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Well then he should have said that then. I'll go start a Suri Cruise thread then

― Jimmy Mod: My theme is DEATH (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually listened to the latest podcast just to hear what he said, but it was from April 5 and no allusiosn of any kind.

― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Fucking Christ this makes me angry

If they let Hoberman go, too, they might as well burn it the fuck down

(Maybe there should be a Norman Mailer support thread, too)

― Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

8:04 PM, 18 Apr 06 The Xuxk, Xgau support thread deleted by strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dont be a douchebag, douchebag)
http://ilx.wh3rd.net/adminlog.php?board=2

uh, I just assumed someone has created a trollish thread. Did Jimmy create a sincere one? I think a "best wishes, we'll miss you" thread would be kind of appropriate, considering Chuck will likely see it, and Xgau was a (one time?) poster.

they better not touch Hoberman.

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I think that this deserves its own thread.
I also think I'm not the one to start it.

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i started it - new eds. say voice music section "too academic"?

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I noticed last week that the Dallas Observer is now re-running the previous week's movie reviews from the Voice, thus eliminating the only reason I bothered to pick it up.

― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

This is terrible news. I have disagreed sometimes with Christgau's opinions, but come on, this is lame.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Can anyone confirm Christgau is actually out at this point, or is this just speculation?

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Christgau isn't out.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Gawker just says that Christgau thinks he is about to get fired. Hopefully the union can take action on Eddy's behalf against New Times as they are doing for Ridgeway.

― curmudgeon (Steve K), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i wouldn't count on it to be honest.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah why would xxxcx want to get back on that horse now, the nag's dead

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

would they fuck with hoberman?

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 08:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes and no. I think they're picking off the weaker members of the herd, the high profile firings will come in the summer (though Ridgeway down already is shocking). Are the "tenured" senior writers/editors really making that much in pay or benefits? I don't know, I'm a concerned reader, not a contributor.

I just remembered Jerry Saltz once hit on my girlfriend. UNEMPLOYMENT IS A BITCH JERRY.

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe more to the point: why would they fuck with hoberman? what do they want the voice to be at the end of this? they seem to be getting rid of exactly the things that differentiate it from other publications...

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link

they seem to be getting rid of exactly the things that differentiate it from other publications

you're absolutely right, but the economies of scale of running 17 papers under one editorial staff make these nyc firings kind of a fait accompli. you can't syndicate a review of a film that won't screen in the smaller markets, so one assumes the editors will publish the lowest common denominator.

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link

you can't syndicate a review of a film that won't screen in the smaller markets, so one assumes the editors will publish the lowest common denominator.

True, but the film market is more important than the music one, so I'd assume you'll see fewer film syndicated reviews in the Voice for that very reason. They'll need and want to cover things in the Voice that will never screen in, say, Phoenix.

― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah word is born, things like the rivette retro simply son't be on *anywhere else in the world*, so there is a kind of safe-guard.

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

word is born, my friend. word is born indeed.

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

they slashed the Voice film budget by two-thirds, it's not as if they're all that hot for original film content there

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

they seem more reliant on staffers at the moment.

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22word+is+bond%22&btnG=Google+Search

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

The Voice has had some embarassing reviews over the last year. Either staffers or first-time freelancers or something. The review of The Devil's Rejects sticks out, because it was basically OMG THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ELECT GEORGE BUSH. A huge huge WTF.

― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Fucking great. Chuck's VV stuff was among the few things there that didn't make me ralph--to wit, I enjoyed it, and have found lotsa new neat stuff thanks to his efforts.

NT blows the chucks of Satan, and you can quote me.

― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

fwiw "more local investigative reporting" sounds like a good way for the paper to be headed, i mean it is the village voice ffs, not The Nation.

also, i never liked "shelter", couldn't believe it lasted as long as it did, and to my mind "press clips" was what it was because of cynthia cotts, who hasn't written it in years. the voice DOES need a shakeup, DESPERATELY. but firing people who wanted it shaken up in the first place, and who would have worked to make things better, just seems bizarre to me.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Eh, Jim Ledbetter >>>> Cotts

― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah, i forgot about him!! i liked cotts a lot, though.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

look at all these net geeks dick getting hard for this shit, go read NME or something instead. Go listen to block party or sonmething, dumb students.

― Anti geek, Thursday, 20 April 2006 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link

who is the best write out there? me. i keeps it pretentiousless.

― anti geek, Thursday, 20 April 2006 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22word+is+born%22&btnG=Search

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

status: hood

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link

the voice DOES need a shakeup, DESPERATELY. but firing people who wanted it shaken up in the first place, and who would have worked to make things better, just seems bizarre to me.

-- Tracey Hand (tracerhan...), April 19th, 2006 5:16 PM.

I was just thinking that this morning - Voice is far from perfect and could use some well-placed kicks, but the Stalin routine is overkill.

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 20 April 2006 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, yeah, what's happening isn't really a shakeup, is it? Its an attempt to impose the standardized template that NT uses for all its papers.

xxxpost Ha, I remember that awful Devil's Rejects rev, urgrghh!!!

― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I really loved "Shelter," especially in its later years when Schlesinger's writing was getting more and more playful & she was messing with the borders of the column's format. It never got stale for me.

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

if it's true about chuck, it's very sad. didn't always agree, but he knew his shit, and knew how to know his shit (if that makes any sense).

plus, he was a supporter of legendary chicago power-popsters GREEN. can't go wrong there.

― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...

the axing goes national - they cut loose the Dallas Observer's music editor last week.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 4 September 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

And Xgau is x-ed out.

― js (honestengine), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

See the separate threads on Christgau's firings

x-post

"To better clarify, I was fired. I was not fired by anyone in this office in Dallas, but by a corporate office outside of Dallas. The reason on my goodbye letter says “you are being terminated today as a result of the performance issues we have discussed with you on multiple occasions.” I will better dispute both the “performance issues” and the “multiple occasions” in the near future..." -former Dallas Observer music editor Sam Machkovech from his myspace blog

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

If he doesn't know better than to publish that on his blog, then you have to wonder what he did to get fired.

― save the robot (save the robot), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, after all we must be sure to never do anything that would piss off our new times overlords in the future

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"performance issues" makes it sound like he had wobbly gaskets

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"you are being terminated because your Level-2 cache is insufficient for today's processor-intensive applications"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

watch me shoot down my future career prospects while drunk: new times media can suck my cock until i cum blood

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:45 (seventeen years ago) link

they should be flattered, that's a sweet offer

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If he doesn't know better than to publish that on his blog, then you have to wonder what he did to get fired.
Eh? What's wrong with posting that on your blog after you've been axed? Clearly New Times ain't hiring you for anything, and there's no competition in town.

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW, my ltter from my Phoenix canning said simply "due to performance." And I never verbally got a concrete reason. And I got a promise of a reference and a month's severance. Not much of a firing, right? Doesn't mean much. Personally, I now think they did me a favor letting me go in light of the direction the company has gone, the tanking of music journalism this year and a lot of personal shit in my life that would have never gotten resolved had I continued as a municipal music editor.

― O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope this doesn't mean you have more time to post on ILM.

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

nah, using about the same amount of time ... :-)

― O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe the New Media folks read ILM and fire everyone who's ever posted on here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

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