Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

i'm a diet coke with lime man, myself

lex - i haven't read the thread, just skimmed it, so i ask this sincerely and feel free to tell me I'm wrong but

1. why so upset about an indie list? surely for a crusader like yourself it is great to see wu tang and aaliyah above nirvana and then after that, you don't really get it so its not worth getting angry about?

2. common people is a pop song, its not exactly supposed to sort out a 1000 yrs of class issues. catchy though. loser is supposed to be funny and silly and throwaway. other stuff we should all just let go.

3. life is for enjoying, not spending yr friday night bitching abouts pitchfork.

:)

3. life is for enjoying, not spending yr friday night bitching abouts pitchfork.

I think I speak on behalf of many here when I say I will kill you

with my bare fucking hands

i don't think common people is overly simplistic or insufficiently nuanced at all btw

lol aero

life is for enjoying, not spending yr friday night bitching abouts pitchfork.

Friday NITE, sure. But Friday afternoon stretching eternally at horrible day job with only 5 minutes of work to fill 3 hours, threads like this are actually really really good for.

and what's actually even worse are people like electricsound who contribute nothing except popping in to pile on someone once everyone else starts

you really are the most pathetic individual in this entire board's history.

1. i'm not upset about the list! i don't know what's on it. i have no intention of clicking on pfork again. i was amused at finding these DREADFUL songs being repped for by anyone, anywhere, and people took offense.
2. "it's just a pop song" is my least favourite defence of stupid or unconvincing songs. though even if the lyrics were any good i'd still hate the sound. "loser" is just a piece of shit.
3. alternative to bitching about pfork is currently transcribing endless endless interview, neither offers much in the way of enjoyment :(

One area where I completely have Lex's back is re: Pavement; that song is horrible.

i was amused at finding these DREADFUL songs being repped for by anyone, anywhere

Do you really have no way of understanding what might make some people like them, though? I mean, I don't give a toss about Bob Dylan at all -- I think his music is boring -- but I absolutely get why other people, those who privilege things like lyrics and personae more than I do, find something of value in him. I'd be curious to know why you think so many people like Beck or Pavement or My Bloody Valentine or Neutral Milk Hotel.

(Without suggesting that those people are dumb or brainwashed or whatever.)

I'll forever rep for "In the Aeroplane Over The Sea". It's one of my favourite albums for a lot of reasons. I don't think it has anything to do with being brainwashed, it's just very good.

Lots of songs by bands I like that aren't necessarily songs I like - Gold Soundz isn't even that great a song.

reptilian shapeshifters trying to control our brains thru indie music iirc

Don't want to derail thread, but I love Dylan because I privilege singing and personae. Lyrics are a happy third.

i think the thread has been officially and thoroughly derailed already.

i love dylan because he's funny as fuck. when he's good.

I love Dylan because he wasn't afraid to move to London to be with the girl he loved even tho he had it made in B Hills

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/submit-a-video/index2.shtml

man i didn't know dylan moved somewhere to be with a chick. hate that dude now.

9/02/10 was yesterday dudes

we're in a post-90210 world now guys

hi, deej!

missed trick by todd haynes, really

http://pinkisthenewblog.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/093008_dylanreturns90210.jpg

see he totally coulda played born again era bob

Bob's got his own teen hearthrob movie:

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/02/ciu/79/d8/fbd8017b42a05c5a45572210.L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

didnt know bob dylan wrote that for cut copy

he also wrote the lyrics for "Windowlicker."

I love Dylan because I privilege singing

O_O

Dylan is one of the most insufferable singers of all time.

OF ALL TIME

Where the big bands of the mid-90s were filling theaters and copping the arena-rock moves that had ossified somewhere back in the 70s,

-_-

Surely he's not talking about ironic boas!

I always have hated Neutral Milk Hotel. Now I'll explain why

1) It's nothing but campfire music with timely, orchestrated buildup shoveled on top
2) The Vocals remind me of an indie version of Blink 182's vocals.
3) It really comes down to #2 most of all. The singer makes me vomit diarrhea

NMH sound is grating for me and not boring like some people mentioned upthread.

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Now I'm listening to 'Commom People'. This has an equivalently annoying sound.

I listen to a lot of lo-fi and experimental junk so I know the difference of harsh music that sounds pleasing and music that is just an annoyance.

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Again, my opinion is just my opinion on what sounds aesthetically pleasing and what does not. So no offense if I shit vomit to a band you truly like.

"I listen to a lot of lo-fi and experimental junk so I know the difference of harsh music that sounds pleasing and music that is just an annoyance."

do tell!

fair enough. don't know what 'campfire music' means though.

"holland 1945" is a beautiful song & fuck anyone who disagrees

so wait, are you shitting vomit or vomiting shit

he knows the difference of shitting vomit that sounds pleasing and vomiting shit that is just an annoyance

xp both at the same time as I listen to holland 1945. but if I hit pause it abrubtly stops until I hit play again

vomiting shit sounds way more like a serious medical condition rather than just an annoyance

in the aeroplane over the sea is such a horrible album

and it gets unbelievably high ratings. I seriously think it is the most overrated indie album of all 90s

or the most appropriately rated

never heard it, does it sound more like shit being vomited or vomit being shat?

as with every list ever, why that MBV song? why that kast song? why that pavement song? why that radiohead song?

xp NMH haters - http://i27.tinypic.com/33mreph.gif

it sounds like david the gnome shitting into the mouthpiece of a french horn and vomiting onto an acoustic guitar

haha

if a picture is worth a thousand words, how much is a gif worth

a thousand posts

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7770/1283501259727.gif

Pavement :: Pitchfork as Sgt. Pepper :: Rolling Stone

hands up if you're surprised by any of this...