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― (¬_¬) (Nicole), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
oh sorry i see now that was lex! xp to mayne
― zvookster, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i can't even imagine a rock song that takes a "nuanced" view of anything.
I mean, jesus h. christ, yeah, OK, this is why you write for fucking Pitchfork, and this absolutely encapsulates everything about why people around here bitch and moan and complain about said organ.
Time for me to bow out of this conversation now, because this direction of conversation actually *is* going to piss me off.
― cymose corymb (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
"Common People"'s lyrics seem amazingly appropriate for what's going on here.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Is "Sandstorm" the one with Sting and an Algerian dude?
― jaymc, Friday, September 3, 2010 11:41 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
thats desert rose dummy
― max, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually phoned st martins the other week to check that in fact there is no apostrophe there
so i amend my earlier post
― i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
well my work here is done
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
sandstorm is the one that goes "duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh [goes higher] duh duh duh duh duh duh duh [goes lower] duh duh duh duh duh duh duh"
― max, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder where this kind of ferocious, articulate working-class voice exists in indie these days. Pulp had it and the Manics had it but the current crop are almost universally privileged - not rich, necessarily, but relatively comfortable. It's a constant in hip hop - it's all over the Tinie Tempah album - but I don't hear many (any?) new indie musicians with years of financial struggle behind them. I'm not saying that it's better to have that - I hate the tired old Alan McGee point-scoring - but there should be somebody voicing that kind of experience and outlook.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
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Oh my god, people are having a lively debate about something I MUST STOP THAT RIGHT NOW - you actually make me want to go on talking about this with Lex and Dorian until the lights go down.
― cymose corymb (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
this is kind of awesome, i forgot about this
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I know. ;-)
I don't know what "Sandstorm" is, though.
― jaymc, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
could we take this to the sandstorm thread so i can continue trolling kate
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
― max, Friday, September 3, 2010 11:45 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― max, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, I got it - it's 'Enter Sandstorm' right?
― Neggin' you crapative (NickB), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost I feel The Streets' first album, which was certainly not indie, but had a massive indie listenership, captures some of this class consciousness you're referencing here. I might be wrong, but I feel lots of people listened to his writing in the same way as Cocker or Strummer or Morrissey in the past, in addition to all the dance culture references on that record.
― Davek (davek_00), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder where this kind of ferocious, articulate working-class voice exists in indie these days.
new labour and everyone got rich.
the north is all elbow and doves these days.
― a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Skinner=Moz is ©2002 me.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Common People: A lyrical discussion/dissection
― feel free to answer my Korn Kuestion (HI DERE), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
you know 'sandstorm' even if you think you don't
it's probably more omnipresent than the beatles
― ciderpress, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
don't much like 'sandstorm', but i guess out of principle big euro-dance floorfillers > weezer
you know 'sandstorm' even if you think you don'tit's probably more omnipresent than the beatles― ciderpress, Friday, September 3, 2010 4:53 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark
― ciderpress, Friday, September 3, 2010 4:53 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah -- feels like it's still around in a weird way
― i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
srsly though
ould we take this to the sandstorm thread so i can continue trolling kate
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, September 3, 2010 3:48 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
k8 is pretty much worth 100 of you, you utter twit
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
ah that old black magic
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
are you having a nice time there, dear?
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I think I've said everything about Common People/Pulp that I really need to.
I'm gonna spend the rest of the afternoon listening to Aaliyah and Aphex until my head explodes. And probably end up voting Aphex because I want to eat up his little boolies even though that's one of my least favourite songs of his.
― cymose corymb (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
really i'm just bored as shit at work before a holiday weekend
tbh this list is p decent, glad to see the outkast choice, protect ya neck, gold soundz, aaliyah etc.
is this thread huge just because lex read pitchfork again?
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
another bored office worker being a twat to people on the internet, wouldn't have ever guessed
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc it's that lex thinks when people like music he doesn't like it's really appalling
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
sam the irony is i genuinely haven't clicked on the actual list, i've no idea what's on it beyond the 20 in the poll!!
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
For Pitchfork's worldview it's a great list. Plenty of omissions, inevitably, but I like everything here except Weezer.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
lex, you're being just as big a twat
― feel free to answer my Korn Kuestion (HI DERE), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
early 90s man. that was our sixties. and we blew it
I love this. Voted for 'G Thang'.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not the one admitting to deliberately trolling someone to make them upset?
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
not admitting to it, no
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
because being disingenuous is so much better xpost
― do you know sixty (electricsound), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
even though that's pretty much exactly what you're doing, and you're smart enough and self-aware enough to know that
― feel free to answer my Korn Kuestion (HI DERE), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread has turned into Summer Heights High. I approve.
― (¬_¬) (Nicole), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
"i'm a loser so why don't you kill me?" - OK THEN, happily!
^^ still my favorite moment of this thread
― max, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
imagining lex sitting back in his chair after typing that to take a sip of his pepsi and say softly to himself "zing"
― max, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
well if you're going to pile on me for it, i'd also direct you over there to jess
and what's actually even worse are people like electricsound who contribute nothing except popping in to pile on someone once everyone else starts
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, I listened to it, didn't sound familiar. Oh well!
― jaymc, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't drink pepsi
dang
― max, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm a diet coke with lime man, myself
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
lex - i haven't read the thread, just skimmed it, so i ask this sincerely and feel free to tell me I'm wrong but
1. why so upset about an indie list? surely for a crusader like yourself it is great to see wu tang and aaliyah above nirvana and then after that, you don't really get it so its not worth getting angry about?
2. common people is a pop song, its not exactly supposed to sort out a 1000 yrs of class issues. catchy though. loser is supposed to be funny and silly and throwaway. other stuff we should all just let go.
3. life is for enjoying, not spending yr friday night bitching abouts pitchfork.
:)
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I think I speak on behalf of many here when I say I will kill you
with my bare fucking hands
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think common people is overly simplistic or insufficiently nuanced at all btw
― zvookster, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
lol aero