JEANS

whatever, denim pedant
these jeans are heinous

we aren't so far from those. if the cycle of fashion repeats 70-80s move from slim hip-hugger flares to high waisted pleated tapered poufy jeans repeats, skinny jeans having almost finished their run surely means you'll see someone wearing those without irony any day now.

A lot of things come and go without ever breaking the "without irony" barrier. I'll be happy if these pants have their day among the tragically hip and then go away for another 15 years.

The girls are already wearing the shorts version of those jeans: high-waisted and pleated and possibly with cuffs, worn with oxford shoes of some kind probably mousy brown -- very "studenty". As soon as fall hits I'm sure the long versions will make the scene.

i am aware of fashion's cyclical nature, and i am aware that girls are wearing high waisted pleated shorts, BUT

* that doesn't change the fact that these pants are ugly as shit
* my inability to even consider wearing them means that i am not a candidate for shopping in the junior's section anymore

i probably shouldn't shop there anyway, and i don't really, because i don't really "shop" but you know what i mean

oh i love chambray pants, like those. so comfy too. great for airplane rides!

Many US companies began "vanity sizing" in the 80s, convincing people that they wore a smaller size than what the garment measures out to be (eg, a size 27" garment measures to a true 29"). Some brands (like Levi's) resisted this trend for over a decade until they saw their sales decrease because those brands "didn't fit" the consumer. European and Asian companies do not vanity size which may explain the variance.

― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:24 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

To learn more about vanity sizing, take a tape measure and your favorite jeans and measure the waist and compare to the stated size.

― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:30 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/dU/waistline-measurement-chart-for-men-090710-xlg.jpg

hahahaha whoa

also today i saw a very old (80 y.o.) woman mowing her lawn wearing pants similar to the ones i posted above
they were neither stylish nor flattering

ordered a pair of these yesterday:
http://www.misterfreedom.com/?p=1135

I'm officially in cord mode. yay, fall!

for LL, Shasta and Laurel;
http://www.hulu.com/watch/10333/saturday-night-live-mom-jeans

I'm always in cord mode.

same shoes, $77 price tag, comes in sizes S-M-L
STILL UGLY

http://static2.modcloth.com/productshots/0041/7780/13675-1.jpg

most appalling thing could be sizes S-M-L

Christ on a bolt of lightning, WHAT THE FUG are those? Small? SMALL?? The waist is like half the size of the hip measurement, how many people is THAT supposed to perfectly fit?

Dollars to doughnuts those are pinned in the back to make them perfectly fitted on the model. Will not work on anyone else in the world unless yr willing to go around with clothespins sticking out of your tuchus.

those pleats that point directly to her bunched up crotch are a great place to smuggle some raisinets into the movie theater amirite

lord what have you done to this thread.... T.T

want
http://s6.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/BDC4CFB0.jpg

Zimbabwean cotton yarn is dyed using the labor intensive, classic rope dyeing technique involving a series of dips into indigo vats followed by sun drying (dipped 19 times). While most jeans makers today use right-hand twill denim, KMW denim is made in a selvedge 13.5 oz. left-hand twill. KMW fabric is woven on pre WWII American built wooden shuttle looms.

steve shasta,

do companies still make regular rise jeans anymore?

yours,
dayo

sadly no, everything is either drop-crotch harem pants or incorporating empire-girdles.

have been wearing levi's 511s
http://images.asos.com/inv/s/15/95/525822/dripdry/image1xl.jpg

and levi's trouser cut
http://s8.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/A3F8469A.jpg

I want to buy some APC jeans but unfortunately nowhere sells them here so I can't try them on. this wouldn't ordinarily be an issue except... I recently bought some 32" waist zara jeans that fit nice however I picked up some 32" cos cords and though I can get them shut they're unbearably tight.

should I just go with the 32" in the APC knowing that I'll size down a bit as we come out of winter and they'll stretch out a bit?

wish there was a "waistline Vs. actual waistline" infographic which took in zara and cos though I suspect cos' trousers are true to size.

side question: are the uniqlo japan jeans decent? and is the japan slim fit similar to the APC new cures or new standards?

haha well how unbearable is 'unbearable'? apc tends to fit p true to size ime (i.e. less generous than probably zara) although i guess the cords might fit differently...

... i really cant answer this qn, sry :/

the zaras I had did seem a little 'bigger' than other brands (though I had pants and not jeans)

right now my only pair of jeans is a pair of uniqlo selvedge based on steve shasta's recs and I like them a lot

http://www.popsofa.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/light-mens-jeans.jpg

anyone have any tips for sealing in jean color? I bought these AE flares on ebay and while they're surprisingly bitchin in color and form they are a saturated dark wash and I find my hands blue after wearing them for an hour or two. I really don't want them to fade.

coz:
sounds like apc 32" will be comfortable, shouldn't be as unbearable as your Zara cords.
uniqlo denim are probably the best value jeans out there, in partic. if you are seeking japanese selvage denim.

ss:
you are describing "crocking" where the dye isn't set properly and causes bleedage. a quick rinse in (very) cold water should get most of the dye to bleed out but should not damage the richness of the denim. the key to keeping the dye set is to avoid washing/drying. neither cotton nor indigo are very colorfast so minimize the time in the wash/dryer to avoid fading.

actually found somewhere in town that does APC today and tried on the 32. were fine (but black) so going to cop some indigo online

w/ my last pair of colour-bleedy jeans i took the internet's advice and put them on a short cold wash, inside out, no detergent but half a cup of white vinegar, then hung them to dry indoors. it seemed to work - the colour's still dark and doesn't rub off on white bags any more.

measure the actual waist of a pair of jeans that fit correctly
APCs run two inches larger in the waist than tagged size, and can stretch another inch or two beyond that

so if your actual waist = 36" you probably want a 33 in APC

i really want snazzy new jeans

all the ones i tried on recently were ass-flattening, which is just so wrong

measure the actual waist of a pair of jeans that fit correctly
APCs run two inches larger in the waist than tagged size, and can stretch another inch or two beyond that

so if your actual waist = 36" you probably want a 33 in APC

― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, January 3, 2011 12:59 PM (2 hours ago)

ehhh, this is gray territory as everybody's idea of "fit" is not the same, some people enjoy an ultra skin tight girdle effect, others like to sag around their knees. APC use unsanforized denim that is "true to size" (ie, not ShrinkToFit), although there was a trend a few years ago to really undersize which would make for people squeezing into the smallest jeans possible, but that's a separate sport. I've owned about 10 pairs of APCs and they've all fit in the comfortable range of the size spectrum. YMMV.

My size 36 APC New Standards measured 38" unworn and stretched rapidly to where they were downright baggy (if I'd known more then, I would have gotten a 35). Online shop measurements generally back that up - add two inches to tagged size to get the unworn waist. (and the denim is sanforized)

That's why I figure matching the actual waist size of some comfortable jeans to the actual waist of some APCs minus an inch or two (so that it would ultimately stretch to equal the other jeans, since the APCs won't be constantly washed like most people's Gap/etc. jeans) is the safest route.

that is odd but i have to admit i haven't bought a pair of APCs in a very, very long time, i hope they aren't vanity sizing :-/

APC NSes at Context: http://www.contextclothing.com/item.php?id=6

"Context Expert Tip:
APC is Vanity Sized!"

sad, that was not the case back in "the day".?)
in other news that shop also sells Momotaro Jeans outside of Japan which is crazy to see! I got a chance to tour their factory in Kojima in 2001 (maybe 2003?), that is a pretty dope operation they have got going. Really amazing attention to quality.

I think Blue in Green in New York sells Momotaro too.

thanks SS! my mom seems to think salt will help. is this true?

i use salt for dyeing - afaik the salt only works to open up the fibers.

which is skinner: new cures or petit standards?

is rapha denim TTS

I am so fucking fed up with jeans. I just bought a pair that fit like a glove in the store and the first time after being washed but after a couple hours they're too loose and bagging out in places.

Also, was it Levis that would make you jeans in your exact proportions? How much is that. I think I'm about at that point. Do they still do that?

also lol

More than half of women (54 percent) try on at least 10 pairs of jeans to find one pair they would buy.

Maybe this is my problem. I hate clothes shopping and trying on clothes in particular. I don't have the patience.

you should by jeans that are too tight

that way when they loosen up they fit

I just wear whatever version of a Levi's low-rise skinny jean I can find in my size and in Short for not more than $60. Maybe 2% stretch or so certainly doesn't hurt.

Very grateful to whomever started cutting the asses of women's jeans higher than the bellies -- I need far less coverage in the front.