worst rap song to top the Billboard Hot 100 in the '90s

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i voted for "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" and explained why upthread -- seriously, defend that song

some dude, Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the rapping is good
the beat is a classic
puffy's record was basically the late 90s mixtape-as-album & this makes sense w/in the album concept

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

mase, will you stop smokin lala?

puff, why try imma thug imma die high

bernard goony (The Reverend), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

luv the use of "rock with you" drumrolls :D

bernard goony (The Reverend), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

if you're really defending this song on the grounds that "the beat is a classic" then you're basically saying every freestyle over a classic beat is a great song in its own right

some dude, Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean maybe you're just tired of kneejerk Puffy hating but tell me it's not the worst Bad Boy track on this list

some dude, Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

worse than "i'll be missing you?!!?! wtf

bernard goony (The Reverend), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Lauryn Hill - "Doo Wop (That Thing)" 1
Notorious BIG ft Puff Daddy and Mase - "Mo Money Mo Problems" 1

fuck these trolls w/ an axe

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i actually think "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" is a pretty lousy track—such a lazy beatjack and admittedly-nimble-yet-lethargic-sounding raps. But its miles from being the worst songs on this list

hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

like he and mase kind of sucked all the life out of that beat

hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i will say its an odd choice for a single. but it works w/in the album for me so w/e

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

it def works on the album

hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 29 August 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it def worked as a single too, on the radio between like "da dip" and "return of the mack"

bernard goony (The Reverend), Monday, 30 August 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

I remember being very bored by "Tha Crossroads."

― clemenza, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hope you are referring to Britney Spears or Ralph Maccio movie

― San Te, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:07 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ralph Macchio as bored teenage girl who takes road trip to learn Britney songs played by aging blues hero Dan Aykroyd.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

With a cameo by Robert Johnson, playing a mysterious character named Cream.

― clemenza, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"I'm Not a Girl (You're The Best Around)" by 98 Degrees.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 February 2018 06:31 (six years ago) link

me: people should respect different musical opinions!

also me: i know this is a 7 year old poll but whoever voted for Lauryn Hill deserves to be excommunicated from this board

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 22 February 2018 06:37 (six years ago) link

lol otm

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 February 2018 06:39 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

"Baby Got Back" wouldn't be a consideration for me if voting in the 90s, but lord, in 2019, this song grates like a motherfucker.

Some of it is what "wite people at karaoke night" did to it, which is obv unfair, but it doesn't feel like a song that was meant to be banged (bung?) forever, whereas most of my favs on this list still sound good to me

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 01:26 (four years ago) link

the lack of master p / no limit options here is appalling.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 20 December 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

did they have a lot of Hot 100 #1s?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

No Arrested Development, no "Pray"...

... (Eazy), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

votes for Bone thugs, lauryn, pm dawn, & mo money mo problems is just insane

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

Seriously. Crossroads is one of those rare hip hop songs that everyone i know likes.

I blasted it in a hotel room during a party and my friends and i sang it so loud that a bachelorette party called the Front Desk on us three times

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

No one ever believes me when I say this but when Snow's pre-"Informer" single "Lonely Monday Morning" premiered on hip-hop radio (before anyone knew what he looked like) every hip hop head I knew who heard it (OK, four people) agreed it was an instant classic

young and innocent days

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 20 December 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

informer was popular in jamaica and an all-star remix of a single from his second album was the best selling song in jamaica in 1995

xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

gotta say it will be difficult for me to vote for anything other than "Crank Dat (Soulja Boy)"

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:29 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean, I don't like 50 that much either but dude never actively ruined children

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:29 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

If you are not the board's resident Bill Cosby sympathizer and you haven't been at largely black events where a DJ will put this on and all of the kids 10 and under get up and do the dance to the song, combined with dude doing shit like "Throw Some D's On It" and (the admittedly funny and only song of his I can stand) "Yah Trick Yah", you will probably not get the level of fundamental antipathy I have for pretty much everything Soulja Boy represents or how that's been embraced as something awesome and fun by black America.

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:36 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

like, there are people who say stupid shit who are obviously making entertainment for adults/young adults who have developed some level of critical thinking combined with life experience, whereas Soulja Boy is just flat-out telling little kids to be annoying ignorant little shits

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:37 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

fuck that, fuck him, hope he dies

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:38 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

messily

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:45 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

Obv things were different 9 years ago

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

No Arrested Development
― ... (Eazy), Friday, December 20, 2019 10:35 AM (three days ago

AS IT SHOULD BE WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 23 December 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

Take him to another thread

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

it really is disgusting and stomach turning how in the late-90s/early-00s we had all these "going straight to THE WILD WILD WEST" or "Here come the MEN IN BLACK" or poor Destiny Child "CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that?" hit singles that are basically ads that hold up like shit two years later.

it's like if Survivor was all "ROCKY! ROCK ROCK ROCK! ROCK ROCK ROCKYYYYYYY!" or "Theme From A Summer Place" was like how Jasper sang it on the Simpsons

― markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:28 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

whiney gets so much shit for this post later on in this thread, but I think he’s right! that goddamn “CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that” line is so gratuitous that it totally ruins the song for me.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 23 December 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

master p/no limit's strength was always on the album charts! tho some singles sold really well they usually didn't have enough radio play to reach the top 10 even

dyl, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

it ain't my fault

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link

I sort of half heartedly defended “I’ll be missing you” upthread, and I would like to retract that. I actually just love that song

k3vin k., Monday, 23 December 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

thread revived. oh how it was revived.

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

"i'll be missing you" isn't that bad at all idk why ppl act like it's one of the most abhorrent creations in all of history

dyl, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

death trax don't usually bring the lols but

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

confession: i knew "i'll be missing you" before i knew "every breath you take"

dyl, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

(whether it's an accurate take or not) it seemed extremely gauche for the guy who inserted himself into Biggie songs to then monetize Biggie's death. and then to do that while ripping off (there's sampling, and then there's ripping off) a very well-known hit, his seemingly only contribution being his limp, emotionless vocals...was a bridge to far for most.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

It’s kind of sad with you around

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

it was a charity single whose substantial revenues (it was turning a profit after about 500k sold, and it went on to do >3 million) were funneled into a trust fund for biggie's children... and literally the majority of sean combs's hits during that era sampled-and/or-ripped-off other songs that had already been well known hits in their own right. i guess including the song on his own album was questionable

dyl, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

"all his other hit songs were shameless ripoffs too" doesn't help him here lol

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link

Maybe instead he coulda sampled Player and done "BIGGIE COME BACK"

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link

Puffy is the worst thing that ever happened to hip hop

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

Puffy is the worst thing that ever happened to hip hop

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 23, 2019 5:49 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he made last train to paris...

k3vin k., Monday, 23 December 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

Yea that shit was dope

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

Also Press Play was cool

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

Any voter not selecting "Informer" is just kidding themselves.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link


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