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Do you know this for sure, or is this just speculation?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 23 August 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka do you have a physical form or are you some kind of discarnate entity? you seem to imply you were at least once human.

we are still *nominally* human, physically located in time and space.

what we speak for, however, is not human in the current sense of that word.

rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka is just the mouthpiece, one of many, for the collective.

rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

moderator, Monday, 23 August 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you know this for sure, or is this just speculation?

― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, August 23, 2010 1:22 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

Our position is airtight and any logical being would come to the same conclusions. The problem is that those with the cognitive capacity to agree have been blinded by the false consciousness induced by religion, capitalism, and bio-centrism.

This is the reason we often speak in metaphors. For instance, a sentence such as "but there is a twist in this story. we believe that with the evolution of consciousness, a tear in the sleeping cosmos was created, so to speak. out of the darkness came a burning light" is not meant to literally imply that consciousness is itself a mystical rupture in the fabric of reality, just that it was an important milestone in our evolution that was different from what existed before (but still wholly material). But to state it it in dryer language does not catch the attention of the reader whose mind is cluttered by years of mystical, romantic garbage.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, which is the better Husker Du album?

Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka do you agree with the assertions made in my thread

bump this thread every time a connection is made between the life we lead now and the life we led 10000-10000000 years ago

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, which is the better Husker Du album?

Though we no longer listen to rock music, in this instance we would choose Metal Circus, because it does not have a mystical title like Zen Arcade.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

dayo, we indeed condemn the current form of "evolutionary psychology", for it merely re-affirms patriarchal capitalistic values. but any political, social, or psychological system that does not take evolutionary science into account is doomed.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

but we agree that it is foolhardy to reduce modern human behavior to the hunter-gatherer lifestyle, for mankind is still evolving and it is evolving in our direction.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, practically speaking, what difference is there between you and a beehive? would I be correct in asserting that you are merely a beehive capable of complex thought?

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, at what time did you become self-aware?

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link

we are vastly different than a beehive, despite superficial similarities. a beehive is comprised of a genetically related population of bees, each acting individually according to instinct, but with naturally selected behaviours that end up benefitting the hive. the point being that we are a unit comprised of rational individuals and our behavior is not based on collective instinct but collective reason. also, in our society there is no queen.

the collective whose voice on this board is called banaka, formed in 1996. the mouthpiece banaka was assumed into our collective a few months ago.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Banaka, do you get sick of people comparing your collective to the Borg collective on Star Trek: The Next Generation?

not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

"the point being that we are a unit comprised of rational individuals and our behavior is not based on collective instinct but collective reason. "

to clarify, though the collective is divided into units (modularity and specialization have important uses), at all times these units are serving the collective.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, if you played starcraft, which race would you choose?

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, could your collective created a burrito so big that even all the units of your collective couldn't finish eating it in one day?

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Banaka, do you get sick of people comparing your collective to the Borg collective on Star Trek: The Next Generation?

Not at all. The Borg, while obviously fictional and portrayed rather negatively in the Star Trek universe, are very vivid illustrations of the *kind* of society we wish to build. A key difference is the Borg's desire to assimilate all sentient life in the universe. We aim merely to assume all sentient *human* life (except for those who oppose, who shall perish.)

Our other qualm with the portrayal of the Borg is the addition of the Borg Queen in Star Trek First Contact. A true collective would not need a queen of any sort, except perhaps as a mouthpiece or representative to interact with non-collective beings. Which is essentially what "Banaka" is (and what Picard was turned into when he became "Locutus".)

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www2.unipr.it/~pieri/Momus_Tintin2.jpg

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, could your collective created a burrito so big that even all the units of your collective couldn't finish eating it in one day?

― dayo, Friday, August 27, 2010 2:38 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

well, despite being a collective, we are still (currently) limited by the physical laws of time and space.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

for the record, we have never played starcraft.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

the collective whose voice on this board is called banaka, formed in 1996. the mouthpiece banaka was assumed into our collective a few months ago.

Do you feel odd using an immature human as your mouthpiece, rather than an older and more mature one?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 27 August 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link

the young of the nation need a voice that speaks their language, after all

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

we mean this literally, by the way. most of the collective is based outside of north america.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, what is your preferred clan in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri?

Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link

bakana, how is "surrender" not the best song?

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

boxers or briefs?

teeeheeeheeheeeheeeheeeheehee!

teeeeeheeheeheeeheehee!

Z S, Friday, 27 August 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

similarly, is the studio or Budokan live recording the better version?

Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

we do not play very many computer games.

"surrender" is a wonderful song when it comes from the mouths of our enemies, prefaced by "we"

boxers.

it is our policy to prefer studio versions to live versions.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Daddy or chips?

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Friday, 27 August 2010 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, do you feel a kinship with the Portuguese Man o' War? Are you capable of feeling "kinship" at all?

sharkless dick stick (Abbbottt), Friday, 27 August 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent question. A Portuguese Man O' War is certainly closer to what we are than a beehive, and in that sense we do hold a certain respect for it as one of our antecedents. In a collective where all the parts serve the whole, "kinship" is somewhat of an obsolete concept.

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, does a collective entity have sexual desire at all?

sharkless dick stick (Abbbottt), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

we abhor sex

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Banaka, do you feel kinship with Tommy Wiseau?

Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

do not mention that name around us

rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

How many SB's do you have?

Dan I., Monday, 30 August 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

borrrrrrrrrring

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 August 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

omg the Portuguese Man o' War is awesome. I thought it was just some kind of jellyfish.

What do you have against sex, Banaka? Surely a collective entity like you should be all over the expression of free-floating internal desire.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 30 August 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

hey guys. just letting ya know i've renounced my beliefs since my breakdown the other night (i started drinking again.)

i was having a hard time after a breakup and a mugging (by an old college friend no less) several months ago.

one day several months ago i answered a "help wanted ad" for a "political advocacy group". after several days spent questioning my political and spiritual beliefs it became apparent that this was not a normal job interview, but recruitment into some kind of cult.

i still don't know the group's name, or if they even have one (i had personal contact with only 3 members). the intense, highly unorthodox interview process went on for almost a week. eventually the group's propaganda started to make "sense" and everything "clicked". i'd never really been very political before this, but suddenly a great sense of urgency had filled my being. i felt an intense desire to take my new understanding and inflict it on others. i have to admit, the thrill of militancy is quite intoxicating.

i was asked by my handler to spread propaganda over the internet to spread the group's message, and i was only glad to take up the task.

afterward i only had sporadic contact with the group until last week there was a message instructing me to stop, with no further elaboration. i was puzzled, and considered following the order, as a good collectivist agent should. but ignored them. the feeling of superiority i was feeling was too much to give up. i hadn't felt this alive in months. but i was also hurting inside. the Code said for us to shun needless pleasure, to shun distractions. but i couldn't do it. suppressing one's emotions is hard, hard work. i started drinking again sunday night. i lost control of myself and all my feelings poured out. i won't drink anymore, but i'm glad i did that night.

i still don't know why they asked me to stop. i have not heard from them since, and frankly i don't want to. i want to be myself again.

let's start fresh (banaka), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i genuinely liked the old banaka btw, you can go back to that and we'll pretend this didn't happen

max skim (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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acoleuthic, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka is a childhood nickname! i've had a lifelong battle with halitosis, and my sister would always put her fingers in a cross (as if to ward off evil) and yell "binaca! binaca!" at me.

let's start fresh (banaka), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i genuinely liked the old banaka btw, you can go back to that and we'll pretend this didn't happen

― max skim (k3vin k.), Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

i will still answer questions about my former beliefs if you like. but i will be doing it as myself. not as the mouthpiece of a cult.

let's start fresh (banaka), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

hey guys. just letting ya know i've renounced my beliefs since my breakdown the other night (i started drinking again.)

*reads post*

Please don't take this the wrong way, but have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness? This sounds less like an actual occurrence and more like the result of a psychotic episode.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

um

max skim (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

U guys are being trolled so hard.

YOUNG POLLY GERNO'S (Trayce), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

borrrrrrrrrrrring!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTPQVOWCiU

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

amended

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/thumbsdown.jpg

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

irl lols @ "barefootin"

mavis bacon (crüt), Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

onimo, that chart is amazing!!

Aimless, Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i52.tinypic.com/105aaae.jpg

what are these for? are the special underwear

i'm gonna be straight with y'all, my name is banaka jones (Z S), Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The blue one in the upper right appears to be covered with charms against the evil eye.

Aimless, Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link

but what is the purpose of the jock strap? that is my question, for banaka. banaka, what is the purpose of the jock strap?

i'm gonna be straight with y'all, my name is banaka jones (Z S), Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka's silence speaks volumes

harbl madness (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link

None of these are appealing to us in any aesthetic, philosophical, political, or practical way.

banaka, Thursday, 23 September 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Starting with the top left image:

1. Romanticization of Nature is to be avoided.
2. Thumbs down. The celebration of feudalism, monarchies or other obsolete modes of existence is despicable.
3. This is the only one we approve of in any way, but it is still not desirable.
4. We do not condone bandanas, rubber gloves are acceptable however. Very acceptable.
5. See number 1.
6. Frilly, decorative, useless.
7. Our distaste for this religious imagery is well understood by now.
8. A failed attempt at eliciting a visceral "gag" response. Reactionary.
9. No.

banaka, Thursday, 23 September 2010 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link

What are the ways in which the 'aesthetic' is not a comfort of the kind which you oppose diametrically in your vision of the future?

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link

also do you take milk and sugar in ur tea y/n

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, where is it appropriate to find beauty?

beej (crüt), Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Beauty is in that which serves the needs of the collective and establishment of the New Society. All of our value judgments reflect this.

banaka, Thursday, 23 September 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, beauty in the efficiency of one undisputed truth. 's a good one, that one.

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka, Should ILX Have an "I Love Football" Board?

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

oh shit, real talk.

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

banaka:

favorite death metal album of the last 5 years?

*lets go* (gr8080), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

When the banaka collective needs to urinate or defecate, how is it accomplished?

Aimless, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

how does banaka feel about robert williams' death

http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/01/0125robot-kills-worker/

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 30 August 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

banaka, do you feel that there is any human work, be it technical, literary, or artistic that I may be able to study or experience that will make me understand your ways better?

I'm starting to lose interest in humanity.

mh, Friday, 14 December 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

requesting banaka's critique of this, thx.

http://io9.com/5973551/this-classical-music-was-created-by-a-supercomputer-in-less-than-a-second

arby's, Monday, 7 January 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

http://lareviewofbooks.org/article.php?type=&id=1581&fulltext=1

As robotic technology develops and insinuates itself further into everyday life, what counts as a robot is becoming more slippery, drifting further away from the C-3POs and the Twikis and the other box-of-bolts robot buddies of science fiction. Should we see robots simply as useful machines? Is a garage-door opener a robot? Do they have to be self-propelling? (A Roomba seems far more robotic than a laptop, but a laptop is far more useful.) Must a robot think “for itself,” as if it actually has a “self”? Do they even have to be machines at all? Are RFID sensors robots? Are networks? Do I become a robot when I use my smartphone? When some asshole puts on Google Glass and looks at me on the street, do we both become robots?

j., Thursday, 18 April 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

banaka, will you ever post in a WDYLL thread?
― dyao, Monday, August 23, 2010 8:42 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who says we haven't
― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, August 23, 2010 8:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

j/k
― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, August 23, 2010 8:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Neanderthal, Monday, 16 January 2017 23:41 (seven years ago) link

false flag op

mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Banaka we need u

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link

* yall

j., Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

Their home planet needed them

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link


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