Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

tbh this list is p decent, glad to see the outkast choice, protect ya neck, gold soundz, aaliyah etc.

is this thread huge just because lex read pitchfork again?

another bored office worker being a twat to people on the internet, wouldn't have ever guessed

iirc it's that lex thinks when people like music he doesn't like it's really appalling

sam the irony is i genuinely haven't clicked on the actual list, i've no idea what's on it beyond the 20 in the poll!!

For Pitchfork's worldview it's a great list. Plenty of omissions, inevitably, but I like everything here except Weezer.

lex, you're being just as big a twat

early 90s man. that was our sixties. and we blew it

I love this. Voted for 'G Thang'.

i'm not the one admitting to deliberately trolling someone to make them upset?

not admitting to it, no

because being disingenuous is so much better xpost

even though that's pretty much exactly what you're doing, and you're smart enough and self-aware enough to know that

This thread has turned into Summer Heights High. I approve.

"i'm a loser so why don't you kill me?" - OK THEN, happily!

^^ still my favorite moment of this thread

imagining lex sitting back in his chair after typing that to take a sip of his pepsi and say softly to himself "zing"

well if you're going to pile on me for it, i'd also direct you over there to jess

and what's actually even worse are people like electricsound who contribute nothing except popping in to pile on someone once everyone else starts

you know 'sandstorm' even if you think you don't

Nah, I listened to it, didn't sound familiar. Oh well!

i don't drink pepsi

dang

i'm a diet coke with lime man, myself

lex - i haven't read the thread, just skimmed it, so i ask this sincerely and feel free to tell me I'm wrong but

1. why so upset about an indie list? surely for a crusader like yourself it is great to see wu tang and aaliyah above nirvana and then after that, you don't really get it so its not worth getting angry about?

2. common people is a pop song, its not exactly supposed to sort out a 1000 yrs of class issues. catchy though. loser is supposed to be funny and silly and throwaway. other stuff we should all just let go.

3. life is for enjoying, not spending yr friday night bitching abouts pitchfork.

:)

3. life is for enjoying, not spending yr friday night bitching abouts pitchfork.

I think I speak on behalf of many here when I say I will kill you

with my bare fucking hands

i don't think common people is overly simplistic or insufficiently nuanced at all btw

lol aero

life is for enjoying, not spending yr friday night bitching abouts pitchfork.

Friday NITE, sure. But Friday afternoon stretching eternally at horrible day job with only 5 minutes of work to fill 3 hours, threads like this are actually really really good for.

and what's actually even worse are people like electricsound who contribute nothing except popping in to pile on someone once everyone else starts

you really are the most pathetic individual in this entire board's history.

1. i'm not upset about the list! i don't know what's on it. i have no intention of clicking on pfork again. i was amused at finding these DREADFUL songs being repped for by anyone, anywhere, and people took offense.
2. "it's just a pop song" is my least favourite defence of stupid or unconvincing songs. though even if the lyrics were any good i'd still hate the sound. "loser" is just a piece of shit.
3. alternative to bitching about pfork is currently transcribing endless endless interview, neither offers much in the way of enjoyment :(

One area where I completely have Lex's back is re: Pavement; that song is horrible.

i was amused at finding these DREADFUL songs being repped for by anyone, anywhere

Do you really have no way of understanding what might make some people like them, though? I mean, I don't give a toss about Bob Dylan at all -- I think his music is boring -- but I absolutely get why other people, those who privilege things like lyrics and personae more than I do, find something of value in him. I'd be curious to know why you think so many people like Beck or Pavement or My Bloody Valentine or Neutral Milk Hotel.

(Without suggesting that those people are dumb or brainwashed or whatever.)

I'll forever rep for "In the Aeroplane Over The Sea". It's one of my favourite albums for a lot of reasons. I don't think it has anything to do with being brainwashed, it's just very good.

Lots of songs by bands I like that aren't necessarily songs I like - Gold Soundz isn't even that great a song.

reptilian shapeshifters trying to control our brains thru indie music iirc

Don't want to derail thread, but I love Dylan because I privilege singing and personae. Lyrics are a happy third.

i think the thread has been officially and thoroughly derailed already.

i love dylan because he's funny as fuck. when he's good.

I love Dylan because he wasn't afraid to move to London to be with the girl he loved even tho he had it made in B Hills

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/submit-a-video/index2.shtml

man i didn't know dylan moved somewhere to be with a chick. hate that dude now.

9/02/10 was yesterday dudes

we're in a post-90210 world now guys

hi, deej!

missed trick by todd haynes, really

http://pinkisthenewblog.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/093008_dylanreturns90210.jpg

see he totally coulda played born again era bob

Bob's got his own teen hearthrob movie:

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/02/ciu/79/d8/fbd8017b42a05c5a45572210.L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

didnt know bob dylan wrote that for cut copy

he also wrote the lyrics for "Windowlicker."

I love Dylan because I privilege singing

O_O

Dylan is one of the most insufferable singers of all time.

OF ALL TIME

Where the big bands of the mid-90s were filling theaters and copping the arena-rock moves that had ossified somewhere back in the 70s,

-_-

Surely he's not talking about ironic boas!

I always have hated Neutral Milk Hotel. Now I'll explain why

1) It's nothing but campfire music with timely, orchestrated buildup shoveled on top
2) The Vocals remind me of an indie version of Blink 182's vocals.
3) It really comes down to #2 most of all. The singer makes me vomit diarrhea

NMH sound is grating for me and not boring like some people mentioned upthread.

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Now I'm listening to 'Commom People'. This has an equivalently annoying sound.

I listen to a lot of lo-fi and experimental junk so I know the difference of harsh music that sounds pleasing and music that is just an annoyance.

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Again, my opinion is just my opinion on what sounds aesthetically pleasing and what does not. So no offense if I shit vomit to a band you truly like.