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For the record, I think there is plenty of professional, thoughtful writing in the NYT. I take the time to read it. This isn't an example of that. I would think that being shocked the NYT would do something so foolish would indicate that I expect better of them.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this is all because the nyt said that pitchfork had 'a limited range of interests' or

just sayin, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's more about how much they hate latins

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

both of these seem to be pretty inarguable imo

just sayin, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I have attended journalism classes and even thought of being a journalist myself.

IRL LOL

FRESH MEAT (MFB), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahahahahha this is great

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

glad u s steel has been outed as a complete maniac

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

what in the world is going on itt

markers, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

u s steel has had the Nude Spock book thrown at him more than once iirc

great British wasteman = u (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

u s steel is definitely not nude spock, who was more of a crafty supervillain

('_') (omar little), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah this is entry-level nutbardom but still pretty great

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think it's nutty - considering how people on ilx regularly go apopletic about details and minor signifiers (e.g. politics of messenger bags).

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here? Because I don't like taking too much space in a message board and I'm sorry about that.

^^ you dont think this is nutty, and also terrific

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

lollin all over again

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's terrific, but only nutty in that it's basically saying "i don't give a fuck" about the ilx social conventions

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

oh my god how did i miss all this until now. US STEEL NEVER LEAVE US.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't said anything yet but I think u s steel is one of the best writers i've read in a long time.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahhahaha

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

he's no mar1ssa though

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

think in the wake of blair and miller, the nyt could do worse than to hire u s steel, a man of integrity -- and one with a keen eye on the wordcount

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

well, he's more concise than the PRR guy

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

what's funny is i'm p sure what offended us steel was simply caramanica giving prr dude's account, but departing from direct quotes, tho it's hard to be certain without reading the whole piece, which i'm so not gonna do.

btw markers it's totally all your fault and don't let anyone tell u different

zvookster, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

haaaa

markers, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't said anything yet but I think u s steel is one of the best writers i've read in a long time.

― ('_') (omar little), Friday, September 3, 2010 9:07 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

ow

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

ok i'm reading this guy for the 1st time, the post on the arcade fire album, and its kinda gripping. it actually reads pretty similarly to certain ilm posters when they go in-depth and just freewheel on a topic (which i tend to enjoy!)

ciderpress, Friday, 3 September 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

us steel not the first to be outraged by Jon Caramanica's bias:

http://waltbennett.com/wordpress/?p=1165

Who The Hell Is Jon Caramanica?

The doughy white dude who wants to teach us about race.

Thirty-four years old, 12 or so years out of Harvard. Writes about music for the New York Times.

Quite white.

Yep, I absolutely agree that Jon Caramanica is qualified to tell us what’s wrong with John Mayer, and to assure us that “what Mr. Mayer might perceive as a progressive understanding of race can be just as shortsighted and pat as a conservative one. It also shows just how easy it is to presume that cultural intimacy means comprehension.”

Let me just ask now: Has Caramanica spoken to Mayer about his true views?

I’ll answer my own question: Caramanica has no clue and doesn’t care. He had one motive in his “review” of Mayer’s MSG concert: To kick up as much dust as possible in the hope that somebody would care about his opinion.

Oh, right: Because you know better than Mayer does what it means to be black in America.

Which we can tell by looking at your picture. Or from the fact that you hang with black musicians. Or from the explanations you provided in this hit job.

Please, Mr. “I went to Harvard so I could write music reviews”, please oh please tell us all that you know about race which eludes Mayer.

But here is my real question: Why does Mother Times allow people such as Caramanica to wander so far from their mandate, especially when it’s for clear self-aggrandizing purposes?

Or is it Mother Times’ opinion that Caramanica has elevated this discourse and shared with us something which is so meaningful that they just had to let it through?

More likely: Do they even acknowledge such a thing anymore as journalistic standards?

President Keyes, Friday, 3 September 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Quite doughy

buzza, Friday, 3 September 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

guy in that photo is not "doughy"

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

the outraged by jon caramanica list now stands at:

u s steel
some blogger

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

That's more than enough for a Village Voice cover story.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Saturday, 4 September 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

met this guy last night

max, Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

pitchfork reviews reviews, not u s steel

max, Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

how was he?

markers, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

normal

max, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

dope

markers, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Most serial killers said hello to their neighbors too.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

think we need some sort of "There's a Riot Going On" tag for Site New Answers so I don't miss out on pile-ons in threads with unpromising titles.

Eejit Piaf (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

bookmarking this effectively gives you that feature: THIS IS THE THREAD WHERE WE SUM UP ILX CLUSTERFUCK THREADS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THEM, NOW BACK TO ITS GRAND TRADITION OF "GUH?".

markers, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Since this thread isn't on that thread yet your premise is flawed.

Eejit Piaf (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here?

k3vin k., Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

No why because I don't like taking up too much space on a message board

Eejit Piaf (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i would say he was "surprisingly" normal

he is familiar w/ this thread fwiw

max, Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

O_O

k3vin k., Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

did you tell him he reminded you of a more earnest burt_stanton?

The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

does he know burt_stanton?

sarahel, Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

pitchfork reviews book club?

post below to show ur support for I love football separatism (cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

he is familiar w/ this thread fwiw

Nice, did he say anything else about it?

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Sunday, 12 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link


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