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dude, why are so butthurt about that?

i think i'm going to eat pretzels and read a magazine. maybe i'll have some ice cream with strawberries.

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link

idk if prr guy has been granted the gift of self-knowledge

if it is a put-on then well played i guess? but there are too few laughs along the way

i am legernd (history mayne), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Can someone give me an example of a smug Pitchfork review....I don't always agree with them but I don't find them particularly offensive. It's not like they are trying to run my life or something.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

why does he pick the salt off the pretzels - that's like the best part?

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yes but no, pretzel salt can be a challenge. i always wipe off like half the salt. if it doesn't really want to cling to the pretzel matter, it shouldn't be there.

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

those are some substandard pretzels imo

should be beaten over the head with a copy of ANNA KARENINA IMO

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link

why doesn't he just eat some bread if he's going to cretinise his pretzels like that

ultimusmoron (cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

pretzels are not just bread though. they are more like anorexic bagels. different in kind.

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link

why does he pick the salt off the pretzels - that's like the best part?

― sarahel, Thursday, September 2, 2010 10:28 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

he addresses this directly:

because i don’t want to eat that much salt because it is bad for your heart and makes you feel bloated

i am legernd (history mayne), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Dude what a fuckin' wuss. You gives a shit what some nobody says about you on the internet. Grow some self esteem, man.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

"picking salt off pretzels" pretty much sums up his approach to writing/life

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

so people who like this, do you still browse for random livejournals too?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 September 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

has anyone actually claimed to like this other than contenderizer?

strongohulkingtonsghost, Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I like this, in the sense that it's almost always fascinating to read. As far as his being the brightest young early-20s music writer on the Internet, he's no Theon Weber.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I really liked the post where he details his night at the p4k office party.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

so anyway today i took the day off from work to drive this van in the presidential motorcade and i hope that by the end of the day i can ask Barack Obama what his favorite indie rock band is and if he’s familiar with Pitchfork (i know he’s 48 but he’s pretty hip and from Chicago and lived there for years while the festival was going on and before he was president) and i’m gonna ask him what he thinks of it if i can!!!

I hope he did NOT.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

has anyone actually claimed to like this other than contenderizer?

I won't go as overboard as contenderizer (mainly because I get made fun on enough already on ILX) but, yeah, I think dude's writing is really evocative. And it has nothing to do w/ being Pfork-related.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not necessarily GREAT WRITING but I like that he has his own distinctive voice, and is so full of energy and enthusiasm. Very fun to read, and while the sentences themselves are not brilliantly constructed, I think he does a fine job of really hitting home on his main points in each post. Especially the longer essays, not the Pfork reviews reviews.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess it means life's too effing short to read pitchfork reviews reviews

― i am legernd (history mayne)

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

it's like the worst-case scenario of someone raised on internet and regurgitating their add mind onto the screen

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

it's like the worst best-case scenario of someone raised on internet and regurgitating their add mind onto the screen

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not necessarily GREAT WRITING but I like that he has his own distinctive voice, and is so full of energy and enthusiasm. Very fun to read, and while the sentences themselves are not brilliantly constructed, I think he does a fine job of really hitting home on his main points in each post. Especially the longer essays, not the Pfork reviews reviews.

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, September 2, 2010 9:49 AM

^ this

i guess it means life's too effing short to read pitchfork reviews reviews

― i am legernd (history mayne)

― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, September 2, 2010 11:28 AM (6 minutes ago)

^ increasingly feeling like this, though

markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I think he does a fine job of really hitting home on his main points in each post

not sure about this tbh, but that's just because I mostly skim-read his stuff

markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

either that or I apparently don't retain much of what I read there for the longterm

markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean you guys can enjoy him and consider him to be this important new voice on the scene if you want. some people probably really love jan terri too.

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I think he does a fine job of really hitting home on his main points in each post

this is a wacky thing to say because of his run on wordvomit style.

also, how is this guy a "music writer" exactly?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

totally not on topic, really, but I've just read one of this guy's post (from a DJ gig in Manhattan) and the dude wrote it on his Blackberry. That's dedication.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

read upthread. there's a whole thing about him posting from the loos at work.

i am legernd (history mayne), Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure he's admitted to writing most of these on the subway/train/whatever via BlackBerry on the way into work.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

^

markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not necessarily GREAT WRITING but I like that he has his own distinctive voice, and is so full of energy and enthusiasm. Very fun to read, and while the sentences themselves are not brilliantly constructed, I think he does a fine job of really hitting home on his main points in each post. Especially the longer essays, not the Pfork reviews reviews.

It's compelling, but not good. Like a car crash.

Parenthetical Grillz, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

It's too personal, like any other blog. Interesting but it basically reads like a diary. Plus I don't need to read about the President's motorcade and schedule unless it's a press release. Too many weirdos out there.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the blog would be better if he stopped posting about Pitchfork reviews and confined his comments about that site to the occasional post, posted less frequently, and edited his stuff a bit more. Not too much more editing, because it's apparent that his off-the-cuff, brain dump, highly enthusiastic and earnest style of writing is a huge part of his appeal. But some editing.

markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Plus I don't need to read about the President's motorcade and schedule unless it's a press release.

You've gotta be kidding. As much as it's not GOOD WRITING, this PRR shit is infinitely more exciting to read than a White House press release!

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

just burst out laughing because I realized I probably read his blog more than I read P4k reviews these days u_u

markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

If you were really driving a van in a motorcade (is it that easy?), you should keep your mouth shut. You don't want to give the impression that the president's security is a joke.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Thursday, 2 September 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I am working my way through all of this. Anyway, I am horrified that the New York Times and the Washington Post would cover an amateur BLOG. Also the NYT article is really bad, and I'm not a huge Pitchfork defender, I just think they serve their market well. But what an ass the NYT writer is for this:

"Regarding reviews, “there’s definitely a drive to be comprehensive,” he said, though one that’s limited by the interests of the site’s staff and by its vision of its readers’ interests. There’s barely any mainstream rock, country or Latin music and only selective engagement with hip-hop, electronic and world music."

i.e. they're "prejudiced", especially against "Latins".

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I am horrified that the New York Times and the Washington Post would cover an amateur BLOG.

why? and i don't think the accusation of racial prejudice is really present in the quote you pulled. it reads more like a snarky but non-condemnatory statement on pitchfork's limited range of interests, relative to the idea that its coverage is "comprehensive" (wherever that comes from).

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i.e. they're "prejudiced", especially against "Latins".

― i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, September 3, 2010 4:45 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf are you talking about

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Pitchfork would look foolish to pander to some snotty NYT writer and his very powerful and often biased audience by including, say, 25% Latin music or 40% hip-hop. Selectivity is a better approach and when I look at the front page I DO see some hip-hop and occasionally world music. Pitchfork is not one person and you are unprofessional and a bad writer when you use terms like "limited range of interests". It sounds like a character judgment.

Pitchfork just makes it easier to learn about new independent rock / pop and the latest hip-hop is usually in there.

Character judgments are unprofessional and tiresome. Racism is implied, after all there is a history of critics either implying or outright accusing "indie" of being white and even racist.

I assume that many of us attended college or have even attempted to write professionally, I have attended journalism classes and even thought of being a journalist myself. Describing Pitchfork in the NYT as ignoring Latin releases is implying that they are "too white" or culturally biased. I expect adults to not harass a person just because it isn't literally spelled out. If you are capable of reading the NYT I expect you to have some sophistication with regard to what the writer implies.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Character judgments are unprofessional and tiresome.

max works for gawker fyi so

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:15 (thirteen years ago) link

you are unprofessional and a bad writer when you use terms like "limited range of interests".

i dunno, it strikes me as accurate though, again, somewhat snarky. within acceptable tolerances, though. and pitchfork's coverage of country and latin music really is pretty limited.

then again, i have never attempted to write professionally, attended journalism classes or thought of being a journalist myself, so i'm probably not up to speed.

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Gawker. Should I be afraid or something? He's still wrong. Saying that pitchfork's coverage of country and latin "is pretty limited" sounds like a character judgment, it is a biased remark. If it were merely on a message board it might be harmless but this was published in the NYT.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:17 (thirteen years ago) link

you are performing quite a close read on that ny times article

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link

you say you'd prefer something more fair and balanced?

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link

it is a biased remark.

in a newspaper? god forbid!

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope the nyt's webmaster made clear the article contained views -- or, in this case, verifiable facts -- that not everyone would agree with.

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Having taken an actual journalism class, one ought to know that it is expected that the NYT is better than that. Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here? Because I don't like taking too much space in a message board and I'm sorry about that.

I do think your notion that bias is acceptable in the NYT is, uh, unintelligent. Sorry. Newspapers and their power ought to be taken to task.

By the way I am not intimidated by you and you are forcing me to write too much on this thread. It is sad you don't respect your own readership by explaining your own curious views.

x-post to I am legend, this is not clear, the author writes as if he is objective.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure if ur trolling or not

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe eat an apple, go for a walk. i dunno what timezone you're in.

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link


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