claus (samosa gibreel), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

in quebec the french acronym for KFC is PFK; poulet frit kentucky and my brain is always tricked when people spell p4k that way

i saw momus kissing san te claus (samosa gibreel), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link

stinking shit up in this pitchfork thread

sigfiles I would totally use, no. 73 in a series

gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

at the same, "i only said" has one of the most cathartic "guitar solos" in music history. i rewound that song dozens of times the very first time i heard it just so i could experience that sense of violent, roaring calm again. for reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVj-fc1M_D0
its at about 1:45, but you really have to listen to it in context to really appreciate it. then again i feel like i'm talking down to all of you just by queuing the video up in the first place, so i'll shut up now.

only shallow is a cool song but i hardly find "tap tap tap" the sole reason it truimphed amongst all the others. soon, or what you want, really should've taken it's place.

but what i care? life goez on.

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

OH FUCK IT NOW IM ANGRY

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

man you ain't gotta scarequote guitar solos - guitar solos are awesome iirc

gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but it's more like a continuation of what's already been going on, with another layer of what i'm just going to presume is a sample machine and really mixed-far-back vocals. it's more like a change of pace than a guitar solo. mbv doesn't really have guitar solos. either way.

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i think its like, people who love mbv have not only just heard only shallow but have probably listened to loveless a billion times and have rewound that "solo" and cultivated a small crop of extra favourites that are the ones that are closest to the innerest folds of their heart and stuck with them. but unless you are arguing that only shallow is not a good example of what-the-album-is-all-about or that it is NOT a fucking jam (in which case, see: my previous post) there's no point saying there's a more perfect representative, right?

i saw momus kissing san te claus (samosa gibreel), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

not at all - i was really more arguing that the "tap tap tap tap" that introduces Loveless is entirely unmemorable. but i'm going to refrain right now as that was a reaction to gibreel's comment that - upon re-read - i realize now refers to the "elephant crying" riff that introduces loveless, and not the way the album opens up with four frantic hits. i really am an idiot and having a hard time believing that that all appeared logical to me(that only shallow's greatest merit is it's first 2 seconds).

lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link

loool - i understand

i was trying pretty hard to avoid this thread anyways & not expecting much good to come of it :)

i saw momus kissing san te claus (samosa gibreel), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

It's "Blown a Wish" anyway.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Monday, 6 September 2010 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link


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