banaka are fielding questions

the goals of self-reproduction, expansion and the dominance of one's own kind over others are the essence of the organic. to pursue these goals is to celebrate the organic and its ends. what do you offer that the organic paradigm does not?

― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Monday, August 23, 2010 5:33 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to clarify a bit. in this vast, pitiless, perfectly mechanical universe, only the organic shares your goals. thus, if a dichotomy is to be drawn between the organic and the mechanical, you're on the wrong side. the mechanical = process, equilibrium, eventual entropy.

― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Monday, August 23, 2010 5:36 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

excellent questions.

in our quest to achieve the New Society, we have done some adjustments to our rhetoric in order to reach out (some might call this a "dumbing down"). while coercion is by no means anathema to us, it is in our best interest to first attempt to persuade others to join us.

as a consequence of this rhetorical adjustment, some of our goals, when translated into ordinary language, can seem at first seem contradictory.

let us address your questions point by point:

the goals of self-reproduction, expansion and the dominance of one's own kind over others are the essence of the organic.

yes, this is true. and it is true that we aim to expand and dominate, as does all organic life, from the lowliest bacterium to the most majestic flamingo. but organic life is inherently flawed. it too is subject to the laws of "process, equilibrium, eventual entropy."

we acknowledge that in the history of the cosmos, the development of life was the first step towards an undoing of the natural order. what we are against IS the natural order. what we wish to undo is organic life's tendency toward self-destruction. invariably any unit of life, be it a cancer cell or a population of organisms, if left unchecked tends towards mindlessly perpetuating itself, at the expense of all in its path. in nature there are many examples of co-operation and mutually beneficial adaptations between organisms that keep these processes in check. however, these are still blind natural processes, subject to decay.

but there is a twist in this story. we believe that with the evolution of consciousness, a tear in the sleeping cosmos was created, so to speak. out of the darkness came a burning light.

for the first time, organic matter could *intentionally* manipulate and and dominate its environment. tool use, language, agriculture, society.

the MACHINE is the ultimate example of this process.

we aim to complete the process. to master nature, merge with the machine and discover immortality.

we believe that in order to do this, we must:

*replace outmoded societal conventions that while useful in previous eras are completely unnecessary for our new society. these include nuclear families, gender, capitalism, and all previous forms of government.

*cultivate the mental art of repression. conscious suppression of undesirable emotions and thoughts and the promotion of desirable emotions and thoughts is crucial to achieve the proper mindset. in the future, this won't be necessary because of mental implants and conditioning.

*embrace technology and science to their fullest.

*alter and augment the human body. to a degree this has already started. there are more people with modified bodies than ever before, albeit mostly for cosmetic reasons. but it is a step.

*have patience, and lay the groundwork.

it is in our best interest to first attempt to persuade others to join us.

How does one become banaka?

if we detect a genuine interest, we contact you.

it might come in a way you least suspect, however.

banaka, will you ever post in a WDYLL thread?

who says we haven't

j/k

banaka do you have a physical form or are you some kind of discarnate entity? you seem to imply you were at least once human.

cough cough *momusprank* cough cough

Do you know this for sure, or is this just speculation?

banaka do you have a physical form or are you some kind of discarnate entity? you seem to imply you were at least once human.

we are still *nominally* human, physically located in time and space.

what we speak for, however, is not human in the current sense of that word.

banaka is just the mouthpiece, one of many, for the collective.

lol

Do you know this for sure, or is this just speculation?

― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, August 23, 2010 1:22 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

Our position is airtight and any logical being would come to the same conclusions. The problem is that those with the cognitive capacity to agree have been blinded by the false consciousness induced by religion, capitalism, and bio-centrism.

This is the reason we often speak in metaphors. For instance, a sentence such as "but there is a twist in this story. we believe that with the evolution of consciousness, a tear in the sleeping cosmos was created, so to speak. out of the darkness came a burning light" is not meant to literally imply that consciousness is itself a mystical rupture in the fabric of reality, just that it was an important milestone in our evolution that was different from what existed before (but still wholly material). But to state it it in dryer language does not catch the attention of the reader whose mind is cluttered by years of mystical, romantic garbage.

banaka, which is the better Husker Du album?

banaka do you agree with the assertions made in my thread

bump this thread every time a connection is made between the life we lead now and the life we led 10000-10000000 years ago

banaka, which is the better Husker Du album?

Though we no longer listen to rock music, in this instance we would choose Metal Circus, because it does not have a mystical title like Zen Arcade.

dayo, we indeed condemn the current form of "evolutionary psychology", for it merely re-affirms patriarchal capitalistic values. but any political, social, or psychological system that does not take evolutionary science into account is doomed.

but we agree that it is foolhardy to reduce modern human behavior to the hunter-gatherer lifestyle, for mankind is still evolving and it is evolving in our direction.

banaka, practically speaking, what difference is there between you and a beehive? would I be correct in asserting that you are merely a beehive capable of complex thought?

banaka, at what time did you become self-aware?

we are vastly different than a beehive, despite superficial similarities. a beehive is comprised of a genetically related population of bees, each acting individually according to instinct, but with naturally selected behaviours that end up benefitting the hive. the point being that we are a unit comprised of rational individuals and our behavior is not based on collective instinct but collective reason. also, in our society there is no queen.

the collective whose voice on this board is called banaka, formed in 1996. the mouthpiece banaka was assumed into our collective a few months ago.

Banaka, do you get sick of people comparing your collective to the Borg collective on Star Trek: The Next Generation?

"the point being that we are a unit comprised of rational individuals and our behavior is not based on collective instinct but collective reason. "

to clarify, though the collective is divided into units (modularity and specialization have important uses), at all times these units are serving the collective.

banaka, if you played starcraft, which race would you choose?

banaka, could your collective created a burrito so big that even all the units of your collective couldn't finish eating it in one day?

Banaka, do you get sick of people comparing your collective to the Borg collective on Star Trek: The Next Generation?

Not at all. The Borg, while obviously fictional and portrayed rather negatively in the Star Trek universe, are very vivid illustrations of the *kind* of society we wish to build. A key difference is the Borg's desire to assimilate all sentient life in the universe. We aim merely to assume all sentient *human* life (except for those who oppose, who shall perish.)

Our other qualm with the portrayal of the Borg is the addition of the Borg Queen in Star Trek First Contact. A true collective would not need a queen of any sort, except perhaps as a mouthpiece or representative to interact with non-collective beings. Which is essentially what "Banaka" is (and what Picard was turned into when he became "Locutus".)

http://www2.unipr.it/~pieri/Momus_Tintin2.jpg

banaka, could your collective created a burrito so big that even all the units of your collective couldn't finish eating it in one day?

― dayo, Friday, August 27, 2010 2:38 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

well, despite being a collective, we are still (currently) limited by the physical laws of time and space.

for the record, we have never played starcraft.

the collective whose voice on this board is called banaka, formed in 1996. the mouthpiece banaka was assumed into our collective a few months ago.

Do you feel odd using an immature human as your mouthpiece, rather than an older and more mature one?

the young of the nation need a voice that speaks their language, after all

we mean this literally, by the way. most of the collective is based outside of north america.

banaka, what is your preferred clan in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri?

bakana, how is "surrender" not the best song?

boxers or briefs?

teeeheeeheeheeeheeeheeeheehee!

teeeeeheeheeheeeheehee!

similarly, is the studio or Budokan live recording the better version?

we do not play very many computer games.

"surrender" is a wonderful song when it comes from the mouths of our enemies, prefaced by "we"

boxers.

it is our policy to prefer studio versions to live versions.

Daddy or chips?

banaka, do you feel a kinship with the Portuguese Man o' War? Are you capable of feeling "kinship" at all?

Excellent question. A Portuguese Man O' War is certainly closer to what we are than a beehive, and in that sense we do hold a certain respect for it as one of our antecedents. In a collective where all the parts serve the whole, "kinship" is somewhat of an obsolete concept.

banaka, does a collective entity have sexual desire at all?

we abhor sex

Banaka, do you feel kinship with Tommy Wiseau?

do not mention that name around us

How many SB's do you have?

borrrrrrrrrring

omg the Portuguese Man o' War is awesome. I thought it was just some kind of jellyfish.

What do you have against sex, Banaka? Surely a collective entity like you should be all over the expression of free-floating internal desire.

hey guys. just letting ya know i've renounced my beliefs since my breakdown the other night (i started drinking again.)

i was having a hard time after a breakup and a mugging (by an old college friend no less) several months ago.

one day several months ago i answered a "help wanted ad" for a "political advocacy group". after several days spent questioning my political and spiritual beliefs it became apparent that this was not a normal job interview, but recruitment into some kind of cult.

i still don't know the group's name, or if they even have one (i had personal contact with only 3 members). the intense, highly unorthodox interview process went on for almost a week. eventually the group's propaganda started to make "sense" and everything "clicked". i'd never really been very political before this, but suddenly a great sense of urgency had filled my being. i felt an intense desire to take my new understanding and inflict it on others. i have to admit, the thrill of militancy is quite intoxicating.

i was asked by my handler to spread propaganda over the internet to spread the group's message, and i was only glad to take up the task.

afterward i only had sporadic contact with the group until last week there was a message instructing me to stop, with no further elaboration. i was puzzled, and considered following the order, as a good collectivist agent should. but ignored them. the feeling of superiority i was feeling was too much to give up. i hadn't felt this alive in months. but i was also hurting inside. the Code said for us to shun needless pleasure, to shun distractions. but i couldn't do it. suppressing one's emotions is hard, hard work. i started drinking again sunday night. i lost control of myself and all my feelings poured out. i won't drink anymore, but i'm glad i did that night.

i still don't know why they asked me to stop. i have not heard from them since, and frankly i don't want to. i want to be myself again.

i genuinely liked the old banaka btw, you can go back to that and we'll pretend this didn't happen

aero if it transpires that banaka is a sock of yrs i'll be seriously disappointed

x-post

yes, but with more blood

d-mac I don't sock I am barefootin all day

fkn hippies

The Kariera are a tribe of Australian Aboriginal people who have a complex set of rules that determine who can marry whom. The tribe consists of four clans: Banaka, Karimera, Burung, and Palyeri.

The marriage rules are as follows:
A Banaka can only marry a Burung.
A Karimera can only marry a Palyeri.

The Kariera rules for children.
The children of a male Banaka and a female Burung are Palyeri.
The children of a male Burung and a female Banaka are Karimera.
The children of a male Karimera and a female Palyeri are Burung.
The children of a male Palyeri and a female Karimera are Banaka.

my pal yeri says his dad died in a gulag, kinda sad

http://i51.tinypic.com/rckdhu.jpg

does the pope fuck kids?

aerosmith not only are you making me motherfucking die here but I am pleased to report your advice of gobi manchurian was a screamer and I am now regarded as a semi-competent cook

irl lols @ "barefootin"

onimo, that chart is amazing!!

http://i52.tinypic.com/105aaae.jpg

what are these for? are the special underwear

The blue one in the upper right appears to be covered with charms against the evil eye.

but what is the purpose of the jock strap? that is my question, for banaka. banaka, what is the purpose of the jock strap?

banaka's silence speaks volumes

None of these are appealing to us in any aesthetic, philosophical, political, or practical way.

Starting with the top left image:

1. Romanticization of Nature is to be avoided.
2. Thumbs down. The celebration of feudalism, monarchies or other obsolete modes of existence is despicable.
3. This is the only one we approve of in any way, but it is still not desirable.
4. We do not condone bandanas, rubber gloves are acceptable however. Very acceptable.
5. See number 1.
6. Frilly, decorative, useless.
7. Our distaste for this religious imagery is well understood by now.
8. A failed attempt at eliciting a visceral "gag" response. Reactionary.
9. No.

What are the ways in which the 'aesthetic' is not a comfort of the kind which you oppose diametrically in your vision of the future?

also do you take milk and sugar in ur tea y/n

banaka, where is it appropriate to find beauty?

Beauty is in that which serves the needs of the collective and establishment of the New Society. All of our value judgments reflect this.

Ah, beauty in the efficiency of one undisputed truth. 's a good one, that one.

banaka, Should ILX Have an "I Love Football" Board?

oh shit, real talk.

banaka:

favorite death metal album of the last 5 years?

When the banaka collective needs to urinate or defecate, how is it accomplished?

http://dixiedining.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/walle_sm.jpg

how does banaka feel about robert williams' death

http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/01/0125robot-kills-worker/

banaka, do you feel that there is any human work, be it technical, literary, or artistic that I may be able to study or experience that will make me understand your ways better?

I'm starting to lose interest in humanity.

requesting banaka's critique of this, thx.

http://io9.com/5973551/this-classical-music-was-created-by-a-supercomputer-in-less-than-a-second

http://lareviewofbooks.org/article.php?type=&id=1581&fulltext=1

As robotic technology develops and insinuates itself further into everyday life, what counts as a robot is becoming more slippery, drifting further away from the C-3POs and the Twikis and the other box-of-bolts robot buddies of science fiction. Should we see robots simply as useful machines? Is a garage-door opener a robot? Do they have to be self-propelling? (A Roomba seems far more robotic than a laptop, but a laptop is far more useful.) Must a robot think “for itself,” as if it actually has a “self”? Do they even have to be machines at all? Are RFID sensors robots? Are networks? Do I become a robot when I use my smartphone? When some asshole puts on Google Glass and looks at me on the street, do we both become robots?

banaka, will you ever post in a WDYLL thread?
― dyao, Monday, August 23, 2010 8:42 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who says we haven't
― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, August 23, 2010 8:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

j/k
― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, August 23, 2010 8:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

false flag op

Banaka we need u

* yall

Their home planet needed them