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seems to be nytimes articles reviewsbro

I have attended journalism classes and even thought of being a journalist myself.

^^ needs to reach meme status imo

Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here? Because I don't like taking too much space in a message board and I'm sorry about that.

actually this is better

like i am sure that you are good people and all, us steel, but you seem to be inferring nefariousness from NYT times which i honestly feel is not there. no offense intended.

Experts Fear Mideast Talks Are Too Ambitious
By ISABEL KERSHNER
Published: September 2, 2010

JERUSALEM — As the Israeli and Palestinian leaders pledged at the peace summit meeting in Washington this week to try to resolve the core issues that have long divided their people and bloodied the land, a growing number of stakeholders here in Israel worried that the two sides were aiming too high.

this is how it's done: EXPERTS fear the talks are too ambitious. me? nyt reporter? could not say. no feeling one way or another. just gonna write it up using the neutral and nonjudgemental medium we like to call english.

no offense nrq but... have you ever taken a journalism class?

or even thought about being a journalist yourself?

because im not sure youre qualified to have this discussion

Let's review the press, shall we?

The NYT article is inaccurate. Here is the Chicago Tribune article linked to through Wikipedia ( a much fairer, less curmudgeonly and better researched article):

But Pitchfork's rave review for Radiohead's highly anticipated "Kid A" album in fall 2000 brought an influx of new readers from other band Web sites and message boards. Though the writing on the site remains wildly erratic, it is fervent; the most hostile reviews are written with the passion of a freshly jilted lover berating her ex. And the rave reviews carry weight with readers looking for the next big thing.

Kid A: not mainstream "rock".

x-post to "i am legernd" (your opinion toward the media is passive and cynical...I am just trying to be helpful in indicating that actual journalism programs don't recommend certain approaches). Anyway, mainstream newspapers write bad or misleading headlines all the time, that doesn't mean we the readership should let it slide.

I rest my case that ONE NYT article is inappropriate, thoughtless and inaccurate. I am just horrified that they did something so unprofessional and this isn't the first time, either.

contenderizer, I have seen this attitude toward blogs or so-called "indie" sites TOO many times from allegedly authoritative news sources like the New York Times.

Is inferring nefariousness a crime? You don't care enough to make a convincing argument to the contrary.

you are an actual nut

but i dont like taking too much space in a message board

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For the record, I think there is plenty of professional, thoughtful writing in the NYT. I take the time to read it. This isn't an example of that. I would think that being shocked the NYT would do something so foolish would indicate that I expect better of them.

http://orangenuts.com/images/the_actual_nut.jpg

this is all because the nyt said that pitchfork had 'a limited range of interests' or

i think it's more about how much they hate latins

both of these seem to be pretty inarguable imo

I have attended journalism classes and even thought of being a journalist myself.

IRL LOL

hahahahahahahha this is great

glad u s steel has been outed as a complete maniac

what in the world is going on itt

u s steel has had the Nude Spock book thrown at him more than once iirc

u s steel is definitely not nude spock, who was more of a crafty supervillain

yeah this is entry-level nutbardom but still pretty great

i don't think it's nutty - considering how people on ilx regularly go apopletic about details and minor signifiers (e.g. politics of messenger bags).

Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here? Because I don't like taking too much space in a message board and I'm sorry about that.

^^ you dont think this is nutty, and also terrific

lollin all over again

i think it's terrific, but only nutty in that it's basically saying "i don't give a fuck" about the ilx social conventions

oh my god how did i miss all this until now. US STEEL NEVER LEAVE US.

I haven't said anything yet but I think u s steel is one of the best writers i've read in a long time.

hahahahhahaha

he's no mar1ssa though

think in the wake of blair and miller, the nyt could do worse than to hire u s steel, a man of integrity -- and one with a keen eye on the wordcount

well, he's more concise than the PRR guy

what's funny is i'm p sure what offended us steel was simply caramanica giving prr dude's account, but departing from direct quotes, tho it's hard to be certain without reading the whole piece, which i'm so not gonna do.

btw markers it's totally all your fault and don't let anyone tell u different

haaaa

I haven't said anything yet but I think u s steel is one of the best writers i've read in a long time.

― ('_') (omar little), Friday, September 3, 2010 9:07 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

ow

ok i'm reading this guy for the 1st time, the post on the arcade fire album, and its kinda gripping. it actually reads pretty similarly to certain ilm posters when they go in-depth and just freewheel on a topic (which i tend to enjoy!)

us steel not the first to be outraged by Jon Caramanica's bias:

http://waltbennett.com/wordpress/?p=1165

Who The Hell Is Jon Caramanica?

The doughy white dude who wants to teach us about race.

Thirty-four years old, 12 or so years out of Harvard. Writes about music for the New York Times.

Quite white.

Yep, I absolutely agree that Jon Caramanica is qualified to tell us what’s wrong with John Mayer, and to assure us that “what Mr. Mayer might perceive as a progressive understanding of race can be just as shortsighted and pat as a conservative one. It also shows just how easy it is to presume that cultural intimacy means comprehension.”

Let me just ask now: Has Caramanica spoken to Mayer about his true views?

I’ll answer my own question: Caramanica has no clue and doesn’t care. He had one motive in his “review” of Mayer’s MSG concert: To kick up as much dust as possible in the hope that somebody would care about his opinion.

Oh, right: Because you know better than Mayer does what it means to be black in America.

Which we can tell by looking at your picture. Or from the fact that you hang with black musicians. Or from the explanations you provided in this hit job.

Please, Mr. “I went to Harvard so I could write music reviews”, please oh please tell us all that you know about race which eludes Mayer.

But here is my real question: Why does Mother Times allow people such as Caramanica to wander so far from their mandate, especially when it’s for clear self-aggrandizing purposes?

Or is it Mother Times’ opinion that Caramanica has elevated this discourse and shared with us something which is so meaningful that they just had to let it through?

More likely: Do they even acknowledge such a thing anymore as journalistic standards?

Quite doughy

guy in that photo is not "doughy"

the outraged by jon caramanica list now stands at:

u s steel
some blogger

That's more than enough for a Village Voice cover story.

met this guy last night

pitchfork reviews reviews, not u s steel

how was he?

normal

dope

Most serial killers said hello to their neighbors too.

lol